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The mother of succubi.

The omission of Lilith is another example of Abrqhamic sexism. Much like the feminine deities in Egyptian mysticism, Abrahamic religionists are threatened of a dominant and aggressive woman. They would rather have a docile female who is in a constant state of fear and submission than an equal who push the household from the back or pull it from the front whenever necessary.

A woman that loves to ride >>>>>>
 
Any of the deities of the major religions are real in the sense that they are manifestations of the archetypes in which they embody. for examples, hermes is the same god as thoth, who is the same god as Michael. this was a well known phenom in antiquity but has been lost with the slaughter of the priests of the old religions.

so how these "gods" appear all depends solely on your cultural inclination. thats about as far as im willing to go into it on a message board.

the name lilitu has been found on sumerian tablets that are dedicated to incantations, so its clear that the jews adopted her likeliness nad traits from older cultures, with their own cultural spin.
 
Lillith isn't real. She's a depiction of what an evil woman would be like. One who wouldn't submit to God or man. And females weren't expected to be docile. They were expected to not be an embarrassment. They actually were suppose to run the shops translated to own a business and bring wealth in. That's a good woman.
 
Wuwop;534245 said:
i have not read genesis yet in the bible in order to get an understanding of the whole situation but it sounds interesting
Genesis is not going to shed light on this. Lilith is basically Jewish folklore stuff from other sources.

IIRC the break with Adam is just about being subservient and the sex stuff is more of a modern twist on the legend.
 
it's my understanding that lilith preceded adam, but of course the bible doesn't tell the entire story so who knows what's true
 
Well I watched Supernatural and she's the mother of all monsters. She went down kinda easy for a boss character though. She was no match for those Winchester boys.

Seriously though. When people start to realize that these religious texts are just stories thrown together by people with agendas, then questions like this will make more sense. I'm not saying this to down play religion. It's just a fact. You can't pick up the Bible and think that the way it is now was the way it was a couple thousand years ago. Back then the Bible as we know it didn't exist. There were just hundreds of texts out there that told different stories. The people that put it together did so with specific intentions in mind. A different set of people could have put the Bible together and it might be completely different. Lilith might have been the first Genesis woman and Eve would have been the after thought. Hell, someone like Judas could be a hero instead of history's greatest traitor.
 
There is a woman besides Eve referenced in genesis allegedly

With all of the stories missing in the bible I'm going to say it can not be proven or disproven
 
Pico;8231601 said:
Idk breh I've only heard of this bitch being referenced in vampire novels n shit.

I remember Lilith from true blood. you read vampire novels though? I hope youre not into twilight
 
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The Lonious Monk;8236047 said:
Well I watched Supernatural and she's the mother of all monsters. She went down kinda easy for a boss character though. She was no match for those Winchester boys.

Seriously though. When people start to realize that these religious texts are just stories thrown together by people with agendas, then questions like this will make more sense. I'm not saying this to down play religion. It's just a fact. You can't pick up the Bible and think that the way it is now was the way it was a couple thousand years ago. Back then the Bible as we know it didn't exist. There were just hundreds of texts out there that told different stories. The people that put it together did so with specific intentions in mind. A different set of people could have put the Bible together and it might be completely different. Lilith might have been the first Genesis woman and Eve would have been the after thought. Hell, someone like Judas could be a hero instead of history's greatest traitor.

Very true, religion in the end is a culture system that becomes widespread. There's a reason Christianity is most popular in areas that were dominated by Christian conquerors, and Islam most popular in areas dominated by Muslim conquerors. Christianity is changing in many ways now because of culture, look at all the American and European churches having female pastors or even supporting gay weddings. It's because American and European cultures are changing how they view these things. Jesus himself claimed to be changing some of the culture of the Old Testament, so we can see how religions just morph and change for whatever time a culture becomes different. Basically, religion is man made culture.
 
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kingblaze84;8236778 said:
The Lonious Monk;8236047 said:
Well I watched Supernatural and she's the mother of all monsters. She went down kinda easy for a boss character though. She was no match for those Winchester boys.

Seriously though. When people start to realize that these religious texts are just stories thrown together by people with agendas, then questions like this will make more sense. I'm not saying this to down play religion. It's just a fact. You can't pick up the Bible and think that the way it is now was the way it was a couple thousand years ago. Back then the Bible as we know it didn't exist. There were just hundreds of texts out there that told different stories. The people that put it together did so with specific intentions in mind. A different set of people could have put the Bible together and it might be completely different. Lilith might have been the first Genesis woman and Eve would have been the after thought. Hell, someone like Judas could be a hero instead of history's greatest traitor.

