Lupe Fiasco=Future G.O.A.T.??

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usmarin3;1378539 said:
Because what's the fucking point of rapping to rap, if you're not saying something that makes sense and tell a story then what's the point. Anyone can throw out some double entandres, wordplay, metaphors,etc (Lil Wayne, Cassidy, Jada, etc), but if you can't be a lyricist in a song writing format the you're essentially worthless and a mixtape rapper. Lyricism isn't only words, it's conveying a message, emotions, painting a picture, and weaving it all together using poetic tools.

...ur a fuckin idiot...

Lupe does all of those things...its just not relevant to this particular discussion

American Terrorist doesnt make sense? Intruder Alert doesn't make sense? The Cool doesnt tell a story? The Coolest doesn't accomplish all of the things u mentioned AND have good song writing format?

U obviously haven't listened to enough of his shit to form an intelligent opinion...

U just can't fathom an artist not goin multiplat and still makin excellent music

And most of u oldheads can't rap ur head around the fact that a rapper post-90's can have all-time elite level skills
 
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Treize117;1383494 said:
...ur a fuckin idiot...

Lupe does all of those things...its just not relevant to this particular discussion

American Terrorist doesnt make sense? Intruder Alert doesn't make sense? The Cool doesnt tell a story? The Coolest doesn't accomplish all of the things u mentioned AND have good song writing format?

U obviously haven't listened to enough of his shit to form an intelligent opinion...

U just can't fathom an artist not goin multiplat and still makin excellent music

And most of u oldheads can't rap ur head around the fact that a rapper post-90's can have all-time elite level skills

dude is thee biggests Jay-Z stan that this board ever seen, notice how everybody naming other elite lyrical MC's besides Jay-Z simple ass

SMH @ him going on MTV Made to be made into a Camel Carter, shits disgusting
 
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NothingButTheTruth;1383187 said:
It was an observation I made based on this topic, and it has proven to be true throughout my personal experiences. Lyricism is nothing more then opinion aka it's subjective to the listener.

I know people who think Lupe got out-shined by B.O.B on that one song, or Wale got out-shined by JCole on beautiful bliss. Stuff like that is blasphemy to me, but these guys swear by it, so the only conclusion to come up with is: lyricism is subjective.

....Personally, Lupe is in my top 5-10, so I can agree with the T/S statement. Other emcees I put right up there with him (or above him) are Mos Def, Nas, Canibus, Common, Pharoahe Monch, Ghostface, MF Doom, Black Thought etc. and in my opinion all of those rappers can hold their own with (or surpass) Lupe when it comes to lyricism.

I used to think J. Cole destroyed Wale until I listened again and Wale straight murdered the song. Cole's delivery was way better but Wale got him lyrically. But I can co-sign this post.
 
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Lupe Fiasco 1 of thee best lyricist out 2day but Lupe go over niggaz head so ur gonna get some hate on this post. Dumb it Down Says it all

[video=youtube;q1Et1siZhTk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1Et1siZhTk[/video]
 
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lupe is a nice mc....but he dosnt take his craft that serious.....either that he struggles to come up with material.....or maybe he's not as deep as he would like to belive......
 
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PimpMVP;1377096 said:
Lol at people saying Em

rapping fast doesn't mean you're lyrical
you're fucking dumb. so, all eminem does is rap fast? and lupe is better than canibus? how old is your stupid ass?
 
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lupe is by far the most amazing lyricist ever

cant believe ppl in here, this thread wasnt a quesiton..it was a statement.

Lupe is the best lyricist EVER even based off of his 5-6 years in the game and 5 projects/freestyles/features
 
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Canibus is better i dont care

I don't listen to murray alot i know this track so i could be wrong on him maybe you'll know.[video=youtube;EQcSoE1bt_A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQcSoE1bt_A[/video]
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Yungin T. Jeezie;1380367 said:
& thats another Jay-Z dont have, that nigga dont have any emotions nor soul in his music.

You gotta be out your mind, but then again your post dont surprise me. You probably got a Dynasty sign symbol for a brain, on how much you save & come to the rescue on every Jay post

LOL at your bird brain ass highlighting one thing in all that i stated and ignoring the reason. Cant be life, Soon youll understand, You must love me, etc > any robot song in Lupes catalog, smh this nigga rapping about being a robot and food. Like i said, a modern day GZA.
 
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usmarin3;1383871 said:
LOL at your bird brain ass highlighting one thing in all that i stated and ignoring the reason. Cant be life, Soon youll understand, You must love me, etc > any robot song in Lupes catalog, smh this nigga rapping about being a robot and food. Like i said, a modern day GZA.

