LMS Debate rd2. Is sexual orientation determined at birth?

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mannnn what the fuck is this shit!!?!?
 
so we all of a sudden cant heckle the pitcher!!? is that what ur tellin me @Sion

its MY JOB to get in yo mans' head..

its UR JOB to keep it on straight..

we been poppin shit this whole tourney AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN u want peace in the guise of this "bein a good topic"

u buggin.

what is it!?

cause heMs ACTUALLY a faggot??!

doesnt take away from the fact im jokin..

this one is jus thinly veiled in truth!!?
 
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BOSSExcellence;c-9602676 said:
VulcanRaven;c-9602668 said:
Only problem I have with young side is that men turn gay in prison too, so it can be learned under certain circumstances.

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so uhhhh @2stepz_ahead this count as a post for team world or nah!!?

Negatory Ghost Rider lol
 
Sion;c-9602699 said:
BOSSExcellence;c-9602689 said:
so we all of a sudden cant heckle the pitcher!!? is that what ur tellin me @Sion

its MY JOB to get in yo mans' head..

its UR JOB to keep it on straight..

we been poppin shit this whole tourney AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN u want peace in the guise of this "bein a good topic"

u buggin.

what is it!?

cause heMs ACTUALLY a faggot??!

doesnt take away from the fact im jokin..

this was is jus thinly veiled in truth!!?

No disrespect man but ain't nobody got time for it just put it in the general thread man that's all I'm saying. This actually a good topic man for real let them go at it.

but they are goin at it!!?

its mighty funny last round u was big talkin shit every marchup full of urself..

full of shit but full of urself none the less..

i was busy so i really couldnt give this COMPETITION the attention i wanted to..

but i warned u and everyoke else "i got time today" amd im in yall ass.. in part because if how hard u was goin..

last matchup i got into Lemurs head and fucked his whole shit off..

so what is it?!

is it cause i troll better or cause i dont troll like u Mr "do whatever it takes to win" ..Mr "when its a competition im a different beast" ass nigga..

now u coppin pleas..

is it oochie wally or one mic @Sion
 
mryounggun;c-9602693 said:
I'm debating Zombie or zombie and everybody else?

Just curious.

@mryounggun

I think @2stepz_ahead needs to make it clear from now on in the opening posts that random niggas and niggas/bitches alike coming in and jumping in on the debate will be banned.
 
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HIS original post was trash because it was off topic, this nigga is off topic and is attempting to rearrange the meanings of words to fit his argument but just because you redefine the meanings of a concept does not mean you are presenting the truth of that concept. SEXUAL ORIENTATION DOES NOT SIMPLY MEAN GAY OR STRAIGHT.

The burden of proof is on him, he has to prove that sexual orientation is something that all people are born with.... for me to win all i have to prove is that sexual orientation is not something we are born with.

using simple common sense it is easy to see that he is wrong if you are genetically hard wired then you cannot change your characteristics and we know for a fact that under certain circumstances people change their sexual orientations all the time.

His whole argument hinges on sexual orientation being based on human feelings............ i don't think he knows how fucking stupid that is. HE SAYS" What defines sexual orientation is not actual physical acts, but the feelings of attraction." Human emotions change like the seasons and are reactive to the environment if sexual orientation was hardwired from birth it wouldn't depend on human emotions. In addition, because IT IS impossible to measure human emotions HE ALSO has no way to determine if the faggots who say they have changed there ways really have changed or not.

Quotes like this do not support his position

"Scientists have isolated the GABRG3 gene, located in the 15th chromosome, and dubbed it the 'alcoholic gene'. When studying families at the genetic level who have a documented history of alcoholism, it was discovered that this gene was present in almost all family members. It was discovered that while lots of the members of the families studied did become alcoholics, some had successfully stopped drinking and some never even began drinking."

^^^^^^^^ all the members of that family still have the same gene so there is no proof of any change on a genetic level, how genes work is by reaction to the physical stimuli in the environment. In other words some genes are turned on instantly and others need contributing physical factors to activate them. Everyone in that family did not become an alcoholic because not every one of them were exposed enough to the proper stimuli (alcohol and stress) that would trigger alcoholism.

DO YOU PEOPLE UNDERSTAND??? No one is born an alcoholic the same way no one is born gay they would have to be triggered into homosexuality through some process that science does not understand and first of all they would have to have the genetic tendency for it, that is assuming that a gay gene actually exist...... No it does not

My opponent says " Homosexuality is something the is generic for ALL members of the human species? Show me where I said that. If you are going to even attempt to convince these good people that your side of the argument is correct, at least let it be based on something that I actually said, rather than a straw man argument.

FOOL if you are arguing erroneously that sexual orientation is something that we are born with then you are arguing that it's genetic.
 
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I'm fucking loving this debate thus far. These niggas is going at it and throwing haymakers in this bitch and they STILL got 3 more posts each!!!

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zzombie;c-9602768 said:
HIS original post was trash because it was off topic, this nigga is off topic and 1) is attempting to rearrange the meanings of words to fit his argument but just because you redefine the meanings of a concept does not mean you are presenting the truth of that concept. SEXUAL ORIENTATION DOES NOT SIMPLY MEAN GAY OR STRAIGHT.

