LOL.. Lupe Fiasco / Azalea Banks/ Kid Cudi Go At It On Twitter over Kendrick's Comments

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Azreella or whatever her name is will beef with anyone on twitter because she is desperate to sell records and not flop. I suspect she isn't very genuine.
 
Like Water;7703408 said:
S2J;7703373 said:
Like Water;7703230 said:
S2J;7702938 said:
Like Water;7702681 said:
S2J;7702492 said:
ROZAYTABERNACLE;7702475 said:
S2J;7702454 said:
Also, they had that ngga Lupe on tape talkin bout movin weight. If they wanted, they could have easily RICO'd his ass.

Why is that relevant-the hustle game, and ex d boys, are always surrounded by non profit orgs, community outreach, etc. Im not sayin he laundering money, but im just sayin he has reason for me to doubt the authenticity or motive of his activism. In other words, he's not what he appears to be imo

man the muthafucka was on tv cryin about the chi-town crime shit, I don't think he's inauthentic about it.

No doubt, but that doesnt negate what im sayin. Probly adds to it. Keep him in the hood where he can he the brighest bulb there and the savior and he's good. Pull him out of that and he's a fraud. He speaks as if---like Cudi very accurately said---that him as a rapper is a gift and he's needed to break it down for evrrybody

Super s/n, he reminds me of deion sanders if you're familiar with his charter school Prime Prep. They had him on tape sayin 'if i dont get paid aint gon be no school'. There are certain personality types that want things to be better, but they want it to he bc of them, their way, and if not they find a way to be unhappy or bytch how somethin aint right.

Man, you goin extra hard over there, ain't you g? Lol. You could've stopped after you said you didn't care for dude like 10 posts ago. Now, however, you're coming across like a vindictive broad; letting her disdain for someone override the ability to think logically, and instead arguing with emotion, uninformed opinions and half-truths.

Ain't they teach you how to debate at college, school boy? 's not a good a look for a man. Cut it out bruh.

I'd hope you could seperate me saying ' i dont like him' from the facts i bring to the table. If not, cool.

But i see cats co-signed sayin im 'uninformed'

Are yall denying that this ever happened??:

Chicago Police Lt. Robert Grapenthien testified that during their wiretap investigation of Charles Patton’s cell phone, investigators heard Patton on March 25, 2003, set up a drug sale with Jerry Warren. Warren, who was convicted for his role in the case in October, set up a meeting at Hyde Park, an area under police surveillance.

Patton was also heard making March 25 Amtrak train reservations for himself and Fiasco the day prior, the Tribune reported. Although nine other people were charged with the Pattons, court records show that one person was acquitted in the case, while the others either pled guilty or were convicted. If convicted, the Pattons could face 15 to 60 years in prison, according to prosecutors.

Chilly got 44.

Also,

During the course of the trial, it was revealed that there’s another tape in which Fiasco and Patton are heard discussing splitting up “whole yellow” and “whole red” ones. Lupe testified that they were referring to the mixing of music tracks, and that he didn’t have shit to do with any drug dealing, except when he used to rap about it.

Ok, so we can rationally conclude Lupe was movin weight. Dont even come at me w/ the it wasnt proven, why you tryin to convict a brotha, blah blah blah. Lemme tell you why this is relevant-Dude mentioned all the great orgs and non-profits Lupe runs. Im pointing out why that isnt the end all be all bc a lot of people doin completely contradictory things have non profits and community things. Also, its more info supporting Lupe isnt who he appears to be. Doesnt mean i think he's inauthentic about hi spain of dead chi teens, or his dsire to hel, etc. Juts means he aint some concious and righteous dude.

But i dont wanna digress...somebody said im uninformed like that shyt didnt actually happen. Like Lupe aint lucky to be free. Clearly, w/ the bolded above, he's lucky to be free.

Aren't we, as human beings, inherently contradictory? Based on that absolute truth, would it be unreasonable to say that he realized that he was lucky to make it out of that life and devote himself to the people?

If you're going to tear him down, you have to tear down MLK, Malcolm, Huey, Muhammad Ali, Pac, Nas, Mos Def, and the list goes on. Not putting Lu in the same category as those people per se, but all of them had problems and moments where their actions and words were contradictory.

