Legit Reason's to why Eminem is not top 10 Material.........

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H-Rap 180;4475602 said:
ghost!;4475505 said:
H-Rap 180;4475364 said:
Matter of fact I listed 20 of the greatest rappers of all-time, now how many rappers on that list have a song with Emenim on it?

ha ha at this fony.....

H-Rap 180 wrote: »

First off let me share my current top 20:

1.) Nassir (rapped on a couple of tracks that was produce by him)

2.) Tupac (died)

3.) Rakim

4.) Ice Cube

5.) Andre 3000

6.) Scarface

7.) Big Daddy Kane

8.) LL Cool J

9.) JayZ (did u forget?)

10.) Black Thought (was in the BET cypher with him)

11.) Ghostface Killah

12.) KRS-One

15.) Big Pun (dead)

16.) Notorious B.I.G (dead)

17.) Common

18.) Slick Rick

19.) Snoop Dogg (did u forget?)

20.) Kool G Rap

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please let me turn it back around on you...out of that list..how many have each of these artist done with each other?

example LL...emm, BIG...maybe snoop? ahh im drawing a blank with anyone else on this list...please correct me if i'm wrong..

You addresses the question but you didn't answer the question.

17 alive rappers how many of them put Emenim on their albums/songs/singles.

It's a family affair with most rappers that's why "Smile" feat Scarface & Tupac is a classics

"Gangsta Party" Snoop Dogg feat Tupac

"I Do" JayZ, Jeezy, & Andre 3000

Kool G Rap & Nas

Queens Finest;4475532 said:
Real talk, ya'll only hate Eminem becasue he's a white boy..lets be real

The only reason you people hate on LIL Wayne is because he's a Black man.

see the names with edits next to them, that's me answering the question..and the artist you named with calabos, are only averaging about 2 other artist on your list..just the same as em...your question has been answered. (actually thanks to another poster) em did get on a joint with krs-one and kool G rap!...thanks i forgot about that joint..that makes 4!!

krs-one, kool-g rap, jay z, and snoop. He was in the BET cypher with" black thought". was asked to be on biggie "dead wrong" and killed his verse. produced a track that nas chose to be on....do u feel the since to quit now???

and like u said it's a family affair with most rappers..so why the hell would EM been on so many other artists joints on your list.....especially if they arent on each others??

your question made no sense and just blew up in your face. the other part of your orig. post i will not entertain because it was moronic.
 
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Squall;4475680 said:
SuperstarCole;4475662 said:
Why isn't eminem top 10?


Em rhyme crazy words on track, even tho the album was god-awful.


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LMAO SMH Damn FACK is the worst shit I ever heard had to be on E when he made that shit lol

White Boy Humor @ its worst
 
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Damn, looking at my Top 20 makes me appreciate Nas even more as Top 10 material & the Goat,

These are the rappers he has songs with off my list:

Ice Cube

Tupac (posthumous)

Big Pun (posthumous)

Notorious B.I.G (posthumous)

Rakim

Scarface

KRS-One

Snoop Dogg

Andre 3000

Common

Kool G Rap

KRS One

Big Daddy Kane

Slick Rick

Common

JayZ

Ghostface Killah

17 out of 19 isn't too bad, I guess Queens ego' prevented a LL Cool J collab.....Black Thought + Nas would be epic for the culture.
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I truly enjoy when the artists whos music I enjoy the most do songs and performances together, the energy is electric.
 
genocidecutter;4475292 said:
buttuh_b;4475188 said:
H-Rap 180;4474276 said:
First off let me share my current top 20:

1.) Nassir

2.) Tupac

3.) Rakim

4.) Ice Cube

5.) Andre 3000

6.) Scarface

7.) Big Daddy Kane

8.) LL Cool J

9.) JayZ

10.) Black Thought

11.) Ghostface Killah

12.) KRS-One

15.) Big Pun

16.) Notorious B.I.G

17.) Common

18.) Slick Rick

19.) Snoop Dogg

20.) Kool G Rap

I guess if you are from a foreign culture or community instead of the culture and community that HipHop was born out of you might actually have Emenim in your Top 10, I was born and baptized in the culture and I doubt if he's even in my Top 200.