Sorry dude I like Jay but when they got paired on "Pressure" ft Jay-Z. I think Lupe got his ass. He spit some shit in '06 thats happening right now.

1:27 "They say oil and water don't mix, now they all down in the beach washing down the fish" ......... BP oil spill. Lupe a genius on that MIC deserve 2 be with the best.

[video=youtube;eUTvAJiXwFM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUTvAJiXwFM[/video]
 
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t. webb;1383519 said:
I used to think J. Cole destroyed Wale until I listened again and Wale straight murdered the song. Cole's delivery was way better but Wale got him lyrically. But I can co-sign this post.

naw champ.....cole def killed wale on his shit
 
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Lupe is better OVERALL then bis but not a better lyricist IMO

Lupe is better than Canibus. Lupe's music has real meaning behind it and is conscious, something positive that kids can listen to. Canibus is a generic battle rap braggart with no real meaning behind what he says other than he can rap better than you.[/QUOTE]
 
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missjcapri;1383964 said:
naw champ.....cole def killed wale on his shit

Nah Ms. Capri, I thought the same thing....Cole had some dope as quotables and his delivery was crazy nice but Wale got him...his delivery was just ehh to me...
 
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[Nas]
Damn! Look how muh-fuckers use a nigga
Just use me for whatever the fuck they want
I don't get to say shit
Just grab me, just do what the fuck they want
Sell me, throw me away
Niggaz just don't give a fuck about a nigga like me right?
Like I'm a f... I'm a gun, shit
It's like I'm a motherfuckin gun
I can't believe this shit....
Word up.. (word up..)

I seen some cold nights and bloody days
They grab and me bullets spray
They use me wrong so I sing this song 'til this day
My body is cold steel for real
I was made to kill, that's why they keep me concealed
Under car seats they sneak me in clubs
Been in the hands of mad thugs
They feed me when they load me with mad slugs
Seventeen precisely, one in my head
They call me Desert Eagle, semi-auto with lead
I'm seven inches four pounds, been through so many towns
Ohio to Little Rock to Canarsie, livin harshly
Beat up and battered, they pull me out
I watch as niggaz scattered, makin me kill
But what I feel it never mattered
When I'm empty I'm quiet, findin myself fiendin to be fired
A broken safety, niggaz place me in shelves
under beds, so I beg for my next owner to be a thoroughbred
Keep me full up with hollow heads

Chorus: Nas (repeat 2X)

How you like me now? I go blaow
It's that shit that moves crowds makin every ghetto foul
I might have took your first child
Scarred your life, crippled your style
I gave you power
I made you buck wild

[Nas]
Always I'm in some shit, my abdomen is the clip
The barrel is my dick, uncircumcised
Pull my skin back and cock me, I bust off when they unlock me
Results of what happens to niggaz shock me
I see niggaz bleedin runnin from me in fear, stunningly tears
fall down the eyes of these so-called tough guys, for years
I've been used in robberies, givin niggaz heart to follow me
Placin peoples in graves, funerals made cause I was sprayed
I was laid in a shelf, with a grenade
Met a wrecked-up tech with numbers on his chest that say
Five-two-oh-nine-three-eight-five and zero
Had a serial defaced, hopin one day, police would place
where he came from, a name or some sort of person to claim him
Tired of murderin, made him wanna be a plain gun
But yo I had some other plans, like the next time the beef is on
I make myself jam right in my owner's hand

Chorus

[Nas]
Yo, weeks went by and I'm surprised
Still stuck in the shelf with all the things that an outlaw hides
Besides me it's bullets, two vests and then a nine
There's a grenade in a box, and that tech that kept cryin
Cause he ain't been cleaned in a year, he's rusty as clear
He's bout to fall to pieces, cause of his murder career
Yo, I can hear somebody comin in, open the shelf
His eyes bubblin, he said, "It was on"
I felt his palm troubled him shakin
Somebody stomped him out, his dome was achin
He placed me on his waist, the moment I've been waitin
My creation was for blacks to kill blacks
It's gats like me that accidentally, go off, makin niggaz memories
But this time, it's done intentionally
He walked me outside, saw this cat
Cocked me back, said, "Remember me?"
He pulled the trigger but I held on, it felt wrong
Knowing niggaz is waiting in hell for 'im
He squeezed harder, I didn't budge, sick of the blood
Sick of the thugs, sick of wrath of the, next man's grudge
What the other kid did was pull out, no doubt
A newer me in better shape, before he lit out, he lead the chase
My owner fell to the floor, his wig split so fast
I didn't know he was hit, it's over with
Heard mad niggaz screamin, niggaz runnin, cops is comin
Now I'm happy, until I felt somebody else grab me
Damn!
 
