Lupe Fiasco=Future G.O.A.T.??

[lamontbdc]

i like lupe but one good album and one average album gets him somewhere in my top 30 or 40 i guess he still has time to put in more work and he can flow but he's not where ner my top 10 at the moment

 

[Dick Shitman]

No offense but I think that's just an excuse people like to use when they just really lack the comprehension to understand what Lupe says. Being unfamiliar with concepts, themes, ideas and the like would be enough to turn anyone away from an artist's music.

none taken, i comprehend what he's saying and i havent been turned away. i like listening to him

 

[Dick Shitman]

peep the Fahrenheit 1/15 series and The Food & Liquor Leak , which pretty much helped spawn the backstory to the concept of The Cool album..

will do

lester burnham= GOAT

 

[tri3w]

Lupe Is a Legend in the making I believe, But i dont Seem Him having the GOAT status yet..........Yes he may Have a 2 potential Classics under his belt (Yea he Does, if ya dont see that ya Niggas is trippin), and arguably might be the best out mainstream Wise (Give me a Better Name besides Jay, NaS Ra,) but u have to Wait coup[le of uyrs to see Influcnce...........I Guarantee though, rappers will be saying, he was my favroite rapper back in the Day

 

[tri3w]

No offense but I think that's just an excuse people like to use when they just really lack the comprehension to understand what Lupe says. Being unfamiliar with concepts, themes, ideas and the like would be enough to turn anyone away from an artist's music.

yea................Niggas be sayin that Cuz they Dont get what he sayin..........

 

[usmarin3]

Lupe Is a Legend in the making I believe, But i dont Seem Him having the GOAT status yet..........Yes he may Have a 2 potential Classics under his belt (Yea he Does, if ya dont see that ya Niggas is trippin), and arguably might be the best out mainstream Wise (Give me a Better Name besides Jay, NaS Ra,) but u have to Wait coup[le of uyrs to see Influcnce...........I Guarantee though, rappers will be saying, he was my favroite rapper back in the Day

Kanye > Lupe

Ye will go down as the best rapper of his generation, he has managed to master what Lupe can't or haven't yet. Critical acclaim with mainstream success, without comprimising who he is. Lupe is a modern day GZA imo!

 

[tri3w]

Kanye > Lupe

Ye will go down as the best rapper of his generation, he has managed to master what Lupe can't or haven't yet. Critical acclaim with mainstream success, without comprimising who he is. Lupe is a modern day GZA imo!

ur trippin............We r goin about Content homie, not Sales..........And Wats Worng with that??? GZA is a legend

 

[usmarin3]

ur trippin............We r goin about Content homie, not Sales..........And Wats Worng with that??? GZA is a legend

legend no doubt but limited when it comes to range

 

[tri3w]

legend no doubt but limited when it comes to range

but he is still a legend though............and u still compared Lupe to him.......

 

[Punisher__]

People are caught up on this mainstream success idea, as if it defines true artistry.

Truth is, being successful on the pop charts has NEVER been a measurement of how GOOD an artist is. It's merely used to by fans of artist who actually do cater to top 40 radio, and is a product of marketing and promotion.

 

[usmarin3]

People are caught up on this mainstream success idea, as if it defines true artistry.

Truth is, being successful on the pop charts has NEVER been a measurement of how GOOD an artist is. It's merely used to by fans of artist who actually do cater to top 40 radio, and is a product of marketing and promotion.

You cannot deny impact no matter how much you try. Why the fuck do you think these niggas sign record deals, make videos, tour,etc; for the love of the artform only. Success matters, Pacs,Biggies,Nas,Jay,NWA,Outkast,etc mainstream success is the reason why they are well known today. If that wasn't the case then no one should have a top 5 or a goat list because there are unkown rappers out there who are great and undiscovered.

You go to places in Africa and UK, they know Pacs song word for word and can't speaka drop of english. You think they know some no name underground nigga.

 

[Punisher__]

You cannot deny impact no matter how much you try. Why the fuck do you think these niggas sign record deals, make videos, tour,etc; for the love of the artform only. Success matters, Pacs,Biggies,Nas,Jay,NWA,Outkast,etc mainstream success is the reason why they are well known today. If that wasn't the case then no one should have a top 5 or a goat list because there are unkown rappers out there who are great and undiscovered.

You go to places in Africa and UK, they know Pacs song word for word and can't speaka drop of english. You think they know some no name underground nigga.

People like myself are not caught up on mainstream, top 40 success because we know how fickle mainstream audiences can be and how backwards they can be. And I think that's a poor cop out.

The same people you are advocating so hard for are the same people who gave MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice diamond albums, two albums that were poorly received by critics, mind you. And it's these same people who would be inclined to NOT purchase a critically acclaimed, highly lauded album from a well-renowned artist, but purchase something from a poorly received artist because that's who the said artist is CATERING to.