You can't point your finger at one and conveniently leave out similar situations because they'd denounce your argument. We understand you don't like dude. Just leave it at that.

Lol No. I'm very aware of the connotations of the words people use. 'Leave it at that' implies i blindly just dont like him thus im attacking what he says/does. No. i dont like him because of what he says/does.

So there's no need to say 'leave it at that' as if i have a personal ax to grind that clouds my judgement. Everything he does and says (i.e. the kkk mask, him bein a dumb-smart ngga, contrarian, etc) leads to why 'i dont like him'.

Ok fam. You single out the very last statement of my rebuttal and only respond to that, thus ignoring everything else I wrote. Why is that? You know what? Don't even answer that. You and I know why.

Regardless, you're done here.

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Yea thats great.

So the malcolm x comment applies to all the people you listed. So its been adressed.

Also, oddly the very first thing i was about to say in this thread is these young guys today are no Pacs. So its no suprise you used him. Pac had a differnt type of intellect. A higer level. Lupe cant hold a torch to any of the past 'outspoken' rappers, let alone fuking Malcolm X, MLK, and Huey P Newton (lol are you serious). I was bein kind not to completely dismiss that reach but i see i need to spell it out: If for no other reason, bc of percentages. If they had 80% positive and intellectual thought/public words to 20% dumb ngga shyt, Lupe is more at a 30% intellect to 70% dumb clip. So dont paint with broad strokes. Its a disservice to the names you had to nerve to type. Also, fyi: when you begin statements with 'not to____, but____' you are doing exactly what you're claiming you're not.
 
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1CK1S;7703302 said:
N-ggas hate for Azealia really got these ppl trying to force a W for Lupe when in reality it's a huge L. Because it made her that much more relevant
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oh yeah. you didn't hear? azealia went platinum after all the people that read their tweets went and bought her album, she was on oprah, larry king, AND ellen!

fuck outta here man, beefin on twitter isn't gonna make anyone check out someone's music. if it did then deathrowzorrow would be on Mass Appeal Records and have a joint album with nas comin out just off his headset raps and twitter beefs.
 
Sion;7703952 said:
Looks to me like Azealia will do anything to get on the only way she thinks she knows how - by trying to troll rappers and stir controversy. The problem with this method is that in the longer term it doesn't bear fruit and you have to find other ways to evolve. Look at 50 Cent, people forgot that he was actually a dope artist after the sales slowed down the momentum chilled.

Always remember, the people that you shit on on your way up are the same people who will shit on you on your way down. She basically going at anyone who doesn't blatantly say "Fuck Iggy Azalea", FOH and fight your own battles. Lupe killed her. Before this I remember when A$AP Nast dropped dude pics of Azealia Banks and killed her ass SMMFH:

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LOLOLOLOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLL @ this shit, she had no rebuttals after taking this gallon of ether, she lucky Lupe didn't kill her with that shit. Azealia is that chicken head bitch that wanna bother you for no fucking reason cuz she has nothing better to do SMMFH.

Cosign but don't forget 50 actually consistently dropped quality mixtapes. He was on that beefin' for attention gimmick but backed that up with good material. This b*tch ain't doing none of that. Name me one memorable Azalia Banks track. 50 skits on them Murda Inc. disstracks > Azalia's discography up until now FOH.

 
Black_Samson;7704089 said:
Like Water;7703408 said:
S2J;7703373 said:
Like Water;7703230 said:
S2J;7702938 said:
Like Water;7702681 said:
S2J;7702492 said:
ROZAYTABERNACLE;7702475 said:
S2J;7702454 said:
Also, they had that ngga Lupe on tape talkin bout movin weight. If they wanted, they could have easily RICO'd his ass.

Why is that relevant-the hustle game, and ex d boys, are always surrounded by non profit orgs, community outreach, etc. Im not sayin he laundering money, but im just sayin he has reason for me to doubt the authenticity or motive of his activism. In other words, he's not what he appears to be imo

man the muthafucka was on tv cryin about the chi-town crime shit, I don't think he's inauthentic about it.

