Legit Reason's to why Eminem is not top 10 Material.........

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BigKegs;4483862 said:
Shit even Biggie did a song w Em. So I guess he's on the team.

Hold the fuck up. Dead Wrong had a featured verse by Eminem, but was released years after Biggie died, and Biggie had nothing to do with that song...so Biggie didn't do a song with Eminem.

Lol @ Biggie being part of that team.

Get Money>>>any D12 song.
 
BigKegs;4483862 said:
hip-hopisalive;4483835 said:
BigKegs;4483830 said:
Yamoley;4474167 said:
ghost!;4474076 said:
Yamoley;4473875 said:
where's his classic?

or, where's his 5 mic album? lol even Kim got a 5 mic album, and the dirty word "Lauryn Hill", she got a 5 mic album? the only thing Eminem recorded that's worth talking about is MMLP, other than that, he should never be mentioned in a top 10 debate.

ok let me pick apart this statement...you ask where's his classic, where's his 5 mics? so and you can correct me on this..the only magazine i knew of that gave out "5 mics" was "the source", and XXL (i think)...well we know the source creditiability went out the window decades ago, and some would say XXL played favorites as well...so you want someone to use this grading system from a magazine or magazines who werent given out fare judgement on an artist and album???.....

and the slim shady lp was a classic...if u cant related, or just a troll then whats the point of you coming in here....like i said before...

most katz on the net dont relate to 90% of the rappers u listen to..u dont sell drugs, u dont ride on 24s, and i seriously doubt you're gangsta....so stop it.

.............

complex magazine look back on the slim shady lp...calling it a rap masterpiece.
http://www.complex.com/music/2012/0...look-back-at-eminems-the-slim-shady-lp/page/2

SSLP was him bitching about his baby mama drama, him abusing drugs, his mommy issues, his kid and him getting his ass whoop by dangelo baily,,,,

he has no classics...he had lyrics for about 3 or 4 yrs but the pop artists he despised, he turned into

Listen to Recovery, again. Lyrical word play unparallelled in today's game. No pop hits at all. Every song has meaning, except for WTP. But that joints fun-"You the baddest little chain with the blades I ever saw

Cold slaw containers, empty straw wrappers and all;You got more junk in your trunk than I do in my car!" How's that for lyrics. Almost every song is a battle rap, but you gotta listen to the words. And how many of you knew that he was talking about Hip Hop and not Kim in " 25yrs to life" ? Funny how alot of you on here dismiss him but don't back it up with anything intangible. Remember "Renegade" ? Even Nas said Em killed Jay Z and he did. If he;s not top 10 then the list does not exist....

SHADYTEAM?!?!?!

Interesting comeback... but I guess thats about all you got to stand on when looking for legit reasons to not put one of the G.O.A.T.'s in your top ten. I guess the Shadyteam consists of the most influential producer in rap's history, Dr. Dre, and the his peers like Litl Wayne, TIP, all of the great lyricist in Slaughterhouse, Jay Z, NAS. Shit even Biggie did a song w Em. So I guess he's on the team. I think my team has alot more knowledge and credibility in the rap game then your NOSHADYTEAM!?!?! does.

ps- No need to respond, like Slim and Slaughterhouse said GAME OVER!!!!

lol are you doing the pretend to not be shadyteam gag again?
 
BigKegs;4483830 said:
Yamoley;4474167 said:
ghost!;4474076 said:
Yamoley;4473875 said:
where's his classic?

or, where's his 5 mic album? lol even Kim got a 5 mic album, and the dirty word "Lauryn Hill", she got a 5 mic album? the only thing Eminem recorded that's worth talking about is MMLP, other than that, he should never be mentioned in a top 10 debate.

ok let me pick apart this statement...you ask where's his classic, where's his 5 mics? so and you can correct me on this..the only magazine i knew of that gave out "5 mics" was "the source", and XXL (i think)...well we know the source creditiability went out the window decades ago, and some would say XXL played favorites as well...so you want someone to use this grading system from a magazine or magazines who werent given out fare judgement on an artist and album???.....

and the slim shady lp was a classic...if u cant related, or just a troll then whats the point of you coming in here....like i said before...

most katz on the net dont relate to 90% of the rappers u listen to..u dont sell drugs, u dont ride on 24s, and i seriously doubt you're gangsta....so stop it.

