Let's talk about the soul.

[And_So_It_Burns]

perhaps my last reply was a bit brash on the edges, but I stand by what I said.

I have had the merit to learn from lineages of practical spirituality that have been passed down from teacher to student in an unbroken chain for the past few thousands of years, that have arisen independently of each other.

of said lineages, they require many years of meditation and other practices to experience their aforementioned theological paradigms tangibly.

I could post scientifically reviewed evidence of the results, but you seem set in your ways, diametrically opposed to mine, which is fine. but I do know that no amount of evidence appeases people like yourself so I wont bother.

what I will say is that there have been a few posters on this forum that have reached out, in search of experience... and having been pointed the way to said practices, with the beginning results already having manifested for them.

with this i bid ye adieu.

I just think it's odd you have access to peer reviewed evidence that hasn't received an absurd amount of publicity. If you think it's cohesive and can withstand critique, post it,

 

[BlakkNinja]

To me, the concept of having a soul is a conscious and sub-conscious state of being. Being happy, angry, sad and etc. Having connections to people, places and things. These are examples of a conscious state. Sub-conscious are more based on thought and actions that tend to come and go at times without warning.

 

[peterjageagle]

hey how do i make a new thread have yall ever heard of yash qaraah

 

[Melqart]

hey how do i make a new thread have yall ever heard of yash qaraah

I'm on mobile so I can't tell how many posts u need but u gotta have 300.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

let me just come in to add that.....

we limit ourselves by what we think we understand within the limits we place on ourselves to understand

 

[imgoingtoheavenru?]

We are a triune being just like God. We are made up of:

Body

Soul

Spirit

The soul is our mind, will, and emotions.

The scripture reference which illustrates this division is this:

"Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ." 1 Thessalonians 5:23

The spirit must be born again through the new birth! Once the spirit is born again, the soul can be renewed daily by feeding the mind of Christ which is given to all who believe with the studying of His word, and in turn the body will react differently, walk differently, and speak differently!

Thus you will know the disciples of Jesus Christ by the fruit they bear! A bad tree will not produce good fruit, neither will a good tree produce bad fruit! A true born again believer will act differently, talk differently, respond differently, think differently, and listen differently!

You must be born again! For without the new birth you will never be able to see the kingdom of God, thus you can never seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness because you want nothing to do with it as a dead person walking!

Therefore I plead with you, be reconciled to Christ, who wants to give you the kingdom and build you up! For it is the Fathers good pleasure to give you the kingdom and set you upon a rock in high places in the heavens! Will you come to Him today though? That is the question!

 

[BangEm_Bart]

Our spirit comes from God which was breathed into the dirt of this earth to create physical life. So when a spirit tries to outsmart a massive spirit bigger than space, the planets and the heavens itself in which we come from, it's hysterical and impossible so the meek usually gain more wisdom because their cup is never full with their own knowledge of pride to block out the neverending wisdom that pours in.

 

[papipeligro]

Soul started out in mans first religion and the religion of our slave ancestors in Animism. Its the belief all living things have a soul. Now through the need to peg certain objects with more reverence came animal gods and people tried to make the greatest god which turned into monotheism. Is there a soul? Science says energy never dies. What makes you you is your brain and it made up of energy. If you die that energy transforms into the plants and begins the circle of life anew. So does your memory get retained in that energy,

 

[Ajackson17]

Soul started out in mans first religion and the religion of our slave ancestors in Animism. Its the belief all living things have a soul. Now through the need to peg certain objects with more reverence came animal gods and people tried to make the greatest god which turned into monotheism. Is there a soul? Science says energy never dies. What makes you you is your brain and it made up of energy. If you die that energy transforms into the plants and begins the circle of life anew. So does your memory get retained in that energy,

That is a very good question, we know now that dna is passed through dna and through the children. Funny, how assassin's creed uses this information and goes beyond it. So I'm guessing it will have to be invoked by you.

 

[papipeligro]

Soul started out in mans first religion and the religion of our slave ancestors in Animism. Its the belief all living things have a soul. Now through the need to peg certain objects with more reverence came animal gods and people tried to make the greatest god which turned into monotheism. Is there a soul? Science says energy never dies. What makes you you is your brain and it made up of energy. If you die that energy transforms into the plants and begins the circle of life anew. So does your memory get retained in that energy,

That is a very good question, we know now that dna is passed through dna and through the children. Funny, how assassin's creed uses this information and goes beyond it. So I'm guessing it will have to be invoked by you.

LOL. I never played assassins creed but Anamism where the idea of a soul comes from was the original religion of all the world. Africa,Europe,Asia, and even Ancient North America and South America shared the same religion. The belief in spirits in All things. At some point they started to find spirits in the stars. That changed entire belief system. Even then that religious belief of Astrology was carried through out the world. The Bible was victim of Middle Eastern belief. The bible Believes that ones soul is captured in the blood. This idea is based on the fact that the heart is the seat of the body. The heart being the seat of the body was a huge debate between Greek and Mid Eastern Philosophers. Most of the time the Middle Eastern philosophers got it right. On this one they were wrong.Greek Philosophers were correct. We all know that you can replace the heart and blood of a person and they will still be the same person. The blood of someone was sacred in the bible because their soul was in it. Which is why you ate the blood of your enemies or ate the blood of a tiger to consumer their soul within your's. The bible doesn't have the answer on the subject because it doesn't know where the seat of the soul lies if a soul exists. The Vatican suppressed the original blood transfusions back in 1670 based on the belief the soul was in the blood. Religions originally fought blood transfusions and heart transplants based on Genesis 9:4 and Leviticus 17:10-14. < We all know that that idea is wrong.