Very true, religion in the end is a culture system that becomes widespread. There's a reason Christianity is most popular in areas that were dominated by Christian conquerors, and Islam most popular in areas dominated by Muslim conquerors. Christianity is changing in many ways now because of culture, look at all the American and European churches having female pastors or even supporting gay weddings. It's because American and European cultures are changing how they view these things. Jesus himself claimed to be changing some of the culture of the Old Testament, so we can see how religions just morph and change for whatever time a culture becomes different. Basically, religion is man made culture.

im taking a history class now and you stand correct according to the cacs texts, it seems as if religion didnt propser by the powerful word of the "lord" it prospered by the hand of the sword....shit is crazy how them niggas used religion as a method of order and influence but for the sole purpose of control....

i wonder how much knowledge has been lost due to conquest and conversion....

the more i read and learn about history the more sus organized religion looks
 
Wuwop;8237848 said:
kingblaze84;8236778 said:
The Lonious Monk;8236047 said:
Well I watched Supernatural and she's the mother of all monsters. She went down kinda easy for a boss character though. She was no match for those Winchester boys.

Seriously though. When people start to realize that these religious texts are just stories thrown together by people with agendas, then questions like this will make more sense. I'm not saying this to down play religion. It's just a fact. You can't pick up the Bible and think that the way it is now was the way it was a couple thousand years ago. Back then the Bible as we know it didn't exist. There were just hundreds of texts out there that told different stories. The people that put it together did so with specific intentions in mind. A different set of people could have put the Bible together and it might be completely different. Lilith might have been the first Genesis woman and Eve would have been the after thought. Hell, someone like Judas could be a hero instead of history's greatest traitor.

Very true, religion in the end is a culture system that becomes widespread. There's a reason Christianity is most popular in areas that were dominated by Christian conquerors, and Islam most popular in areas dominated by Muslim conquerors. Christianity is changing in many ways now because of culture, look at all the American and European churches having female pastors or even supporting gay weddings. It's because American and European cultures are changing how they view these things. Jesus himself claimed to be changing some of the culture of the Old Testament, so we can see how religions just morph and change for whatever time a culture becomes different. Basically, religion is man made culture.

im taking a history class now and you stand correct according to the cacs texts, it seems as if religion didnt propser by the powerful word of the "lord" it prospered by the hand of the sword....shit is crazy how them niggas used religion as a method of order and influence but for the sole purpose of control....

i wonder how much knowledge has been lost due to conquest and conversion....

the more i read and learn about history the more sus organized religion looks

I can't even imagine all the knowledge and artifacts that were lost. And yeah religion historically spread the most after wars and conflicts, the winners get to spread their religion around, losers get their religious priests killed and others get scared and convert. If Spain, Portugal, England and other nations didn't go around the world taking land and resources with priests or pastors all up in the mix, Christianity wouldn't be widespread as it is now.

Without the bloody expansion of the Ottoman Empire, I doubt Islam would be the 2nd biggest religion in the world now. To be fair, trade is also a big reason religion spread, I'm still debating with myself on if trade or war spread organized religion faster.
 
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kingblaze84;8238254 said:
Wuwop;8237848 said:
kingblaze84;8236778 said:
The Lonious Monk;8236047 said:
Well I watched Supernatural and she's the mother of all monsters. She went down kinda easy for a boss character though. She was no match for those Winchester boys.

Seriously though. When people start to realize that these religious texts are just stories thrown together by people with agendas, then questions like this will make more sense. I'm not saying this to down play religion. It's just a fact. You can't pick up the Bible and think that the way it is now was the way it was a couple thousand years ago. Back then the Bible as we know it didn't exist. There were just hundreds of texts out there that told different stories. The people that put it together did so with specific intentions in mind. A different set of people could have put the Bible together and it might be completely different. Lilith might have been the first Genesis woman and Eve would have been the after thought. Hell, someone like Judas could be a hero instead of history's greatest traitor.

