LMS Debate: gabi vs CeLLaR-DooR: should famine struck areas be fed genetically modified foods

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CeLLaR-DooR;9518292 said:
2stepz_ahead;9518276 said:
cell bout to take home the L

I'm way way way too hungover to post a decent response so looks like i'ma have to concede

Unless, @atribecalledgabi, 3 posts each. It's the weekend and truesay you took Friday off which messed me up a lil so we can open the floor for votes? Its up to you tho', since I'm the one who can't continue at the moment

I already offered to concede.

I already acknowledged that I was the one who stopped the ting

I asked Gab if she wanted to put it to a vote. If she doesn't, I'm cool with the L.

You niggas politicised our debate from the jump to the land

 
CeLLaR-DooR;9518874 said:
CeLLaR-DooR;9518292 said:
2stepz_ahead;9518276 said:
cell bout to take home the L

I'm way way way too hungover to post a decent response so looks like i'ma have to concede

Unless, @atribecalledgabi, 3 posts each. It's the weekend and truesay you took Friday off which messed me up a lil so we can open the floor for votes? Its up to you tho', since I'm the one who can't continue at the moment

I already offered to concede.

I already acknowledged that I was the one who stopped the ting

I asked Gab if she wanted to put it to a vote. If she doesn't, I'm cool with the L.

You niggas politicised our debate from the jump to the land

Hey man you said all that when I was offline. Lol I was still sleep. I woke up and saw 2stepz had already taken care of it how he saw fit so it wouldn't have mattered what I said for or against at that point. I'm fine with it going to a vote tho. 3 rounds is enough to judge imo. Plus I did a lotta hw on this shit lmao I wouldn't want the W that easy
 
I personally say let's leave it to the judges. There is still ample material from which to decide who argued better. That's what this is about right? Debate skills?

I mean...either way Gabs was clearly the victor.
 
Sion;9518599 said:
CeLLaR-DooR;9518589 said:
I stopped because I wouldn't have been able to respond properly and this shit is draggin'. I was consistent from the jump, then there was a break and now it's Sunday. Imo it's fair to go to votes coz I wasn't the one who took a day off and it's the weekend man niggas got shit to do.

And let me also add that Gabi was the one who took the longest to make all her posts.

The Americans are so desperate they'll take anything they can get SMMFH. Gabi was cool with me taking Cellar's place until Boss showed up and told her to come to her senses. I get it... Yall aint want it with me now yall screaming "nah don't let judges call it". Last thing I thought I'd see is an American begging for leniency and mercy....

LOOLOOLOLOOLOLOL shit is fucking HILARIOUS B !!!

@Sion grab a snicker my nigga..

u aint urself right now. hahaha
 
Sion;9518956 said:
Ya know I was doing all this to get under Gabi's skin. Because I was hoping they'd stretch it out into another around but it ain't work. Told yall I'd put a shot-off to ya head to win. I'm mad competitive and yeah I did go overboard. Goldie said nothing to judge cuz dude conceded.

Welp it's unfortunate Team World lost this match up.

Congratulations Team USA on your first win :+1:

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mryounggun;9518914 said:
I personally say let's leave it to the judges. There is still ample material from which to decide who argued better. That's what this is about right? Debate skills?

I mean...either way Gabs was clearly the victor.

Yeah. My Votes for @atribecalledgabi

But @CeLLaR-DooR could have battled back. He gave up too soon. Gabi had a good strategy, but Cellar could have turned it around on her for real.....

Shouldn't have quit bruh.
 
welp cellar.....

the judges have spoken.

basically they dont have enough to go by.....

team America gets the win ...but i am sure they didnt want it like this

onto the next

America 1- The World 1
 
bambu;9518811 said:
So is this over????

I vote for @atribecalledgabi.....

Plus I am more than a little biased on this issue.....

Oh yea....

You can run but can't hide from the truth.......

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id like to call bullshit on this.....

he cheated....he voted for himself with his alias..

an everyone knows im the GOAT since i made it to both finals and was cheated both times.....

niggas aint want me to win....treating me like i m meek mill
 
The real tragedy here is that Gabi smoked this nigga while defending a shitty position. Cellar could have easily won this but he only briefly mentioned the bulletproof argument that would have won him the debate rather than focusing most of his efforts on it:

Almost EVERY single food we eat today is already genetically modified by humans.

You think strawberries naturally grow in nature that big and sweet?

You ever had ACTUAL corn? Like the kind that the Indians grew before the pilgrims colonized this bitch and starting playing around with selective breeding? That shot is disgusting.

So essentially the argument here was 'Should we feed famine stricken areas with the same exact food we've been feeding the rest of the world pretty much since we as a species made he shift from mainly hunter-gatherer to a farming population?'.

Should have been an easy win for team world.

 
mryounggun;9519953 said:
The real tragedy here is that Gabi smoked this nigga while defending a shitty position. Cellar could have easily won this but he only briefly mentioned the bulletproof argument that would have won him the debate rather than focusing most of his efforts on it:

Almost EVERY single food we eat today is already genetically modified by humans.

You think strawberries naturally grow in nature that big and sweet?

You ever had ACTUAL corn? Like the kind that the Indians grew before the pilgrims colonized this bitch and starting playing around with selective breeding? That shot is disgusting.

So essentially the argument here was 'Should we feed famine stricken areas with the same exact food we've been feeding the rest of the world pretty much since we as a species made he shift from mainly hunter-gatherer to a farming population?'.

Should have been an easy win for team world.

Exactly. He did it in the 3rd round and I didn't have shit else to contribute after the monsanto shit lol so if we woulda went all the way to 5 he mighta actually won.

The kill shot he coulda took against me is that the general consensus is that GMOs are safe to eat. If cellar woulda said that and kept driving that home along with the fact everything we eat is processed, he coulda dusted me early.