No doubt, but that doesnt negate what im sayin. Probly adds to it. Keep him in the hood where he can he the brighest bulb there and the savior and he's good. Pull him out of that and he's a fraud. He speaks as if---like Cudi very accurately said---that him as a rapper is a gift and he's needed to break it down for evrrybody

Super s/n, he reminds me of deion sanders if you're familiar with his charter school Prime Prep. They had him on tape sayin 'if i dont get paid aint gon be no school'. There are certain personality types that want things to be better, but they want it to he bc of them, their way, and if not they find a way to be unhappy or bytch how somethin aint right.

Man, you goin extra hard over there, ain't you g? Lol. You could've stopped after you said you didn't care for dude like 10 posts ago. Now, however, you're coming across like a vindictive broad; letting her disdain for someone override the ability to think logically, and instead arguing with emotion, uninformed opinions and half-truths.

Ain't they teach you how to debate at college, school boy? 's not a good a look for a man. Cut it out bruh.

I'd hope you could seperate me saying ' i dont like him' from the facts i bring to the table. If not, cool.

But i see cats co-signed sayin im 'uninformed'

Are yall denying that this ever happened??:

Chicago Police Lt. Robert Grapenthien testified that during their wiretap investigation of Charles Patton’s cell phone, investigators heard Patton on March 25, 2003, set up a drug sale with Jerry Warren. Warren, who was convicted for his role in the case in October, set up a meeting at Hyde Park, an area under police surveillance.

Patton was also heard making March 25 Amtrak train reservations for himself and Fiasco the day prior, the Tribune reported. Although nine other people were charged with the Pattons, court records show that one person was acquitted in the case, while the others either pled guilty or were convicted. If convicted, the Pattons could face 15 to 60 years in prison, according to prosecutors.

Chilly got 44.

Also,

During the course of the trial, it was revealed that there’s another tape in which Fiasco and Patton are heard discussing splitting up “whole yellow” and “whole red” ones. Lupe testified that they were referring to the mixing of music tracks, and that he didn’t have shit to do with any drug dealing, except when he used to rap about it.

Ok, so we can rationally conclude Lupe was movin weight. Dont even come at me w/ the it wasnt proven, why you tryin to convict a brotha, blah blah blah. Lemme tell you why this is relevant-Dude mentioned all the great orgs and non-profits Lupe runs. Im pointing out why that isnt the end all be all bc a lot of people doin completely contradictory things have non profits and community things. Also, its more info supporting Lupe isnt who he appears to be. Doesnt mean i think he's inauthentic about hi spain of dead chi teens, or his dsire to hel, etc. Juts means he aint some concious and righteous dude.

But i dont wanna digress...somebody said im uninformed like that shyt didnt actually happen. Like Lupe aint lucky to be free. Clearly, w/ the bolded above, he's lucky to be free.

Aren't we, as human beings, inherently contradictory? Based on that absolute truth, would it be unreasonable to say that he realized that he was lucky to make it out of that life and devote himself to the people?

If you're going to tear him down, you have to tear down MLK, Malcolm, Huey, Muhammad Ali, Pac, Nas, Mos Def, and the list goes on. Not putting Lu in the same category as those people per se, but all of them had problems and moments where their actions and words were contradictory.

You can't point your finger at one and conveniently leave out similar situations because they'd denounce your argument. We understand you don't like dude. Just leave it at that.

Lol No. I'm very aware of the connotations of the words people use. 'Leave it at that' implies i blindly just dont like him thus im attacking what he says/does. No. i dont like him because of what he says/does.

So there's no need to say 'leave it at that' as if i have a personal ax to grind that clouds my judgement. Everything he does and says (i.e. the kkk mask, him bein a dumb-smart ngga, contrarian, etc) leads to why 'i dont like him'.

Ok fam. You single out the very last statement of my rebuttal and only respond to that, thus ignoring everything else I wrote. Why is that? You know what? Don't even answer that. You and I know why.

Regardless, you're done here.

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Nigga debates like a single mother.

Black_Samson;7702734 said:
S2J;7702482 said:
Bene_Elohim;7701328 said:
I just wanted to come in here and say FUCK JAY Z & his camel jocking groupies. All of sudden y'all boxing experts and some you don't even post in the boxing thread. Y'all become experts in everything Jay Z does with ya Camel jocking college degrees. foh. that is all

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Ohhhh boy, the dweebs have arrived.

