Life IS Good makes 149,000k first week

[usmarin3]

From selling 2.8 mil with IWW to not having a platinum album since Godson, see how that works. Ya'll pick and chose who and what you criticize, Distant Relatives didn't even go gold, but let that be Ross, 50,etc.

in your eyes its only bout who goes plat or gold nigga please ! nas made history with life is good he is the first rapper ever to do this! and it dosent matter if your daddy jay z does it next year cuz nas was the first !

life is good

LOL at you bringing up Jay, like comparing accomplishments is a debate you want to get into.

 

[usmarin3]

your grandfather jay z a nas stan he went to nas release party with beyonce cuz he wanted to see if beyonce & nas gonna talk so he could see if nas really is the father of blue ivy !

your grandfather jay z a nas stan he went to nas release party with beyonce cuz he wanted to see if beyonce & nas gonna talk so he could see if nas really is the father of blue ivy !

He went to give his ass a fucking buzz, like he did in 2001.

 

[buttuh_b]

From selling 2.8 mil with IWW to not having a platinum album since Godson, see how that works. Ya'll pick and chose who and what you criticize, Distant Relatives didn't even go gold, but let that be Ross, 50,etc.

What other rappers with platinum albums from 1996 are still having #1 albums in 2012?

You can't seriously compare 50 Cent's sales to Nas when the content is completely different. No one in their right mind expected "Daughters" to propel him to 300k. Def Jam did do a great job promoting this album because the message got to the intended audience. No one is being hypocritical because no one says Jay flops with his 400k. Just by your own logic and reasoning (which we disagree with) Eminem, Wayne and Drake are better artists than Jay due to having way better sales. By your logic Jay is failing because he hasn't had a multiplatinum album in 9 years and when is the last time he sold 5 million albums since we comparing artists to their commercial prime. NOBODY is selling what they sold 15 years ago.

It's all relative. Nas isn't a commercial rapper but he has 9 platinum plaques. That tells you something about the impact of his artistry. So if you put everything into context, yes, Nas did great.

 

[deathrowzorrow]

how much do Nas pay a month in child support? he need to mail his first week sales to the judge & get that child support payment dropped

nothing, its already paid!

 

[georgia boi]

Didn't 50 Cent do those same numbers, people sure weren't saying those numbers were successful. A little double standard here?

It's not a double standard. Nas did 187K four years ago and did 150K this week. That's 37K less. 50 did 600K+ his first week on an album that came out 2 years before his last studio album. 50's last studio album did around 160K which is far much more of a significant drop in half the time of Nas's solo hiatus. 50 also dropped in a better climate during fourth quarter in which sales are usually higher. That year, there were two double platinum albums dropped by artists that 50 had previously matched or outsold (Jay Z, Eminem). In this climate, only one Rap album has gone gold.

 

[And_So_It_Burns]

Streets Disciple is plat.....I thought hip hop is dead was too

 

[deathrowzorrow]

your grandfather jay z a nas stan he went to nas release party with beyonce cuz he wanted to see if beyonce & nas gonna talk so he could see if nas really is the father of blue ivy !

your grandfather jay z a nas stan he went to nas release party with beyonce cuz he wanted to see if beyonce & nas gonna talk so he could see if nas really is the father of blue ivy !

He went to give his ass a fucking buzz, like he did in 2001.

 

[Tommy bilfiger]

how much do Nas pay a month in child support? he need to mail his first week sales to the judge & get that child support payment dropped

Lmao I told niggas this cat fuccin hilarious

 

[deathrowzorrow]

Streets Disciple is plat.....I thought hip hop is dead was too

yup hip hop is dead and sd also went plat

 

[usmarin3]

From selling 2.8 mil with IWW to not having a platinum album since Godson, see how that works. Ya'll pick and chose who and what you criticize, Distant Relatives didn't even go gold, but let that be Ross, 50,etc.

What other rappers with platinum albums from 1996 are still having #1 albums in 2012?

You can't seriously compare 50 Cent's sales to Nas when the content is completely different. No one in their right mind expected "Daughters" to propel him to 300k. Def Jam did do a great job promoting this album because the message got to the intended audience. No one is being hypocritical because no one says Jay flops with his 400k. Just by your own logic and reasoning (which we disagree with) Eminem, Wayne and Drake are better artists than Jay due to having way better sales. By your logic Jay is failing because he hasn't had a multiplatinum album in 9 years and when is the last time he sold 5 million albums since we comparing artists to their commercial prime. NOBODY is selling what they sold 15 years ago.

