Lil Wayne "Tha Carter" In Review: 10 Year Anniversary

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Turfaholic;7168056 said:
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damobb2deep;7166828 said:
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damobb2deep;7166754 said:
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damobb2deep;7166603 said:
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damobb2deep;7166233 said:
Built 4 cuban linx;7166198 said:
Wow we comparing this to doggystyle and the chronic now,

what did those 2 albums do that the carter ain't do....

Sell more

Have a far greater cultural impact

selling in the 90 ' s was way easier than it was in 2004... but it still did good numbers...

cultural impact? just like doggystyle and cronic... the carter helped influence the generation it was made in...

so next?

You said it did things that the Chronic and Doggystyle did. It didn't sell more. What were the Carter's influences? How did it change the game?

It help bring wayne to a dominate force from 04 till at least 2012... it also and because of the fact that wayne ran the game for those years that means he helped change the game...

and also I'm sure he went Plat off that album... (sold 100k 1st week) so it's still comparable. ..

The Chronic and Doggystyle created a new sound that for good or bad had been emulated for years by other west coast artists and even artists from other regions.

The Carter was cool but did that album give 90% southern artists their sound? That album's sound was already established from years past.

So I'm guessing nwa didn't drop a west coast sounding album before Chronic and Doggystyle...

They did. But the Chronic and Doggystyle influenced an entire generation of artists all over.

Niggas stopped hippity hopping when NWA dropped tho

I don't understand what this means.

NWA changed the face of hiphop. Even in NY

They were influential but they didn't "change the face of hip hop"

Bruh.........

They introduced the world to Gangster Rap...........

Gangster Rap was the genre of the 90s.

No it wasn't the genre of the 90's. In the late 80's you had other influential acts like Run DMC, Public Enemy, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Slick Rick etc. Them along with NWA helped shape hip hop. So to sit there and act like NWA's influence is bigger than the aforementioned is stupid.

None of the niggas u named have a major impact on the genre today. NWA is the reason Em is a constant subject. NWA is the reason Dr. Dre is a billionaire. From Compton to Detroit, to Cleveland, even Queens NY. Come on Jamaica. You don't wanna have this convo with me.

Run fucking DMC is the reason why corporations are cool with giving rappers endorsements. They were the first to get consistent radio play on MTV. Rakim, BDK, Kool G Rap inspired a generation of lyrical emcees and changed the game and paved a way for Nas, Jay Z. Public Enemy helped brought social awareness to hip hop. Paving a way for the Tribes and Kanye's of the world.
 
Wayne's peak was definitely pre-Carter 3. that 06-07 period. Like Father Like Son was part of the reason I think, it was a hot album even though half of it was birdman rappin. the drought is over mixtape series is what really propelled him as well with all the internet-savy folks. people had lil wayne mixtapes dropping every week, even if the shit wasn't legit. I remember that wait for Carter 3 that felt like it was gonna be forever cause shit kept getting pushed back and leaked and then pushed back, etc. shit was a good time in rap to be a wayne fan.
 
Carter I & II were the highlights of his career work wise, success wise carter iii is where he really blew up
 
damobb2deep;7167004 said:
nujerz84;7166970 said:
Wayne was still regional after the Carter dropped. He didnt become a mega star until Carter 3 and Lollipop. Stop with the revisionist bullshit.

Yea regional when there was a bidding war for him after the carter dropped... also you can't deny the niggas buzz around that time... carter 3 was commercial.. but he was a mega star before that... he could not have done the numbers he did if that wasn't the case...

Normally I wouldn't entertain something this dumb but yeah I said that after you said this. Now either you're dumb, have amnesia or trolling, pick one
 
5th Letter;7168145 said:
Turfaholic;7168056 said:
5th Letter;7167814 said:
Turfaholic;7167587 said:
5th Letter;7167547 said:
Turfaholic;7166952 said:
5th Letter;7166945 said:
Turfaholic;7166897 said:
5th Letter;7166840 said:
damobb2deep;7166828 said:
5th Letter;7166807 said:
damobb2deep;7166754 said:
5th Letter;7166705 said:
damobb2deep;7166603 said:
5th Letter;7166250 said:
damobb2deep;7166233 said:
Built 4 cuban linx;7166198 said:
Wow we comparing this to doggystyle and the chronic now,

what did those 2 albums do that the carter ain't do....