Yeea cause its so much more fun speculating and stanning, and then switching the topic or stripping shit out of context once youve been proven wrong..... right?

Thread needs the boxing geeks, cause you gay-z fans got this thread smelling of belly semen and skint knees.

I don't know if you're talking about me or the person I'm debating.

 
S2J;7702938 said:
Like Water;7702681 said:
S2J;7702492 said:
ROZAYTABERNACLE;7702475 said:
S2J;7702454 said:
Also, they had that ngga Lupe on tape talkin bout movin weight. If they wanted, they could have easily RICO'd his ass.

Why is that relevant-the hustle game, and ex d boys, are always surrounded by non profit orgs, community outreach, etc. Im not sayin he laundering money, but im just sayin he has reason for me to doubt the authenticity or motive of his activism. In other words, he's not what he appears to be imo

man the muthafucka was on tv cryin about the chi-town crime shit, I don't think he's inauthentic about it.

No doubt, but that doesnt negate what im sayin. Probly adds to it. Keep him in the hood where he can he the brighest bulb there and the savior and he's good. Pull him out of that and he's a fraud. He speaks as if---like Cudi very accurately said---that him as a rapper is a gift and he's needed to break it down for evrrybody

Super s/n, he reminds me of deion sanders if you're familiar with his charter school Prime Prep. They had him on tape sayin 'if i dont get paid aint gon be no school'. There are certain personality types that want things to be better, but they want it to he bc of them, their way, and if not they find a way to be unhappy or bytch how somethin aint right.

Man, you goin extra hard over there, ain't you g? Lol. You could've stopped after you said you didn't care for dude like 10 posts ago. Now, however, you're coming across like a vindictive broad; letting her disdain for someone override the ability to think logically, and instead arguing with emotion, uninformed opinions and half-truths.

Ain't they teach you how to debate at college, school boy? 's not a good a look for a man. Cut it out bruh.

I'd hope you could seperate me saying ' i dont like him' from the facts i bring to the table. If not, cool.

But i see cats co-signed sayin im 'uninformed'

Are yall denying that this ever happened??:

Chicago Police Lt. Robert Grapenthien testified that during their wiretap investigation of Charles Patton’s cell phone, investigators heard Patton on March 25, 2003, set up a drug sale with Jerry Warren. Warren, who was convicted for his role in the case in October, set up a meeting at Hyde Park, an area under police surveillance.

Patton was also heard making March 25 Amtrak train reservations for himself and Fiasco the day prior, the Tribune reported. Although nine other people were charged with the Pattons, court records show that one person was acquitted in the case, while the others either pled guilty or were convicted. If convicted, the Pattons could face 15 to 60 years in prison, according to prosecutors.

Chilly got 44.

Also,

During the course of the trial, it was revealed that there’s another tape in which Fiasco and Patton are heard discussing splitting up “whole yellow” and “whole red” ones. Lupe testified that they were referring to the mixing of music tracks, and that he didn’t have shit to do with any drug dealing, except when he used to rap about it.

Ok, so we can rationally conclude Lupe was movin weight. Dont even come at me w/ the it wasnt proven, why you tryin to convict a brotha, blah blah blah. Lemme tell you why this is relevant-Dude mentioned all the great orgs and non-profits Lupe runs. Im pointing out why that isnt the end all be all bc a lot of people doin completely contradictory things have non profits and community things. Also, its more info supporting Lupe isnt who he appears to be. Doesnt mean i think he's inauthentic about hi spain of dead chi teens, or his dsire to hel, etc. Juts means he aint some concious and righteous dude.

But i dont wanna digress...somebody said im uninformed like that shyt didnt actually happen. Like Lupe aint lucky to be free. Clearly, w/ the bolded above, he's lucky to be free.

You were called uninformed because you are questioning the authenticity of Lupe philanthropy. You don't have to dig up news reports, Lupe said in his music, interviews, and social media that he used to do dirt. But the thing about 'front' organizations is that they don't ever have any real impact. Ask the kids at Julian high school on the Southside of Chicago if Lupe has ever done anything for them. The answer is an emphatic yes.