It's all relative. Nas isn't a commercial rapper but he has 9 platinum plaques. That tells you something about the impact of his artistry. So if you put everything into context, yes, Nas did great.

artistry. So if you put everything into context, yes, Nas did great.[/quote]

There are many rappers from the 90s who still get number 1's, Em does it, Jay does, Outkast does, Wayne does it, Dr. Dre could do it, etc.

LOL at content being different, so what is so deep about SUMMER ON SMASH or THE DON? Life is Good has it's fair share of ice, bitches, and nice car raps, lets not act like this shit is IT TAKES A NATION TO HOLD US BACK. lol At 400k being a flop, that has been Jay-z average week since 1998, his sales been consistent. What the fuck are you even speaking about, no one is saying a album is better because of how much it sells, i say ya'll are hypocrites with your double standard. Ya'll shit on Ross for not being a big seller, clown 50 when he sells 150k, but since it's a nigga ya'll like in Nas ya'll are cool that he put modest first week numbers. LOL BP3 has sold 2 mil in the U.S. and over 4 mil worldwide, try again nigga.

LOL at context, it's only context when your tryna justify something you like. Lets see how the IC reacts when Ross comes out and do in the 100ks, watch the double standard.

 

[deathrowzorrow]

life is good album of the decade

 

[buttuh_b]

These dudes expect Nas to sell Lady Gaga numbers with singles like "Nasty". Lol. No one is frontin like Nas is a superstar in the music business or some shit. I read in another thread where it was asked what Nas should do next Usmarin3 said he should work on his image and become more euro and I'm thinking for what?? He's the people's champ. Not every rapper is gonna be a super superstar, but the fact that Nas is able to have some presence in the game in this day and age while dropping straight quality shit is a testament to the power of great music. Shit this climate we in pretty much make the odds stacked against an artist like Nas. Whether him veering away from the radio lane is because he can't make a hit or doesn't want to doesn't make a difference to me because this shit ain't basketball. Basketball and music ain't the same. You don't make music to "win", you make music to express yourself in an artistic way. If Nas is able to make a comfortable living off that 20 years deep and that's a loss, I'll take a L any day.

 

[FyHunnit]

life is good album of the decade

Its not going to be the album of the year this year, and its not messing with #Section80 from last year.

 

[buttuh_b]

@usmarin3

No, it's not only context when I'm trying to justify something. It's always context period. If Jay has had consistent sales since 98 how come Hard Knock Life went 5x plat but he hasn't had anything sell even 2 mill since 2003?? Bruh, be real. Sales are different now.

Different artists are gonna be held to different standards based on their conformity to current sound trends and how big of an artist they are. Who said Nas was a superstar rapper? He's not so why would you expect him to sell superstar numbers? I'm a 50 fan but are you seriously questioning how a rapper who went diamond twice would be considered a flop selling 150k?

I mean damn I know 150k ain't great for Nas but for the material he released it's far from terrible. This is the second highest debut of the year. Only Nicki Minaj sold more. Wale had like 3 or 4 singles all over the radio last year and did about the same numbers. Nas outsold Chris Brown, Usher, and Frank Ocean. How much can you expect from this guy? Summer on Smash isn't that good of a commercial song and he hasn't even released it as a single.

Fuck are you trying to say b?

 

[usmarin3]

Streets Disciple is plat.....I thought hip hop is dead was too

Streets Disciple is plat.....I thought hip hop is dead was too

Neither one of those albums are platinum, SD was a double album so the sales double, but in actuality it sold less than a mil. HHISD, topped out in the 700ks

 

[buttuh_b]

Streets Disciple is plat.....I thought hip hop is dead was too

Streets Disciple is plat.....I thought hip hop is dead was too

Neither one of those albums are platinum, SD was a double album so the sales double, but in actuality it sold less than a mil. HHISD, topped out in the 700ks

Shut the fuck up. If the shit is certified platinum by RIAA it's certified platinum, which both SD and HHID are. But you wanna change the rules just like when you said WTT is a solo album huh?