Look at all the artists who are dominating the pop charts today...and look at who isn't. It doesn't necessarily make one artist more impactful than the other because one chooses to cater to mainstream and the other one doesn't. You can't argue that sales = impact, without arguing that lack of sales = lack of impact. They go hand in hand, and NEITHER one is right.

 

[ItzGravitation]

nowhere

Lupe said it best when he said he's not great

 

[usmarin3]

People like myself are not caught up on mainstream, top 40 success because we know how fickle mainstream audiences can be and how backwards they can be. And I think that's a poor cop out.

The same people you are advocating so hard for are the same people who gave MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice diamond albums, two albums that were poorly received by critics, mind you. And it's these same people who would be inclined to NOT purchase a critically acclaimed, highly lauded album from a well-renowned artist, but purchase something from a poorly received artist because that's who the said artist is CATERING to.

Look at all the artists who are dominating the pop charts today...and look at who isn't. It doesn't necessarily make one artist more impactful than the other because one chooses to cater to mainstream and the other one doesn't. You can't argue that sales = impact, without arguing that lack of sales = lack of impact. They go hand in hand, and NEITHER one is right.

OH really, and the underground is any better. Where were you niggas at for the last Mos Def, Wu, Murs,etc albums that didn't sell shit, underground fans are some of the most fickle ass niggas.

I love how you niggas alway point out the bad extremes and fail to see the fact that these classic albums sold alot.

All eyez on me - 7 X platinum

Ready to die - 3 X platinum

Life After - 10 X platinum

Illmatic - platinum

Stillmatic - 2 x platinum

Reasonable Doubt - platinum

Blueprint - 2 x platinum

Southerncadillac...... - platium

Aquemini - 2 x platinum

Low end theory - platinum

Midnight Marauder - platinum

Chronic - 3 x platinum

Doggystyle - 4 times platinum

etc

I could go on and on forver, most of the classic hiphop albums have sold and made a great impact.

As for artist today, last time i check Nas,Jay,Kanye,Em and a few others are the only ones who consistently sell. Yall are acting like these one hit wonders are selling albums or making classic albums.

 

[Punisher__]

OH really, and the underground is any better. Where were you niggas at for the last Mos Def, Wu, Murs,etc albums that didn't sell shit, underground fans are some of the most fickle ass niggas.

I love how you niggas alway point out the bad extremes and fail to see the fact that these classic albums sold alot.

All eyez on me - 7 X platinum

Ready to die - 3 X platinum

Life After - 10 X platinum

Illmatic - platinum

Stillmatic - 2 x platinum

Reasonable Doubt - platinum

Blueprint - 2 x platinum

Southerncadillac...... - platium

Aquemini - 2 x platinum

Low end theory - platinum

Midnight Marauder - platinum

Chronic - 3 x platinum

Doggystyle - 4 times platinum

etc

I could go on and on forver, most of the classic hiphop albums have sold and made a great impact.

As for artist today, last time i check Nas,Jay,Kanye,Em and a few others are the only ones who consistently sell. Yall are acting like these one hit wonders are selling albums or making classic albums.

No one said mainstream audiences don't ever get it right. It's just that they don't get it right all the time. And it's that fickleness and lack of consistency that make me not take them seriously.

 

[tri3w]

OH really, and the underground is any better. Where were you niggas at for the last Mos Def, Wu, Murs,etc albums that didn't sell shit, underground fans are some of the most fickle ass niggas.

I love how you niggas alway point out the bad extremes and fail to see the fact that these classic albums sold alot.

All eyez on me - 7 X platinum

Ready to die - 3 X platinum

Life After - 10 X platinum

Illmatic - platinum

Stillmatic - 2 x platinum

Reasonable Doubt - platinum

Blueprint - 2 x platinum

Southerncadillac...... - platium

Aquemini - 2 x platinum

Low end theory - platinum

Midnight Marauder - platinum

Chronic - 3 x platinum

Doggystyle - 4 times platinum

etc

I could go on and on forver, most of the classic hiphop albums have sold and made a great impact.

As for artist today, last time i check Nas,Jay,Kanye,Em and a few others are the only ones who consistently sell. Yall are acting like these one hit wonders are selling albums or making classic albums.

Some albums took almost a Decade to go platinum homie................Sales and impact is not the samething..........

 

[usmarin3]

They all went atleast gold initially

 

[tri3w]

They all went atleast gold initially

nope not even that...............illmatic opened up with only 63 k...........Reasonable DOubt had some Low numbers too.....Like i stated b4, ur equating Sales with impact............Some Classic albums Dont sell alot............rthe impact is Seeing in a later peroid of time

 

[Idiopathic Joker]

Its hard to put him in any top ten because of all the wackness in hip hop, as soon as someone who is remotely lyrical comes around, he gains a bunch of followers and people put that person on a pedestal. He needs someone else in the mainstream to be compared to, maybe a few people. Thats how you separate the greats

you make a interesting point Joker, your always insightful

 

[ItzGravitation]

where he say that?

link me to this.

something along the lines of God is good/great

i'm drawing a blank but he's said it in several songs

dude said no one's great but God