Rappers like Q-Tip, Mos Def, Chuck D, & Gza get lost in the shuffle a lot of times by people who seem to only listen to the artists associated with Shady records.

People forget about M.C Lyte, Lauryn Hill & Queen Latifah but I have them ranked over Emenim.

Jadakiss, Fabolous, Raekwon, T.I., Kurrupt, Big Boi: people tend to forget them also.

And how could we forget about Melle Mell?

I think people are just joking-around and being sarcastic, you wouldn't seriously have Emenim on a Top 10 list would you?

Powerful post. I have the same top 3. Similar top 30-40 with placement being interchangeable. Don't see how Eminem belongs close to a top 10 based on music quality.

You think Wayne is better than Tech Nine. You lost your right to say whos top ten or not

My top 10 >>>>> the juggalo bullshit you listen to. You been on my dick, wacking all my posts on the low. I'll break your fuckin jaw faggot.
 
Ghost is a fuckin idiot. He says Illmatic is Nas' only classic yet Eminem has a classic? Fuck you listening to b? It Was Written, Stillmatic, Lost Tapes, I Am.., Untitled all shit on any album Eminem has ever made.
 
Squall;4476143 said:
buttuh_b;4476133 said:
Ghost is a fuckin idiot. He says Illmatic is Nas' only classic yet Eminem has a classic? Fuck you listening to b? It Was Written, Stillmatic, Lost Tapes, I Am.., Untitled all shit on any album Eminem has ever made.

I agree with this but Em would still murder Nas on a track, tho.

What type of logic is this? Nas can repeatedly make better albums then em but he can't destroy said wack rapper talking about stuffing dead bodies in a shoe box?
 
buttuh_b;4476125 said:
genocidecutter;4475292 said:
buttuh_b;4475188 said:
H-Rap 180;4474276 said:
First off let me share my current top 20:

1.) Nassir

2.) Tupac

3.) Rakim

4.) Ice Cube

5.) Andre 3000

6.) Scarface

7.) Big Daddy Kane

8.) LL Cool J

9.) JayZ

10.) Black Thought

11.) Ghostface Killah

12.) KRS-One

15.) Big Pun

16.) Notorious B.I.G

17.) Common

18.) Slick Rick

19.) Snoop Dogg

20.) Kool G Rap

I guess if you are from a foreign culture or community instead of the culture and community that HipHop was born out of you might actually have Emenim in your Top 10, I was born and baptized in the culture and I doubt if he's even in my Top 200.

Rappers like Q-Tip, Mos Def, Chuck D, & Gza get lost in the shuffle a lot of times by people who seem to only listen to the artists associated with Shady records.

People forget about M.C Lyte, Lauryn Hill & Queen Latifah but I have them ranked over Emenim.

Jadakiss, Fabolous, Raekwon, T.I., Kurrupt, Big Boi: people tend to forget them also.

And how could we forget about Melle Mell?

I think people are just joking-around and being sarcastic, you wouldn't seriously have Emenim on a Top 10 list would you?

Powerful post. I have the same top 3. Similar top 30-40 with placement being interchangeable. Don't see how Eminem belongs close to a top 10 based on music quality.

You think Wayne is better than Tech Nine. You lost your right to say whos top ten or not

My top 10 >>>>> the juggalo bullshit you listen to. You been on my dick, wacking all my posts on the low. I'll break your fuckin jaw faggot.