It's one thing to muse about it. It's another to actually be there and see it for yourself.
 
soul rattler;7704387 said:
S2J;7702938 said:
Like Water;7702681 said:
S2J;7702492 said:
ROZAYTABERNACLE;7702475 said:
S2J;7702454 said:
Also, they had that ngga Lupe on tape talkin bout movin weight. If they wanted, they could have easily RICO'd his ass.

Why is that relevant-the hustle game, and ex d boys, are always surrounded by non profit orgs, community outreach, etc. Im not sayin he laundering money, but im just sayin he has reason for me to doubt the authenticity or motive of his activism. In other words, he's not what he appears to be imo

man the muthafucka was on tv cryin about the chi-town crime shit, I don't think he's inauthentic about it.

No doubt, but that doesnt negate what im sayin. Probly adds to it. Keep him in the hood where he can he the brighest bulb there and the savior and he's good. Pull him out of that and he's a fraud. He speaks as if---like Cudi very accurately said---that him as a rapper is a gift and he's needed to break it down for evrrybody

Super s/n, he reminds me of deion sanders if you're familiar with his charter school Prime Prep. They had him on tape sayin 'if i dont get paid aint gon be no school'. There are certain personality types that want things to be better, but they want it to he bc of them, their way, and if not they find a way to be unhappy or bytch how somethin aint right.

Man, you goin extra hard over there, ain't you g? Lol. You could've stopped after you said you didn't care for dude like 10 posts ago. Now, however, you're coming across like a vindictive broad; letting her disdain for someone override the ability to think logically, and instead arguing with emotion, uninformed opinions and half-truths.

Ain't they teach you how to debate at college, school boy? 's not a good a look for a man. Cut it out bruh.

I'd hope you could seperate me saying ' i dont like him' from the facts i bring to the table. If not, cool.

But i see cats co-signed sayin im 'uninformed'

Are yall denying that this ever happened??:

Chicago Police Lt. Robert Grapenthien testified that during their wiretap investigation of Charles Patton’s cell phone, investigators heard Patton on March 25, 2003, set up a drug sale with Jerry Warren. Warren, who was convicted for his role in the case in October, set up a meeting at Hyde Park, an area under police surveillance.

Patton was also heard making March 25 Amtrak train reservations for himself and Fiasco the day prior, the Tribune reported. Although nine other people were charged with the Pattons, court records show that one person was acquitted in the case, while the others either pled guilty or were convicted. If convicted, the Pattons could face 15 to 60 years in prison, according to prosecutors.

Chilly got 44.

Also,

During the course of the trial, it was revealed that there’s another tape in which Fiasco and Patton are heard discussing splitting up “whole yellow” and “whole red” ones. Lupe testified that they were referring to the mixing of music tracks, and that he didn’t have shit to do with any drug dealing, except when he used to rap about it.

Ok, so we can rationally conclude Lupe was movin weight. Dont even come at me w/ the it wasnt proven, why you tryin to convict a brotha, blah blah blah. Lemme tell you why this is relevant-Dude mentioned all the great orgs and non-profits Lupe runs. Im pointing out why that isnt the end all be all bc a lot of people doin completely contradictory things have non profits and community things. Also, its more info supporting Lupe isnt who he appears to be. Doesnt mean i think he's inauthentic about hi spain of dead chi teens, or his dsire to hel, etc. Juts means he aint some concious and righteous dude.

But i dont wanna digress...somebody said im uninformed like that shyt didnt actually happen. Like Lupe aint lucky to be free. Clearly, w/ the bolded above, he's lucky to be free.

You were called uninformed because you are questioning the authenticity of Lupe philanthropy. You don't have to dig up news reports, Lupe said in his music, interviews, and social media that he used to do dirt. But the thing about 'front' organizations is that they don't ever have any real impact. Ask the kids at Julian high school on the Southside of Chicago if Lupe has ever done anything for them. The answer is an emphatic yes.

It's one thing to muse about it. It's another to actually be there and see it for yourself.