 

[usmarin3]

@usmarin3

No, it's not only context when I'm trying to justify something. It's always context period. If Jay has had consistent sales since 98 how come Hard Knock Life went 5x plat but he hasn't had anything sell even 2 mill since 2003?? Bruh, be real. Sales are different now.

Different artists are gonna be held to different standards based on their conformity to current sound trends and how big of an artist they are. Who said Nas was a superstar rapper? He's not so why would you expect him to sell superstar numbers? I'm a 50 fan but are you seriously questioning how a rapper who went diamond twice would be considered a flop selling 150k?

I mean damn I know 150k ain't great for Nas but for the material he released it's far from terrible. This is the second highest debut of the year. Only Nicki Minaj sold more. Wale had like 3 or 4 singles all over the radio last year and did about the same numbers. Nas outsold Chris Brown, Usher, and Frank Ocean. How much can you expect from this guy? Summer on Smash isn't that good of a commercial song and he hasn't even released it as a single.

Fuck are you trying to say b?

vol 2 sold 5 mil

vol 3 sold 3.5 mil

roc la familia sold 2.5 mil

bp sold 2.5 mil

bp2 sold 2 mil

black album sold 3.5 mil

kingdome come sold 2.1 mil

american gangster sold 1.2 mil

bp3 sold 2 mil

those are all domestic sales, i'm not including overseas sales. how is he not consistent, he is a double platinum artist aside from AG.

How is Nas not a superstar rapper, what you tryna play that underground card now. Didn't IWW sell 2.8 mil, didn't I AM sell 2.1 mil, and a streak of platinum albums up to God Son. Why you tryna play the underground, he isn't a superstar card now. So Nas ain't conforming to trends, that Swizz Beatz track ain't a blatant attempt to get a radio record, that Chris Brown track on his last album ain't a commercial record, and so on.

Chris Brown fanbase died since that Rihanna shit, Frank Ocean is a new artist who sold his album electronically his first week (his sales were affected), and Usher alienated his black fanbase a while ago with his strobe light music.

 

[Wild Self]

150k is fantastic in this day and age, especially for a rapper with practically zero radio appeal. You guys do realize how poor album sales are in 2012 compared to back in the day right? Album sales are less than 10% of what they were in the year 2000. If you look at the sales of this album in relative terms, it's actually one of his most impressive debuts. Nas doesn't make that pop radio shit to sell records. He made a fantastic album with Life is Good (far better than anything Em and Jay have put out the past few years for those who keep brining their names up) and put up solid first week numbers.

Are you haters gonna say Em fell off because Relapse and Recovery sold less than HALF of what the MMLP did first week? Hell Relapse only sold 1/3 of what MMLP did first week. The MMLP has sold nearly 20 million copies worldwide while Recovery is only at 6 million...guess he's fallen off worse than anyone.

See how stupid it is to play that game?

And by the way, Nas was predicted to sell between 115k-125k initally so he did a lot better than was expected. Just sayin'.

They ain't listening.

 

[buttuh_b]

He's not a superstar rapper any more. Yea, maybe back in 98 but not any more. He's not underground either. He's B-list in terms of popularity bruh. YOU KNOW you don't think he's a superstar caliber artist like Wayne, Jay, Kanye, Drake, Eminem. Is he as talented as them? Yes. As popular? No. I'm not sitting here with you trying to say Jay isn't consistent but you comparing Nas current album sales to his best sales would be the same as comparing Jay to Vol. 2 which he clearly isn't close to. It's a dumb ass argument. BP3 hasnt cleared 2 mill by the way.

If you listen to the shit Nas talks about on records like Hero and We Make the World Go Round you'll rethink throwing it into the typical commercial category. It is a commercial attempt sonically but at the same time the content isn't all the way radio friendly. Same with his HHID and SD singles. Summer on Smash you have a good argument but you can only pick 1 or 2 commercial records from Nas albums compared to most other rapper's albums filled with them, especially Jay.

So you think this album with A Queens Story and World's An Addiction is a flop for today's climate and Nas' superstar caliber hit making ability huh?

 

[saracenwire]

Streets disciple is not considered a double album by the Riaa because it was aunder 93 minutes. IT's sales were counted only once.