And I don't believe carter 3 is waynes best work I'll give that credit to carter 2 but for the example and point I was tryna make carter 3 went better becuz it had more hype wayne was bigger at that time and it did better numbers out the gate so it was a better comparison to grodt
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Let's Be Honest If Get Rich Or Die Trying Is A Classic Then So Is Carter III
5th Letter;6667148 said:GetoBoy;6667136 said:5th Letter;6667094 said:GetoBoy;6667067 said:5th Letter;6667047 said:If the music wasn't that good it would've gotten the Carter 3 treatment. Agree or no?
To be honest idk becuz the hype that 50 had at that time he would of had to drop a complete dud to mess that up I mean I believe if he would of dropped the massacre as his first album but just add in the club to that album with the hype he had we'd probably be calling that album a classic.... I'm not saying the music isn't good becuz it is but is the music classic???
You're backtracking now. Your logic was that GRODT only got classic status because of other factors besides the music. Now granted the Carter 3 wasn't a bad album, but if the collection of music was solid. It'd get the same hype but it wouldn't get classic status kinda like the Carter 3. The Massacre had close to the same hype and no one is calling that a classic.
How am I backtracking my logic didn't change in my reply....the music was good i never denied that but would you call the music classic??? If you do then I have no arguments with that but when most, not all but most, ppl refer to grodt being a classic they give the credit to everything else then they put the music last....
I think the music is classic. There are many albums that had hype that came and went. And no one is giving any album classic status if the music wasn't classic. That's why the Carter. 3 fell short.
Ok I can get with that opinion.....
Mister.ZigZag
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You must be smoking too much of that green crack if you comparing GRODT to C3, WOW. I know i just joined but who the fuck is you? LMFAO
nujerz84;6667164 said:Carter 3 made Wayne A headliner superstar.. before Carter 3 as a solo artist he Was regional.
Bullshit
soulfulcat
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To be honest. I can't listen to grodt... id rather listen to massacre... smoother beats
Muhannad X;6665459 said:All I know is GRODT aged horribly. Listened to it recently and most if not all tracks sound mad dated. I won't deny it's impact but in terms of longevity this album is far from a classic. Hype behind his story and the Eminem affiliation carried alot of that album.
This is some real shit. Maybe I played it out in the beginning but I can hardly even sit through those tracks anymore.
And Carter III is a great album but I wouldn't call it a classic.
5th Letter
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This thread made me listen to GRODT for the first time in years, and it took me back to that era, fuck what y'all talking about it still holds up today. Of course it sounds dated, it came out 11 years ago. 50 was sharp lyrically, dope content and subject matter and great production. 50 delivered.
5th Letter;6668255 said:This thread made me listen to GRODT for the first time in years, and it took me back to that era, fuck what y'all talking about it still holds up today. Of course it sounds dated, it came out 11 years ago. 50 was sharp lyrically, dope content and subject matter and great production. 50 delivered.
That's what made me make this thread.... I was just randomly listening to grodt then I randomly listened to carter 3 I it took me back to both of those time periods when those albums came out....this was never meant as me saying carter 3 is a definitive classic just me tryna understand how an argument can be made that they both fit the same criterias if your grading them on the same scale but one is an undoubtable classic and the other is laughed at if you bring up classic and it doesn't make sense....like I said I don't believe musically either is a classic but that's just my opinion.
32DaysOfInfiniti
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The Carter III had some joints but even the good songs where barely about shit, GRODT was 50's life up to that point, stories, details not to mention unbelievable hype
I learned some shit about 50 from that album, all I learned about Wayne from C3 is you can be an apparent drug addict and niggas will keeping gasing you up like its all good
I learned some shit about 50 from that album, all I learned about Wayne from C3 is you can be an apparent drug addict and niggas will keeping gasing you up like its all good
StillFaggyAF
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5th Letter;6668255 said:This thread made me listen to GRODT for the first time in years, and it took me back to that era, fuck what y'all talking about it still holds up today. Of course it sounds dated, it came out 11 years ago. 50 was sharp lyrically, dope content and subject matter and great production. 50 delivered.
OK but listen to the blueprint or doggystyle. They don't sound dated
5th Letter
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BlackJerryMaguire;6669191 said:5th Letter;6668255 said:This thread made me listen to GRODT for the first time in years, and it took me back to that era, fuck what y'all talking about it still holds up today. Of course it sounds dated, it came out 11 years ago. 50 was sharp lyrically, dope content and subject matter and great production. 50 delivered.
OK but listen to the blueprint or doggystyle. They don't sound dated
They sound dated too. I think the dated argument is used to discredit an album. Illmatic sounds dated but it's still a dope album, it takes you back to that time period.
The Recipe
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Carter 3 wasn't close to a classic, Wayne's hype was unparalleled leading up to the release of C3 but it was severely underwhelming thanks to the leaks. GRODT is a classic.
The Recipe;6669230 said:Carter 3 wasn't close to a classic, Wayne's hype was unparalleled leading up to the release of C3 but it was severely underwhelming thanks to the leaks. GRODT is a classic.
And what makes GRODT a classic???
The Recipe
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GetoBoy;6669309 said:The Recipe;6669230 said:Carter 3 wasn't close to a classic, Wayne's hype was unparalleled leading up to the release of C3 but it was severely underwhelming thanks to the leaks. GRODT is a classic.
And what makes GRODT a classic???
The same thing that makes every other album classic, replay value, cohesiveness, quality tracks etc... if this thread was a Let's Be Honest If Get Rich Or Die Trying Is A Classic Then So Is The Carter, I would be incline to agree but C3 has no replay value and its erratic.