I'll do this the easy way: his works do not excuse his consistent dumb ass comments, inflated view of himself,and patronizing view of black america. The end
 
Sion;7703952 said:
Looks to me like Azealia will do anything to get on the only way she thinks she knows how - by trying to troll rappers and stir controversy. The problem with this method is that in the longer term it doesn't bear fruit and you have to find other ways to evolve. Look at 50 Cent, people forgot that he was actually a dope artist after the sales slowed down the momentum chilled.

Always remember, the people that you shit on on your way up are the same people who will shit on you on your way down. She basically going at anyone who doesn't blatantly say "Fuck Iggy Azalea", FOH and fight your own battles. Lupe killed her. Before this I remember when A$AP Nast dropped dude pics of Azealia Banks and killed her ass SMMFH:

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LOLOLOLOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLL @ this shit, she had no rebuttals after taking this gallon of ether, she lucky Lupe didn't kill her with that shit. Azealia is that chicken head bitch that wanna bother you for no fucking reason cuz she has nothing better to do SMMFH.

Lmao...I'm done reading what this chick gotta say.

That face put me off next week Sunday's dinner....

 
Black_Samson;7704089 said:
Like Water;7703408 said:
S2J;7703373 said:
Like Water;7703230 said:
S2J;7702938 said:
Like Water;7702681 said:
S2J;7702492 said:
ROZAYTABERNACLE;7702475 said:
S2J;7702454 said:
Also, they had that ngga Lupe on tape talkin bout movin weight. If they wanted, they could have easily RICO'd his ass.

Why is that relevant-the hustle game, and ex d boys, are always surrounded by non profit orgs, community outreach, etc. Im not sayin he laundering money, but im just sayin he has reason for me to doubt the authenticity or motive of his activism. In other words, he's not what he appears to be imo

man the muthafucka was on tv cryin about the chi-town crime shit, I don't think he's inauthentic about it.

No doubt, but that doesnt negate what im sayin. Probly adds to it. Keep him in the hood where he can he the brighest bulb there and the savior and he's good. Pull him out of that and he's a fraud. He speaks as if---like Cudi very accurately said---that him as a rapper is a gift and he's needed to break it down for evrrybody

Super s/n, he reminds me of deion sanders if you're familiar with his charter school Prime Prep. They had him on tape sayin 'if i dont get paid aint gon be no school'. There are certain personality types that want things to be better, but they want it to he bc of them, their way, and if not they find a way to be unhappy or bytch how somethin aint right.

Man, you goin extra hard over there, ain't you g? Lol. You could've stopped after you said you didn't care for dude like 10 posts ago. Now, however, you're coming across like a vindictive broad; letting her disdain for someone override the ability to think logically, and instead arguing with emotion, uninformed opinions and half-truths.

Ain't they teach you how to debate at college, school boy? 's not a good a look for a man. Cut it out bruh.

I'd hope you could seperate me saying ' i dont like him' from the facts i bring to the table. If not, cool.

But i see cats co-signed sayin im 'uninformed'

Are yall denying that this ever happened??:

Chicago Police Lt. Robert Grapenthien testified that during their wiretap investigation of Charles Patton’s cell phone, investigators heard Patton on March 25, 2003, set up a drug sale with Jerry Warren. Warren, who was convicted for his role in the case in October, set up a meeting at Hyde Park, an area under police surveillance.

Patton was also heard making March 25 Amtrak train reservations for himself and Fiasco the day prior, the Tribune reported. Although nine other people were charged with the Pattons, court records show that one person was acquitted in the case, while the others either pled guilty or were convicted. If convicted, the Pattons could face 15 to 60 years in prison, according to prosecutors.

Chilly got 44.

Also,

During the course of the trial, it was revealed that there’s another tape in which Fiasco and Patton are heard discussing splitting up “whole yellow” and “whole red” ones. Lupe testified that they were referring to the mixing of music tracks, and that he didn’t have shit to do with any drug dealing, except when he used to rap about it.

Ok, so we can rationally conclude Lupe was movin weight. Dont even come at me w/ the it wasnt proven, why you tryin to convict a brotha, blah blah blah. Lemme tell you why this is relevant-Dude mentioned all the great orgs and non-profits Lupe runs. Im pointing out why that isnt the end all be all bc a lot of people doin completely contradictory things have non profits and community things. Also, its more info supporting Lupe isnt who he appears to be. Doesnt mean i think he's inauthentic about hi spain of dead chi teens, or his dsire to hel, etc. Juts means he aint some concious and righteous dude.