 

[Neophyte Wolfgang]

Please, research neuroscience. We have a great explanation for these things.

Who is "we" not every scientist agrees with the mainstream opinions of neuroscience. In fact slowly materialistic science is breaking apart. Even hard nosed skeptics like Michael Shermer have had unexplained things happen to him

Logical rational thinking only come from one part of the brain, what happens when humans use every part of their brain to understand the world and universe inside and outside of them.

You talk as if you have everything figure out, but you are a puppet to your own EGO

 

[Neophyte Wolfgang]

Listen to this scientist argument he breaks it down
http://www.skeptiko.com/274-bernardo-kastrup-why-our-culture-is-materialistic/

 

[Neophyte Wolfgang]

I just think it's odd you have access to peer reviewed evidence that hasn't received an absurd amount of publicity. If you think it's cohesive and can withstand critique, post it,

Most peer reviewed studies are false, fake and fudged and have been for decades. A lot of scientists have agenda how would certain scientist or skeptic get funding...smh
http://therefusers.com/refusers-new...s-completely-false-greenmedinfo/#.VgyYzZdKWyI
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1182327/

 

[KLICHE]

Body is like a car. We jump in the car, and drive it.. we too, jump in the human body, and drive it. Crash it or whatever and when it breaks down beyond repair, we get up outta there.. hopefully.

 

[luke1733]

Many Christians are taught through tradition to believe animals don't have a soul, but this is what the word says:

Ecclesiastes 3:21 - Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth.

As for me, I guess the difference of what you're really asking is the difference between the brain vs a soul. Or difference of the mind vs the soul.

Basically, how can one answer this? I don't know.

I can try to say the soul is that piece of you that makes you-you. Meaning that side that talks to you, tells you what to think, searches for your convictions, fights against your bodies cravings or gives in but it ultimately is that decision maker for the intangible things that effect your behavior. Like a consultant or conscience.

Your mind is 'like' a muscle. Some people's work better than others. Recall ability, memory, understanding things quickly or slowly, observing and calculating, controlling other body movements and in direct link to your soul. In this body the two go together.

A person brain dead that comes back to life is interesting. A person who isn't braindead, but loses all normal mental functions is interesting, people with downsyndrome or brain disorders that effect personality bring questions of the soul to mind.

There is no way to answer the question of if the soul exists. To me, it seems like it does. Emotions seem to border more on the soul level, although even those can be effected with caffeine and a little bit of alcohol.

I can't wait until we do brain transplants. That'll be crazy.

 

[luke1733]

I also think your evidence of the spirit and soul is in the fact that something controls your brain and tells it what to do, what to think, what not to think, what to pay attention to and your brain obeys it. Your arm doesn't do things unless you make it do something, this is the same thing for the brain. In other words what is telling your brain what or who is telling your brain to do?

On another note, proving the soul exists is how I thought on this recently due to your thread.

Depression is not physical. It is a mental state that cannot really be proven. However, we accept it exists even though you can't look in one's body and say there it is. But yet, depression can lead increase tension, contribute to high blood pressure, increase cancers in your body and make you physically (I repeat physically) ill.

This is an invisible emotion a state of the spirit and soul NOT caused by the brain but that part of you that is the soul.

So the state of the soul can effect the body directly without the need of the brain or body. In reverse the soul if happy, and put in a different state that can change one's depression can also physically heal the body and normalize blood pressure, fight cancers, improve your immune system and balance the chemicals in your body. It can do all this without medicine (I believe in medicine and I'm not saying don't use it).

So, if the mind or soul or spirit is capable of effecting the body without being a physical object one can identify then I use these examples as proof of its existence in contrast to the brain.

Soul tells brain what to do and soul can effect your body based on your soul's state. Also the body can also effect the state of one's soul/feelings.

 

[Fosheezy]

Animals have souls. Soul is what makes it a living being. Spirit is what allows you to make a choice between good and bad.

 

[CracceR]

Animals have souls. Soul is what makes it a living being. Spirit is what allows you to make a choice between good and bad.

yea i do think there is a piece of soul even in every insect or plant

few weeks ago i drank ayahuasca and i felt a plant tried to communicate with me breh, that was some trippy ish

 

[Bodhi]

I don't believe a soul, or a mind separate from a body, exists. Mind is an emergent property of a brain/body. Any notion about the soul is purely speculative.

 

[Melqart]

I don't believe a soul, or a mind separate from a body, exists. Mind is an emergent property of a brain/body. Any notion about the soul is purely speculative.

Quite an ironic opinion given your screename. Longtime no see bruh.