.............

complex magazine look back on the slim shady lp...calling it a rap masterpiece.
http://www.complex.com/music/2012/0...look-back-at-eminems-the-slim-shady-lp/page/2

SSLP was him bitching about his baby mama drama, him abusing drugs, his mommy issues, his kid and him getting his ass whoop by dangelo baily,,,,

he has no classics...he had lyrics for about 3 or 4 yrs but the pop artists he despised, he turned into

Listen to Recovery, again. Lyrical word play unparallelled in today's game. No pop hits at all. Every song has meaning, except for WTP. But that joints fun-"You the baddest little chain with the blades I ever saw

Cold slaw containers, empty straw wrappers and all;You got more junk in your trunk than I do in my car!" How's that for lyrics. Almost every song is a battle rap, but you gotta listen to the words. And how many of you knew that he was talking about Hip Hop and not Kim in " 25yrs to life" ? Funny how alot of you on here dismiss him but don't back it up with anything intangible. Remember "Renegade" ? Even Nas said Em killed Jay Z and he did. If he;s not top 10 then the list does not exist....

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Why do you not share some of that hate with the plethora of black rappers who publicly degrade, humiliate and disrespect black women more than Eminem ever has?

Seems like you're just looking for trivial illogical reasons to hate the guy unless you do so.

 
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Exactly! How the fuck is emnem racist when he tries so hard to be accepted into black culture. I hate to say this shit, but there's a ton of racist niggas on this board....I hate racism, b.
 
SuperstarCole;4505578 said:
What about the people who hate him because he is wack?

That's legit. U don't like his music, u don't like it.

Queens Finest;4505579 said:
Exactly! How the fuck is emnem racist when he tries so hard to be accepted into black culture. I hate to say this shit, but there's a ton of racist niggas on this board....I hate racism, b.

eminem has done a lot more for black individuals than many on this forum has - he's helped them feed their families and get out the hood

Soloman the Wise;4505585 said:
for the merger...

why the hell did this get merged.. this has nothing to do with eminem being goat, i just want to know if people who hate eminem for disrespecting black women (Gee757) also hate black rappers that disrespect black women
 
Queens Finest;4505579 said:
Exactly! How the fuck is emnem racist when he tries so hard to be accepted into black culture. I hate to say this shit, but there's a ton of racist niggas on this board....I hate racism, b.

smh@ people alwayz sayin this foolish shit it dont matter if fem made a few houseniggaz & muuunkeez rich hez still a RACIST CRACKA werd 2 JIMMY BURWELL!

RodrigueZz;4505590 said:
why the hell did this get merged.. this has nothing to do with eminem being goat, i just want to know if people who hate eminem for disrespecting black women (Gee757) also hate black rappers that disrespect black women

1st of feminem is WHITE so he cant diss blk people & think hez gonna make a LIVIN off of us imean that should b COMMON SENSE fem can diss his momma but not my blk mom....2nd not only did feminem make racist tapez shittin on blk women & tried 2 hide da shit but this cracka had da nerve 2 diss a BLK WOMAN(lauryn hill) ova a RUMOR of her bein racist back n 99...so FUK THAT CRACKA anybody that is blk & findz nuttin wrong wit that is a stupid muuunkee azz housenigga cuz feminem was wrong fa dissin lauryn hill when da whole time that cracka knew he had racist tapez dissin blk women...
 
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ROFL..GUY;4116542 said:
NothingButTheTruth said:
My answer would be because he's not good enough or in other words, I can easily name 10 better emcees.

Btw, what makes Eminem better than all of the guys before him who have inspired his rap style or rappers with similar styles?

What makes Em better than Royce?

What makes Eminem better than Pharoahe Monch?

What makes Eminem better than Canibus?

What makes Eminem better than Redman?

What makes Eminem better than Masta Ace?

... It's definitely not catalog, because those pop singles Em releases automatically stops any of his albums from being great, let alone classic. (Take any of the universal hip-hop classics and place an Em single on it. That shit would drop at least 1mic.) It's not creativity, because those dudes I named are some of the most creative emcees out there. It's not longevity, because all of those people are still releasing albums to this date. And we all know it's not lyrics, because Em ain't like that with lyrics when speaking from an all-time standpoint, so what is it?

all those rappers are just as talented MC's as Marshall....

BUT THEY CANT WRITE SONGS as well as EMINEM... theres your ANSWER@!!.... thats why the rappers you posted are underground RAPPERS..... and not ARTIST... they cant write songs................