Its called horrorcore you fuckin moron
 
ghost!;4475340 said:
nycest_1;4475263 said:
nas - longevity and consistency

this is the one artist i wanted to debate for debate sake. Not sayign i'm not a fan, not calling you a troll or saying eminem is the goat or anything.

but consistency? Nas has always rapped about "life in the projects, champagne simping, how intelligent is subject matter can be...and that's great..i'm a fan..but nas has ONE classic album. illmatic...he has a few songs sprinkled here in there but has ONE classic album...even his foe at the time jay z spoke about that....he's had hot joints no doubt...BUT ONE classic album

now eminem despite what others said on here, has at least one classic album (you can argue whatever else) and a few joints sparkled here and there..and his subject matter for him has stayed pretty much the same as well to who he is, as similair to nas

again i dont expect nor should nas fans to like him, or em fans to like nas if that's the case i really dont care who likes who..free country listen to whoever and like whoever u like..but something that gets over looked..

alot of rappers that are on katz list, follow the same suit as em, just their approach is diff.

you also mention how busta rhymes is as colorful as em when he makes his videos, andre 3000 dresses weird, even going back to "melle melle and the furious five"...look at his crew and see how they were dressing and acting..but they all can get away with it, em doesnt? And Em defininately aint the only rapper to say some real questionable sh*t in a rap, or subject matter. It's music..i can go on for years about questionable subject matter by artist

i aint trying to disagree with anything you said. i just wanted to point something out..

i'm done with this subject though.

consistency isnt about subject material though.

yeah nas switched up to the jewels and hate me now records, but all his albums have a dose of creativity.

a dose of heartfelt hood shit. a pro black perspective. some story telling as well as some of the usual rah rah braggadoccio shit.

yeah nas has 1 maybe 2 classics (alot of people like it was written and most hip hop fans i know own it)

nas and eminem both changed subject matter as they got older as it should be but on ems first and second albums he had his creative subject tracks. his singles (those don't count for harsh criticism) his stories and his straight spittin

but like wit nas when he did shit like rewind (a story track and a concept) em went on to do some retarded shit. its opinion but i couldnt fuck wit that sayin weird shit jus to say weird shit.

to me he really started fallin into that lazy mode which was more annoying because i've seen the concepts em was capable of.

i also didnt hold it against em for dressing weird or anything, just for being lazy with it.

its like em either got comfy or disinterested in the rap game

any nigga that is a fan of em knows the potential is there (even non fans have to admit the talent) but the nigga dead ass phoned it in and made aloooooooooot more filler tracks than gems.

like i said. busta rhymes

 
buttuh_b;4476133 said:
Ghost is a fuckin idiot. He says Illmatic is Nas' only classic yet Eminem has a classic? Fuck you listening to b? It Was Written, Stillmatic, Lost Tapes, God's Son, Untitled all shit on any album Eminem has ever made.

Fixed... I Am is dope, but not fuckin with Em's 1st 3 joints. And God's Son IMO is Nas's best album without "matic" in the title.
 
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icecoldstew;4476167 said:
SSLP, MMLP, TES>>>I Am, Nastrudamus, God's son, Hip Hop Is Dead @Buttuh

Doggy, Nas 5 best albums are better than any albums Eminem have ever made. Eminem doesn't have any classics. Those shits have no replay value.
 
Queens Finest;4475532 said:
Real talk, ya'll only hate Eminem becasue he's a white boy..lets be real

don't come wit this weak ass shit. cuz the flipside argument that he only sells cuz hes white isn't flyin either.

so if u open that door u are admitting that em only sells because of his skin color

 
icecoldstew;4476167 said:
SSLP, MMLP, TES>>>I Am, Nastrudamus, God's son, Hip Hop Is Dead @Buttuh

lol again thats a minority opinion but its an opinion it can't be considered wrong

but nas new material destroys eminems new material
 
buttuh_b;4476224 said:
icecoldstew;4476167 said:
SSLP, MMLP, TES>>>I Am, Nastrudamus, God's son, Hip Hop Is Dead @Buttuh

Doggy, Nas 5 best albums are better than any albums Eminem have ever made. Eminem doesn't have any classics. Those shits have no replay value.

This is coming from a fan of Young Money BTW
 
I only think The Em Show is classic. Fuck a replay value. I love Illmatic just like the next nigga but I play that shit once every 6 months and the same goes for every other album I think is classic. And I disagree with your opinion on Nas's 5 best albums are better then all of Em's.
 

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