I just had to keep attacking the credibility of the govt and who is behind the scenes cuz scientifically I was at a disadvantage.
 
But y'all need to know why I went hard at @CeLLaR-DooR right out the gate....I got the topic and didn't know wtf to do with it...that's why I wanted lem to change the shit cuz it's stupid lol. But then......i saw this post like a day before the debate

CeLLaR-DooR;9508752 said:
My personal top 3 is, no order, Beauty and the Beast. Aladdin and either Hercules or Hunchback.

Lion King overrated AF

I was FURIOUS. Haven't looked back.
 
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We discussin' the debate now?

I was savin' the big stuff til last. I'm not sure how Gabi smoked me when her arguments were only tangentially connected to GMOs. In an actual debate the moderator wudda told her to keep on topic or docked points
 
i have been studying GMOs.

they dont know if they are safe or not.

to change the DNA of how something grows is not good.

they have certain foods that can grow without water and minimum water drought areas.

they farm salmon and people can tell the difference.

but mostly people dont care as long as its cheaper and you get more for the money.

only thing that should change things is nature...and thats called adapting to the environment...mutating if you will. a slow change is ok....but tp come out the gate just changing shit....we dont know how it effects us.

thats why FDA trials are usually a long process to test the side effects.

honestly gabi had a good argument with the airmen. they said fukk the safe controlled environmental trials....they went straight for the black population without them knowing and inturn caused long lasting effects.

her back up argument with how europe doesnt allow GMOs was a killer no one can dispute....they rather be healthy than feed. meat with steriods is looked at as a bad thing....in america...its cool cuz...thats a big ass steak for $15.

we dont know if the GMO's is effecting our health in ways we dont understand yet. just because we are not sick doesnt mean we wont get sick.

and @kai ....if monsanto is not soo bad....why did they have to angle to get control of the FDA. they can pass shit that others could not.....and the trials wont mean shit because there is no one there to stop or control or regulate, so its very interesting that they are on the leading end of the GMOs.

and as a person who worked inside their headquarters in St louis....Yea, you cant tell me different. I know what i saw and til this day thats the only big pharma company I refuse to work with.
 
CeLLaR-DooR;9520024 said:
We discussin' the debate now?

I was savin' the big stuff til last. I'm not sure how Gabi smoked me when her arguments were only tangentially connected to GMOs. In an actual debate the moderator wudda told her to keep on topic or docked points

I mean.....you had the science in your favor.

All I had was that the long term effects are unknown on top of monsanto being the main corp behind it. I had to stretch those out and keep restating em cuz the shit IS shady regardless.

I had to go at it like court....you had the open and shut case cuz the fact of the matter is that we use GMOs any and everywhere and it's not debatable. However, I just had to present that doubt.
 
http://www.ecowatch.com/its-official-19-european-countries-say-no-to-gmos-1882106434.html

this is what i mean...

i am honestly surprised kai is taking this stance...

the FDA is very strict, more strict than the EMA yet.....they allow GMO and the EMA or should i say certain EU countries ban it.

FDA is in place to protect the US populace...but if you control who regulates.....thats a conflict of interests.

FDA shelves lots of shit that can help the populace....but they refuse to allow it due to certain side effects. hell if you watch some medicine commercials...at the end...the fast talking dude or in very small fine print....they list the side effects and some say death can occur. but since the percentage is small that can allow it.

where does the shit say ..the side effects are unknown on the side of food. dont matter cause americans dont care. cigarettes can be proven to mke you sick.....but the food cant yet....so thats why the warning is on the side of a pack of cigarettes and not the packaging of corn, or beef or chicken.

but then they fukk shit a limit foregrais cuz of the force feeding of ducks but they inject cows and chickens with steroid to make them grow faster.

shit is crazy
 
and miss me with the helping africans ....they are purposely going into these remote village to get away from prying eyes to test what it does to the local controlled population....

just think ebola.....shit disappeared and then reappeared ready to do damage...but once white people caught it....control that shit and back to the drawing board. it was no longer confined to just african tribes.
 
Sion;9520167 said:
Objectively Gabi didn't touch on GMO at all. She never even answered the question. Objectively she used terrible arguments (Tuskegee had nothing to do with GMO, neither did Monsanto or Bayer, the 94 crime bill, Hillary Clinton, mass black incarceration all had nothing to do with the topic). In her first post she didn't say anything regarding GMO at all just posed a question. Even in her second and third post. Gabi's whole argument was that we shouldn't send it to them because we don't know what mutations or disease can come of them - which is irrelevant because we're all fed GMO here and have been for decades. There are programs like UN World Food Programme, etc that help out as well, and avoiding GMO still doesn't help famine and starvation which are a major problem. Not to mention pharmaceutical research like stem cell research and treatment drugs depend partly on GMO (it's not just food btw). Gabi's first post should have detailed the effects on plant and agricultural ecosystems that go extinct or are tremendously impacted (I.e. bees, crops, insect ecosystems, etc) or talked about why the Eurozone wants GMO labelled to begin with. None of that she addressed, which were major criticisms to the topic.

Cellar made excellent points, stayed on topic and in his third post, crushed any arguments she had. His first post could have been more detailed but he made up for that in his final post. My only criticism was that he didn't point out that she was using fallacies and straying from the topic, he also could have pointed out that because of the massive and growing human population, we can't sustain to make entirely organic food and feed everyone which would have been a terrific counter to arguments regarding why we shouldn't use them. I can't say much else cuz he stopped. But from an objective standpoint he did have the better argument.

you gotta let this go bruh...

you need to answer or sending a harlot to show her tits during the debate to distract the american team.

that is not fair play and i respect you as a fair man.

but these debates are splitting the iC down the middle

and bringing traffic.....
 

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