But i dont wanna digress...somebody said im uninformed like that shyt didnt actually happen. Like Lupe aint lucky to be free. Clearly, w/ the bolded above, he's lucky to be free.

Aren't we, as human beings, inherently contradictory? Based on that absolute truth, would it be unreasonable to say that he realized that he was lucky to make it out of that life and devote himself to the people?

If you're going to tear him down, you have to tear down MLK, Malcolm, Huey, Muhammad Ali, Pac, Nas, Mos Def, and the list goes on. Not putting Lu in the same category as those people per se, but all of them had problems and moments where their actions and words were contradictory.

You can't point your finger at one and conveniently leave out similar situations because they'd denounce your argument. We understand you don't like dude. Just leave it at that.

Lol No. I'm very aware of the connotations of the words people use. 'Leave it at that' implies i blindly just dont like him thus im attacking what he says/does. No. i dont like him because of what he says/does.

So there's no need to say 'leave it at that' as if i have a personal ax to grind that clouds my judgement. Everything he does and says (i.e. the kkk mask, him bein a dumb-smart ngga, contrarian, etc) leads to why 'i dont like him'.

Ok fam. You single out the very last statement of my rebuttal and only respond to that, thus ignoring everything else I wrote. Why is that? You know what? Don't even answer that. You and I know why.

Regardless, you're done here.

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Nigga debates like a single mother.

Black_Samson;7702734 said:
S2J;7702482 said:
Bene_Elohim;7701328 said:
I just wanted to come in here and say FUCK JAY Z & his camel jocking groupies. All of sudden y'all boxing experts and some you don't even post in the boxing thread. Y'all become experts in everything Jay Z does with ya Camel jocking college degrees. foh. that is all

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Ohhhh boy, the dweebs have arrived.

Yeea cause its so much more fun speculating and stanning, and then switching the topic or stripping shit out of context once youve been proven wrong..... right?

Thread needs the boxing geeks, cause you gay-z fans got this thread smelling of belly semen and skint knees.

And look at this ol 'Get em girl!' ass ngga.
 
So @S2J‌ it sounds like youre saying people cant change for the better? And that actions that took place in the past define us for the rest of our lives.

If Lupe isn't moving weight and glorifying the streets anymore why should he still be held to those standards?

Nothing contradictory about his music if he truly has changed his ways. 2003 was right around the time he decided to be positive. Probably becbecause of the life altering situations he was in.

I would hope the actions and the decisions you made wouldnt be held over your head as you matured.

Like many have already stated he is really about the betterment of his people. Its sad when someone who is doing some positive things is getting the side eye. And for what because he used to move weight in the past?

"But when I grew up, I put away childish things"
 
Breezy_Kilroy;7704779 said:
So @S2J‌ it sounds like youre saying people cant change for the better? And that actions that took place in the past define us for the rest of our lives.

If Lupe isn't moving weight and glorifying the streets anymore why should he still be held to those standards?

Nothing contradictory about his music if he truly has changed his ways. 2003 was right around the time he decided to be positive. Probably becbecause of the life altering situations he was in.

I would hope the actions and the decisions you made wouldnt be held over your head as you matured.

Like many have already stated he is really about the betterment of his people. Its sad when someone who is doing some positive things is getting the side eye. And for what because he used to move weight in the past?

"But when I grew up, I put away childish things"

The primary issue for me is comments he made yesterday, not his past lol Idgaf about the drug shyt, that was a point made in regard to a specific comment

It actually seems Lupe HAS changed, into this contrarian, told you so, holier than thou persona. Which is why i do not fuk wit him.

 
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Also, they had that ngga Lupe on tape talkin bout movin weight. If they wanted, they could have easily RICO'd his ass.

Why is that relevant-the hustle game, and ex d boys, are always surrounded by non profit orgs, community outreach, etc. Im not sayin he laundering money, but im just sayin he has reason for me to doubt the authenticity or motive of his activism. In other words, he's not what he appears to be imo

man the muthafucka was on tv cryin about the chi-town crime shit, I don't think he's inauthentic about it.