The burden of proof is on him, he has to prove that sexual orientation is something that all people are born with.... for me to win all i have to prove is that sexual orientation is not something we are born with.

using simple common sense it is easy to see that he is wrong 2. if you are genetically hard wired then you cannot change your characteristics and we know for a fact that under certain circumstances people change their sexual orientations all the time.

His whole argument hinges on sexual orientation being based on human feelings............ i don't think he knows how fucking stupid that is. HE SAYS" What defines sexual orientation is not actual physical acts, but the feelings of attraction." 3. Human emotions change like the seasons and are reactive to the environment if sexual orientation was hardwired from birth it wouldn't depend on human emotions. In addition, because IT IS impossible to measure human emotions HE ALSO has no way to determine if the faggots who say they have changed there ways really have changed or not.

Quotes like this do not support his position

"Scientists have isolated the GABRG3 gene, located in the 15th chromosome, and dubbed it the 'alcoholic gene'. When studying families at the genetic level who have a documented history of alcoholism, it was discovered that this gene was present in almost all family members. It was discovered that while lots of the members of the families studied did become alcoholics, some had successfully stopped drinking and some never even began drinking."

^^^^^^^^ all the members of that family still have the same gene so there is no proof of any change on a genetic level, how genes work is by reaction to the physical stimuli in the environment. In other words some genes are turned on instantly and others need contributing physical factors to activate them. Everyone in that family did not become an alcoholic because not every one of them were exposed enough to the proper stimuli (alcohol and stress) that would trigger alcoholism.

DO YOU PEOPLE UNDERSTAND??? No one is born an alcoholic the same way no one is born gay they would have to be triggered into homosexuality through some process that science does not understand and first of all they would have to have the genetic tendency for it, that is assuming that a gay gene actually exist...... No it does not

My opponent says " Homosexuality is something the is generic for ALL members of the human species? Show me where I said that. If you are going to even attempt to convince these good people that your side of the argument is correct, at least let it be based on something that I actually said, rather than a straw man argument.

4. FOOL if you are arguing erroneously that sexual orientation is something that we are born with then you are arguing that it's genetic.

1. I gave you the actual DICTIONARY definition of sexual orientation. But I'M the one trying to rearrange the meaning of the term? I warned the people right from the beginning that this Caribbean Curry Coon nigga was gonna try to twist the definition. And sure enough, right after I delivered the most simple, straight forward literal definition of 'sexual orientation', this nigga came in quoting some flowery as language about sexual identity, non-sexual affection and other Caitlyn Jenner-esque shit. CUT THE BULLSHIT.

2. I'v given an example already about being hardwired for something genetically, and then stopping or not engaging in the actual behavior that you are hardwired for. I gave you the actual name of the gene that it was I was referencing and told exactly how that disproved that stupid shit that you were spewing. Your reply was '...there is no proof of any change on a genetic level', as if there needs to be any proof of change on a genetic level or as if I claimed there was any change on a genetic level. What my claim proves, based on this little thing that you may have heard of before had you been paying attention in class back when your bitch nigga father and uncles were doing bitch nigga shit to you like tying you to trees and shit, is that it's 100% possible to be genetically pre-disposed to some shit and still change that behavior. Ya know, much like it is possible to be genetically pre-disposed to being a fucking queer...and not actually act on this sexual urges. But guess what? Even if you don't act on those urges, YOU. ARE. STILL. A. QUEER. And do you know why? Because you were BORN with a predisposition to be attracted to dick and there is nothing you an do to change that. Am I hitting close to home yet?

3. I thought it was pretty obvious when I sad 'feelings of sexual attraction' that I wasn't referring to emotional feelings. But I guess not. It seems that only a fucking intellectual midget wouldn't understand this simple fact: Your sexual orientation is dictated by which sex you have FEELINGS of sexual attraction towards. Although I can see why Zombie would be confused by that; he's literally the most emotional adult male on the fucking planet.

4. Damn, you REALLY think that just because you are born with something...that means it's 'genetic'? YOU IGNORANT FUCK! 'Genetic' refers to the study of genes, which are hereditary markers passed down from your parents, grandparents, etc. Just because you are born with something does not mean that that something was passed down to you via the genes of previous generations. There are literally thousands of things that a child can be born with that have nothing to do with genetics. Rather they are caused by exposure to certain chemicals while in utero, the mother's drug use, hormonal imbalances while in utero and other external, NON-GENETIC causes. Am I saying sexual orientation is defiantly one of those things? No. I say that so highlight the fact that you have literally done nothing but put forth falsehoods and egregiously false information in this thread. To simply say 'if you are arguing that someone is born with something is to argue that it is genetic' is fucking simple-minded and lazy. And you're Jamaican, so I KNOW you're not lazy. That leaves only being fucking simple-minded.

Let me close my 3rd round argument with the following:

This fuck niggas CATCHPHRASE is 'The white man is a NATURAL faggot'. This is what HE says on an almost daily basis. This is something that HIS brain crafted and felt was worthy of commenting over and over again. Not a 'NURTURED faggot'. A 'NATURAL faggot'.

Surely you all can see what is happening here.
 

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