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Lupe has NEVER written a song as I gave you Power, NEVER

RayLY;1384007 said:
[video=youtube;eUwJ8WcZ6RY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUwJ8WcZ6RY[/video]

[Nas]

Damn! Look how muh-fuckers use a nigga

Just use me for whatever the fuck they want

I don't get to say shit

Just grab me, just do what the fuck they want

Sell me, throw me away

Niggaz just don't give a fuck about a nigga like me right?

Like I'm a f... I'm a gun, shit

It's like I'm a motherfuckin gun

I can't believe this shit....

Word up.. (word up..)

I seen some cold nights and bloody days

They grab and me bullets spray

They use me wrong so I sing this song 'til this day

My body is cold steel for real

I was made to kill, that's why they keep me concealed

Under car seats they sneak me in clubs

Been in the hands of mad thugs

They feed me when they load me with mad slugs

Seventeen precisely, one in my head

They call me Desert Eagle, semi-auto with lead

I'm seven inches four pounds, been through so many towns

Ohio to Little Rock to Canarsie, livin harshly

Beat up and battered, they pull me out

I watch as niggaz scattered, makin me kill

But what I feel it never mattered

When I'm empty I'm quiet, findin myself fiendin to be fired

A broken safety, niggaz place me in shelves

under beds, so I beg for my next owner to be a thoroughbred

Keep me full up with hollow heads

Chorus: Nas (repeat 2X)

How you like me now? I go blaow

It's that shit that moves crowds makin every ghetto foul

I might have took your first child

Scarred your life, crippled your style

I gave you power

I made you buck wild

[Nas]

Always I'm in some shit, my abdomen is the clip

The barrel is my dick, uncircumcised

Pull my skin back and cock me, I bust off when they unlock me

Results of what happens to niggaz shock me

I see niggaz bleedin runnin from me in fear, stunningly tears

fall down the eyes of these so-called tough guys, for years

I've been used in robberies, givin niggaz heart to follow me

Placin peoples in graves, funerals made cause I was sprayed

I was laid in a shelf, with a grenade

Met a wrecked-up tech with numbers on his chest that say

Five-two-oh-nine-three-eight-five and zero

Had a serial defaced, hopin one day, police would place

where he came from, a name or some sort of person to claim him

Tired of murderin, made him wanna be a plain gun

But yo I had some other plans, like the next time the beef is on

I make myself jam right in my owner's hand

Chorus

[Nas]

Yo, weeks went by and I'm surprised

Still stuck in the shelf with all the things that an outlaw hides

Besides me it's bullets, two vests and then a nine

There's a grenade in a box, and that tech that kept cryin

Cause he ain't been cleaned in a year, he's rusty as clear

He's bout to fall to pieces, cause of his murder career

Yo, I can hear somebody comin in, open the shelf

His eyes bubblin, he said, "It was on"

I felt his palm troubled him shakin

Somebody stomped him out, his dome was achin

He placed me on his waist, the moment I've been waitin

My creation was for blacks to kill blacks

It's gats like me that accidentally, go off, makin niggaz memories

But this time, it's done intentionally

He walked me outside, saw this cat

Cocked me back, said, "Remember me?"

He pulled the trigger but I held on, it felt wrong

Knowing niggaz is waiting in hell for 'im

He squeezed harder, I didn't budge, sick of the blood

Sick of the thugs, sick of wrath of the, next man's grudge

What the other kid did was pull out, no doubt

A newer me in better shape, before he lit out, he lead the chase

My owner fell to the floor, his wig split so fast

I didn't know he was hit, it's over with

Heard mad niggaz screamin, niggaz runnin, cops is comin

Now I'm happy, until I felt somebody else grab me

Damn!
 
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[Intro]
Yeah..
I want all my niggas to come journey with me
My name is Nas, and the year is 1973
Beginning of me, therefore I could see
Through my belly button window, who I am..