No doubt, but that doesnt negate what im sayin. Probly adds to it. Keep him in the hood where he can he the brighest bulb there and the savior and he's good. Pull him out of that and he's a fraud. He speaks as if---like Cudi very accurately said---that him as a rapper is a gift and he's needed to break it down for evrrybody

Super s/n, he reminds me of deion sanders if you're familiar with his charter school Prime Prep. They had him on tape sayin 'if i dont get paid aint gon be no school'. There are certain personality types that want things to be better, but they want it to he bc of them, their way, and if not they find a way to be unhappy or bytch how somethin aint right.

Man, you goin extra hard over there, ain't you g? Lol. You could've stopped after you said you didn't care for dude like 10 posts ago. Now, however, you're coming across like a vindictive broad; letting her disdain for someone override the ability to think logically, and instead arguing with emotion, uninformed opinions and half-truths.

Ain't they teach you how to debate at college, school boy? 's not a good a look for a man. Cut it out bruh.

I'd hope you could seperate me saying ' i dont like him' from the facts i bring to the table. If not, cool.

But i see cats co-signed sayin im 'uninformed'

Are yall denying that this ever happened??:

Chicago Police Lt. Robert Grapenthien testified that during their wiretap investigation of Charles Patton’s cell phone, investigators heard Patton on March 25, 2003, set up a drug sale with Jerry Warren. Warren, who was convicted for his role in the case in October, set up a meeting at Hyde Park, an area under police surveillance.

Patton was also heard making March 25 Amtrak train reservations for himself and Fiasco the day prior, the Tribune reported. Although nine other people were charged with the Pattons, court records show that one person was acquitted in the case, while the others either pled guilty or were convicted. If convicted, the Pattons could face 15 to 60 years in prison, according to prosecutors.

Chilly got 44.

Also,

During the course of the trial, it was revealed that there’s another tape in which Fiasco and Patton are heard discussing splitting up “whole yellow” and “whole red” ones. Lupe testified that they were referring to the mixing of music tracks, and that he didn’t have shit to do with any drug dealing, except when he used to rap about it.

Ok, so we can rationally conclude Lupe was movin weight. Dont even come at me w/ the it wasnt proven, why you tryin to convict a brotha, blah blah blah. Lemme tell you why this is relevant-Dude mentioned all the great orgs and non-profits Lupe runs. Im pointing out why that isnt the end all be all bc a lot of people doin completely contradictory things have non profits and community things. Also, its more info supporting Lupe isnt who he appears to be. Doesnt mean i think he's inauthentic about hi spain of dead chi teens, or his dsire to hel, etc. Juts means he aint some concious and righteous dude.

But i dont wanna digress...somebody said im uninformed like that shyt didnt actually happen. Like Lupe aint lucky to be free. Clearly, w/ the bolded above, he's lucky to be free.

You were called uninformed because you are questioning the authenticity of Lupe philanthropy. You don't have to dig up news reports, Lupe said in his music, interviews, and social media that he used to do dirt. But the thing about 'front' organizations is that they don't ever have any real impact. Ask the kids at Julian high school on the Southside of Chicago if Lupe has ever done anything for them. The answer is an emphatic yes.

It's one thing to muse about it. It's another to actually be there and see it for yourself.

I'll do this the easy way: his works do not excuse his consistent dumb ass comments, inflated view of himself,and patronizing view of black america. The end

First you were talking about the authenticity of his philanthropy. Now you're falling back on his egotistical demeanor. Pick a subject to discuss and stick to it.
 
So....at the end of the day, no matter how trash Cudi is, he was right and Lupe was caping for a coon. Let's drop the "who" said the message and remember the "what" they said in their message.
 
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Loved the cool. Didnt like anything else he released too much. But hes about that troll life and thats awesome. If anyone ever asks me if i listen to or like lupe fiasco ill reply "he's cool."

But F&L was better

Not according to that vote thread

Man..

'Paris, Tokyo'.. 'Gold Watch'.. 'Superstar'.. 'Dumb It Down'.. 'HipHop Saved Me'..

Those songs got me through a very trying period in early 2008.

I personally prefer The Cool to Food & Liquor. They're both excellent albums all the same
 

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