Sell more

Have a far greater cultural impact

selling in the 90 ' s was way easier than it was in 2004... but it still did good numbers...

cultural impact? just like doggystyle and cronic... the carter helped influence the generation it was made in...

so next?

You said it did things that the Chronic and Doggystyle did. It didn't sell more. What were the Carter's influences? How did it change the game?

It help bring wayne to a dominate force from 04 till at least 2012... it also and because of the fact that wayne ran the game for those years that means he helped change the game...

and also I'm sure he went Plat off that album... (sold 100k 1st week) so it's still comparable. ..

The Chronic and Doggystyle created a new sound that for good or bad had been emulated for years by other west coast artists and even artists from other regions.

The Carter was cool but did that album give 90% southern artists their sound? That album's sound was already established from years past.

So I'm guessing nwa didn't drop a west coast sounding album before Chronic and Doggystyle...

They did. But the Chronic and Doggystyle influenced an entire generation of artists all over.

Niggas stopped hippity hopping when NWA dropped tho

I don't understand what this means.

NWA changed the face of hiphop. Even in NY

They were influential but they didn't "change the face of hip hop"

Bruh.........

They introduced the world to Gangster Rap...........

Gangster Rap was the genre of the 90s.

No it wasn't the genre of the 90's. In the late 80's you had other influential acts like Run DMC, Public Enemy, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Slick Rick etc. Them along with NWA helped shape hip hop. So to sit there and act like NWA's influence is bigger than the aforementioned is stupid.

None of the niggas u named have a major impact on the genre today. NWA is the reason Em is a constant subject. NWA is the reason Dr. Dre is a billionaire. From Compton to Detroit, to Cleveland, even Queens NY. Come on Jamaica. You don't wanna have this convo with me.

Run fucking DMC is the reason why corporations are cool with giving rappers endorsements. They were the first to get consistent radio play on MTV. Rakim, BDK, Kool G Rap inspired a generation of lyrical emcees and changed the game and paved a way for Nas, Jay Z. Public Enemy helped brought social awareness to hip hop. Paving a way for the Tribes and Kanye's of the world.

MTV don't play music videos hardly. NY radio disrespectful towards Chuck D. Flava Flav.......Vh-1. They paved the way for Kanye......A nigga who once was socially aware but now sales $300 shoes. Run DMC is responsible for selling the culture.

And who's really still eating?

Peep this. NWA> DR. DRE> ICE CUBE> Snoop> Bone Thugs N Harmony> Death Row> Friday> Eminem> 50 Cent>G Unit clothing> Shade45>Beats By Dre> Vitamin Water.

^^^and alotta shit I skipped out cuz im drunk. Bruh the NWA family tree is one of the greatest thing to ever happen to urban culture.
 
Built 4 cuban linx;7168254 said:
damobb2deep;7167004 said:
nujerz84;7166970 said:
Wayne was still regional after the Carter dropped. He didnt become a mega star until Carter 3 and Lollipop. Stop with the revisionist bullshit.

Yea regional when there was a bidding war for him after the carter dropped... also you can't deny the niggas buzz around that time... carter 3 was commercial.. but he was a mega star before that... he could not have done the numbers he did if that wasn't the case...

Normally I wouldn't entertain something this dumb but yeah I said that after you said this. Now either you're dumb, have amnesia or trolling, pick one

I was replying 2 what the person I was talkin 2... they bought it up before me..
 
Im sorry carter 1 and 2 are his best albums but i swear i dont hear anyone in my region of ny even say these album are classics, good but not classic no way, aint nobody up here in the Mecca riding around to know carter 1 songs foh lmao
 
Turfaholic;7168317 said:
5th Letter;7168145 said:
Turfaholic;7168056 said:
5th Letter;7167814 said:
Turfaholic;7167587 said:
5th Letter;7167547 said:
Turfaholic;7166952 said:
5th Letter;7166945 said:
Turfaholic;7166897 said:
5th Letter;7166840 said:
damobb2deep;7166828 said:
5th Letter;7166807 said:
damobb2deep;7166754 said:
5th Letter;7166705 said:
damobb2deep;7166603 said:
5th Letter;7166250 said:
damobb2deep;7166233 said:
Built 4 cuban linx;7166198 said:
Wow we comparing this to doggystyle and the chronic now,

what did those 2 albums do that the carter ain't do....