[Verse 1]
I existed in a womb, just like an abyss
Came from behind the sun, my hands balled in a fist
Punching on my moms stomach, kicking on her cervix
Twitching cause I'm nervous, thought my intended purpose
Was to be born to reign, not in scorn or vain
But to take on a name, that my pops chose for me
Bloodstream full of indo, developing eyes
Nine month process, infant size
A prophet in his early stage, his mother in the early 30s
Was married to pops wishin what she carried would drop
I'm not worthy to come from a women so pure, Ann Jones
Flesh of her flesh, blood of her blood, her blood and bones
Hearin prayers, she axin for my good health
That I become a man and learn to make a way for myself
Nervous she was, and her paranoia got in my blood
Mixed with marijuana from my daddy's genes
Lotta screams I'm hearin, it's crazy
Both parents is scrappin, I'm not even a baby
A miscarriage can happen

"I shot my way out my mom dukes" x4 (*scratched*)

[Verse 2]
Yo
They must wanna keep me, cause 4 months pass, I'm still alive
Guess I got what they call a Ill Will to survive
When I look hard the lights is killin my eyes
I know when moms is layin down, I get bored, start to get live
Move side to side, hear loud music and vibe
All black babies are born with rhythm, that's no lie
Solar energize, mineralize food flowin through my mothers tube
I'm covered in this thick layer of goo
Month two was the least most comfortable
My umbilical cord choking me
But month 3 was closer, see
Thats when pops took moms to see the doc at the clinic
But I was saved, he changed his mind in the last minute
Watchin 'em yell, heard my moms voice well
Feared fist fights, so terrified when we fell
While they broke up furniture and smashed plates on the wall
I wondered if I am born, will I be safe at all
This place they call the world though my view was so large
Couldn't wait to get out, and grow up and take charge
Month 5, Month 6 went by, hopin I'm born in July
But the Lord already figured out a date and time
Septemeber 14th, '73
Get ready world, doctors in the front waitin for me
Arms open cause they know when I drop, alot of shit's gon' stop
See how the goverment will start re-training cops
Month 9, I'm a week over due, the labor induced
Pops told my moms "Push and take deep breaths too
Stay calm", holdin her arm, I'm trying to hold on
Surgical gloves touching my scalp, my head pops out
Everything is blurry, my first breath screams out
Tears pouring down my pops face he's so proud
Wantin to hold me, but I was so bloody
They washed me off and he said "At least that nigga aint ugly!"
Placed me in his arms snuggly, laid me on my mother
Finally, I got to see who held me in her body
She love me, and yo I plan to overthrow the devil
Y'all about to see this world in trouble
Motherfuckers..

(*Baby screams*)
 
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Listen up gangstas and honeys with ya hair done

Pull up a chair hon' and put it in the air son

Dog, whatever they call you, god, just listen

I spit a story backwards, it starts at the ending

The bullet goes back in the gun

The bullet hole's closin this chest of a nigga

Now he back to square one

Screamin, "Shoot don't please"

I put my fifth back on my hip

It's like a VCR rewindin a hit

He put his hands back on his bitch

My caravan doors open up

I jumped back in the van and closed it shut

Goin reverse, slowly prepared

My nigga Jungle utters out somethin crazy like, "Go he there"

Sittin in back of this chair, we hittin the roach

The smoke goes back in the blunt, the blunt gets bigger in growth

Jungle unrolls it, put his weed back in the jar

The blunt turns back into a cigar

We listen to Stevie, it sounded like heavy metal fans

Spinnin records backwards of AC/DC

I give my niggas dap, jump out the van back first

Back upstairs, took off the black shirt

I'm in the crib with the phone to my ear

Listen up so y'all can figure out the poem real clear

The voice on the phone was like, "Outside right we"

So with my mouth wide, holdin my heat

Bullets I had plenty to squeeze, plenty for ya

'Cause Jungle said, "Block your on enemies the"

Hung up the phone, then the phone rang

I'm laid in the bed thinkin 'bout this pretty young thing

Who left, she came back, her clothes just fell to the rug

She fell to my bed and gave me a hug

I told her, "No hell"

She talkin 'bout, "Me kiss"

Bobbed her head then spit the nut back in my dick

Started suckin with no hands, a whole lotta spit

Then got up and put her bra back on her tits

Got fully dressed and told me, "Stressed really I'm"

Picked up her Gucci bag and left her nigga behind

Walkin through the door, she rang the bell twice

I vomited Vodka back in my glass with juice and ice

The clock went back from three, to two, to one

And that's about the time the story begun

That's when I first heard the voicemail on the cell

It said, "Son we found that nigga we gotta kill"



Ay yo son, ay yo son, you hear me, you hear me?

Listen man, this dude right on the block, right now, man

I found him, right now, I see him right now!

Let's kill him)



"Yo, this Nas, leave it. Peace"
 
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