I'm guessing you haven't heard Masta Ace, Redman or Pharoahe Monche full catalog ? All of them are excellent writers !! They are true artist. Just because you don't see videos or hear their songs doesn't mean they don't measure up. Honestly, neither of the 3 are Underground artists.
 
RodrigueZz;4505590 said:
SuperstarCole;4505578 said:
What about the people who hate him because he is wack?

That's legit. U don't like his music, u don't like it.

Queens Finest;4505579 said:
Exactly! How the fuck is emnem racist when he tries so hard to be accepted into black culture. I hate to say this shit, but there's a ton of racist niggas on this board....I hate racism, b.

eminem has done a lot more for black individuals than many on this forum has - he's helped them feed their families and get out the hood

Soloman the Wise;4505585 said:
for the merger...

why the hell did this get merged.. this has nothing to do with eminem being goat, i just want to know if people who hate eminem for disrespecting black women (Gee757) also hate black rappers that disrespect black women

because it is the same shit over and over so while the title was different the conversations are not...
 
southernmade;4115669 said:
When people complain about his subject matter....what else do you want him to talk about? Just because you can't relate doesn't mean others can't. He didnt sell drugs so trap rap is out....wasn't out there "banging" (or claiming to be) so the super gangsta music is out.....he's not flashy so your not gonna get the balling shit from him....lol this is a real question, what do yall want dude to talk about?

I think the fact that he's been honest and told his story is terrific for rap. My problem with Eminem is that his shit is redundant. You can listen to MMLP and never have to listen to another Eminem album again. It's drug use, silly redneck angst, and him wanting to kill his mom and and Kim. Did I cover everything???
 
genocidecutter;4506456 said:
Someone should make a thread similar for Tech N9ne next

I think his only reasons for not being top 10 is that he's not really known to the mainstream/casual fans, and he hasn't dropped that classic album that is widely considered classic, i.e. blueprint, illmatic, me against the world, ready to die, death certificate, etc.

 
damn I see a whole lot of on subject posts someone seems salty the tide turned on them...

The irony of this thread is trying to invalidate a persons reasons for disliking Eminem and not considering him in the top 10 by making not being a fan a disqualifier. Feeling eminem is wack, repetative, closet racist, Screechy obnoxious voiced,culturally out of step or the litany of other reason a lot of feel he is not worthy are all legit reasons to say he is not top 10 or even top 40 hiphop material. Everyone does not have to be on the bandwagon, and for those that are not it does not make them just irrational haters because they are not...
 
GeE-757;4506055 said:
Queens Finest;4505579 said:
Exactly! How the fuck is emnem racist when he tries so hard to be accepted into black culture. I hate to say this shit, but there's a ton of racist niggas on this board....I hate racism, b.

smh@ people alwayz sayin this foolish shit it dont matter if fem made a few houseniggaz & muuunkeez rich hez still a RACIST CRACKA werd 2 JIMMY BURWELL!

RodrigueZz;4505590 said:
why the hell did this get merged.. this has nothing to do with eminem being goat, i just want to know if people who hate eminem for disrespecting black women (Gee757) also hate black rappers that disrespect black women

1st of feminem is WHITE so he cant diss blk people & think hez gonna make a LIVIN off of us imean that should b COMMON SENSE fem can diss his momma but not my blk mom....2nd not only did feminem make racist tapez shittin on blk women & tried 2 hide da shit but this cracka had da nerve 2 diss a BLK WOMAN(lauryn hill) ova a RUMOR of her bein racist back n 99...so FUK THAT CRACKA anybody that is blk & findz nuttin wrong wit that is a stupid muuunkee azz housenigga cuz feminem was wrong fa dissin lauryn hill when da whole time that cracka knew he had racist tapez dissin blk women...

Black people diss other groups of people all the time and make a living off of it - comedians, rappers, etc. Why is it any less wrong when black people do it, or any more wrong when white people do it?

Wrong is wrong and if you're going to dislike someone for doing something that is wrong then be consistent with it and dislike other people who also behave that way. Do not just say you hate them for that reason to hide the fact that you only hate them for being white and being more successful.
 
Eminem is Top 10 no doubt considering lyrics wordplay and etc but I wouldnt even compare him to current rappers so I wouldnt even add him to the list I think beyond any current rapper out sort of like Jay-Z and Nas ......He has fell off to a certain extent but I dont see anybody favorite rapper that wants to wake that sleeping giant plus current rappers are ass. Its funny how ppl on IC call Eminem racist but spew that same racist shit on here
 
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