Sell more

Have a far greater cultural impact

selling in the 90 ' s was way easier than it was in 2004... but it still did good numbers...

cultural impact? just like doggystyle and cronic... the carter helped influence the generation it was made in...

so next?

You said it did things that the Chronic and Doggystyle did. It didn't sell more. What were the Carter's influences? How did it change the game?

It help bring wayne to a dominate force from 04 till at least 2012... it also and because of the fact that wayne ran the game for those years that means he helped change the game...

and also I'm sure he went Plat off that album... (sold 100k 1st week) so it's still comparable. ..

The Chronic and Doggystyle created a new sound that for good or bad had been emulated for years by other west coast artists and even artists from other regions.

The Carter was cool but did that album give 90% southern artists their sound? That album's sound was already established from years past.

So I'm guessing nwa didn't drop a west coast sounding album before Chronic and Doggystyle...

They did. But the Chronic and Doggystyle influenced an entire generation of artists all over.

Niggas stopped hippity hopping when NWA dropped tho

I don't understand what this means.

NWA changed the face of hiphop. Even in NY

They were influential but they didn't "change the face of hip hop"

Bruh.........

They introduced the world to Gangster Rap...........

Gangster Rap was the genre of the 90s.

No it wasn't the genre of the 90's. In the late 80's you had other influential acts like Run DMC, Public Enemy, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Slick Rick etc. Them along with NWA helped shape hip hop. So to sit there and act like NWA's influence is bigger than the aforementioned is stupid.

None of the niggas u named have a major impact on the genre today. NWA is the reason Em is a constant subject. NWA is the reason Dr. Dre is a billionaire. From Compton to Detroit, to Cleveland, even Queens NY. Come on Jamaica. You don't wanna have this convo with me.

Run fucking DMC is the reason why corporations are cool with giving rappers endorsements. They were the first to get consistent radio play on MTV. Rakim, BDK, Kool G Rap inspired a generation of lyrical emcees and changed the game and paved a way for Nas, Jay Z. Public Enemy helped brought social awareness to hip hop. Paving a way for the Tribes and Kanye's of the world.

MTV don't play music videos hardly. NY radio disrespectful towards Chuck D. Flava Flav.......Vh-1. They paved the way for Kanye......A nigga who once was socially aware but now sales $300 shoes. Run DMC is responsible for selling the culture.

And who's really still eating?

Peep this. NWA> DR. DRE> ICE CUBE> Snoop> Bone Thugs N Harmony> Death Row> Friday> Eminem> 50 Cent>G Unit clothing> Shade45>Beats By Dre> Vitamin Water.

^^^and alotta shit I skipped out cuz im drunk. Bruh the NWA family tree is one of the greatest thing to ever happen to urban culture.

And if that's your logic then Kool Herc>>>everybody. But it doesn't work that way. NWA has a great legacy they have a great family tree. But that doesn't make their contributions the greatest. MTV don't play videos anymore, but back then they did and this was at a time when Michael Jackson was the only black artist getting consistent play. Run DMC were probably the first hip hop acts to be really mainstream. They weren't just relegated to weekend hip hop radio shows. But they getting spins on rock stations. Rakim, Kane, Kool G Rap were the ones that really changed the way how emcees spit from a technical standpoint. Their legacy is felt today. Many lyrical emcees since then has taken things that the aforementioned 3 started and made it their own.

Public Enemy brought social awareness to hip hop. Life wasn't about parties and they spit that real shit, while paving a way for many socially conscience emcees.
 
this shit is a classic imo tho, niggas criteria for classic albums is full of contradictions when it comes from album to album, lol @ wayne being regional around this time
 
Built 4 cuban linx;7168826 said:
Niggas damn near never talk about this album when it comes to Wayne but this is a classic tho? Lol foh niggas donating classics now

come on bruh, u know its either carter 1 2 or 3 when it comes to wayne. fall back on the trolling for once lol
 
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Peezy_Jenkins;7168846 said:
Built 4 cuban linx;7168826 said:
Niggas damn near never talk about this album when it comes to Wayne but this is a classic tho? Lol foh niggas donating classics now

come on bruh, u know its either carter 1 2 or 3 when it comes to wayne. fall back on the trolling for once lol

Lmao at carter 3. Now I know you're trolling now. When y'all list your favorite Wayne shit them shits be from mixtapes not his albums.
 

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