Very true, religion in the end is a culture system that becomes widespread. There's a reason Christianity is most popular in areas that were dominated by Christian conquerors, and Islam most popular in areas dominated by Muslim conquerors. Christianity is changing in many ways now because of culture, look at all the American and European churches having female pastors or even supporting gay weddings. It's because American and European cultures are changing how they view these things. Jesus himself claimed to be changing some of the culture of the Old Testament, so we can see how religions just morph and change for whatever time a culture becomes different. Basically, religion is man made culture.

im taking a history class now and you stand correct according to the cacs texts, it seems as if religion didnt propser by the powerful word of the "lord" it prospered by the hand of the sword....shit is crazy how them niggas used religion as a method of order and influence but for the sole purpose of control....

i wonder how much knowledge has been lost due to conquest and conversion....

the more i read and learn about history the more sus organized religion looks

I can't even imagine all the knowledge and artifacts that were lost. And yeah religion historically spread the most after wars and conflicts, the winners get to spread their religion around, losers get their religious priests killed and others get scared and convert. If Spain, Portugal, England and other nations didn't go around the world taking land and resources with priests or pastors all up in the mix, Christianity wouldn't be widespread as it is now.

Without the bloody expansion of the Ottoman Empire, I doubt Islam would be the 2nd biggest religion in the world now. To be fair, trade is also a big reason religion spread, I'm still debating with myself on if trade or war spread organized religion faster.

no doubt

but you have to admit that the thought of a higher being came from somewhere but where in the mix did it become a tool for power and who recognized that it would work on the masses

the idea of using religion as a tool is almost as much of a evil genius as the idea of jim crow
 
Wuwop;8238281 said:
kingblaze84;8238254 said:
Wuwop;8237848 said:
kingblaze84;8236778 said:
The Lonious Monk;8236047 said:
Well I watched Supernatural and she's the mother of all monsters. She went down kinda easy for a boss character though. She was no match for those Winchester boys.

Seriously though. When people start to realize that these religious texts are just stories thrown together by people with agendas, then questions like this will make more sense. I'm not saying this to down play religion. It's just a fact. You can't pick up the Bible and think that the way it is now was the way it was a couple thousand years ago. Back then the Bible as we know it didn't exist. There were just hundreds of texts out there that told different stories. The people that put it together did so with specific intentions in mind. A different set of people could have put the Bible together and it might be completely different. Lilith might have been the first Genesis woman and Eve would have been the after thought. Hell, someone like Judas could be a hero instead of history's greatest traitor.

Very true, religion in the end is a culture system that becomes widespread. There's a reason Christianity is most popular in areas that were dominated by Christian conquerors, and Islam most popular in areas dominated by Muslim conquerors. Christianity is changing in many ways now because of culture, look at all the American and European churches having female pastors or even supporting gay weddings. It's because American and European cultures are changing how they view these things. Jesus himself claimed to be changing some of the culture of the Old Testament, so we can see how religions just morph and change for whatever time a culture becomes different. Basically, religion is man made culture.

im taking a history class now and you stand correct according to the cacs texts, it seems as if religion didnt propser by the powerful word of the "lord" it prospered by the hand of the sword....shit is crazy how them niggas used religion as a method of order and influence but for the sole purpose of control....

i wonder how much knowledge has been lost due to conquest and conversion....

the more i read and learn about history the more sus organized religion looks

I can't even imagine all the knowledge and artifacts that were lost. And yeah religion historically spread the most after wars and conflicts, the winners get to spread their religion around, losers get their religious priests killed and others get scared and convert. If Spain, Portugal, England and other nations didn't go around the world taking land and resources with priests or pastors all up in the mix, Christianity wouldn't be widespread as it is now.

Without the bloody expansion of the Ottoman Empire, I doubt Islam would be the 2nd biggest religion in the world now. To be fair, trade is also a big reason religion spread, I'm still debating with myself on if trade or war spread organized religion faster.

no doubt

but you have to admit that the thought of a higher being came from somewhere but where in the mix did it become a tool for power and who recognized that it would work on the masses

the idea of using religion as a tool is almost as much of a evil genius as the idea of jim crow

Where in the mix? Good question, higher powers are something most people believe in but the rules of religion are made by the prophet's belief system. Or a religious council that has its own agenda for how they want people to behave. In all organized religions, there are parts that are left in holy books and parts left out. Just depends on the bias of whatever council or leader is organizing the religion. And yeah religion has been a great tool for the powerful, it can motivate soldiers to kill better, take land from others more, motivate people to pay taxes more, etc....
 
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