Legit Reason's to why Eminem is not top 10 Material.........

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It's funny how this HLF dude would shit on Dretox, but at the same time would throw on his cape and fly to Eminem's rescue when posters don't praise his name...

smh....Em is the highest selling rapper ever. He raped and pillaged the rap game, yet you cry about why he isn't part of rap's elite? Tell Marshall to make a classic, which he's incapable of. If he manages to drop a timeless record, maybe he'd be in the top 50
 
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Yamoley;4116239 said:
It's funny how this HLF dude would shit on Dretox, but at the same time would throw on his cape and fly to Eminem's rescue when posters don't praise his name...

smh....Em is the highest selling rapper ever. He raped and pillaged the rap game, yet you cry about why he isn't part of rap's elite? Tell Marshall to make a classic, which he's incapable of. If he manages to drop a timeless record, maybe he'd be in the top 50

Shut yo hating ass up. If you wanna reply to my thread do it in the manner I asked.
 
OutlawNumberUno;4116267 said:
shady team thread. wtf is up with the site ? shit looks all different.

Its not a Shadyteam thread. Dont disrespect me like that yo lol

Site got revamped.
 
HLF;4116262 said:
Yamoley;4116239 said:
It's funny how this HLF dude would shit on Dretox, but at the same time would throw on his cape and fly to Eminem's rescue when posters don't praise his name...

smh....Em is the highest selling rapper ever. He raped and pillaged the rap game, yet you cry about why he isn't part of rap's elite? Tell Marshall to make a classic, which he's incapable of. If he manages to drop a timeless record, maybe he'd be in the top 50

Shut yo hating ass up. If you wanna reply to my thread do it in the manner I asked.

Call it what you want, but I still find it crazy a man of color would vehemently defend Marshall's actions no matter what....I get it, you're "white washed", this is the only position of power you will hold throughout your life, I'm not gonna fuck that up for you....god speed my nigga...
 
HLF;4116216 said:
Soloman the Wise;4116205 said:
I am not a fan of Dude so I look from a outside in view of economic gain and relevance. Labels sign new artists to diversify and draw new fans while still giving attention to their money makers. He signed people witha buzz that help him regain relevance and again command more from shows then again like any businessman he also makes money off of his new investments the shit is not rocket science fam. If it was just for HipHop he would take no cut of anything from them and do it just for HipHop cause he so loves the culture. But you I know in the real world that is not the case he is like many through out history is breaking bread on the backs of others...

Duh, so your opinion is kinda irrelevant

Nobody does that

So because I am not a fan my opinion does not matter? Where does that qualifier come into playat inthis thread premise? Your whole position has been one based on discounting other opinions and facts. You want views to be excluded based on whether they like or dislike eminem but you raised the question of why people would not hold him in a high spot so asked why we scrutinize and do not hold him in the same regard as you. Now either you want the answers or not. You basically have created a position of absolute where no one can respond because we must exclude out personal collection of feelings, opinions and facts. As a non fan I am not biased by being induated with his music I can and do speak objectively while presentingto you logical reasons not only for him being a racist in part or at the heart but also for signing other acts and I base this on rudimentry industry knowledge. I do not get the sparkles in the eyes for these kats like wome yall do so I say it honestly and frankly fam love it or hate it...
 
Yamoley;4116312 said:
HLF;4116262 said:
Yamoley;4116239 said:
It's funny how this HLF dude would shit on Dretox, but at the same time would throw on his cape and fly to Eminem's rescue when posters don't praise his name...

smh....Em is the highest selling rapper ever. He raped and pillaged the rap game, yet you cry about why he isn't part of rap's elite? Tell Marshall to make a classic, which he's incapable of. If he manages to drop a timeless record, maybe he'd be in the top 50

Shut yo hating ass up. If you wanna reply to my thread do it in the manner I asked.

Call it what you want, but I still find it crazy a man of color would vehemently defend Marshall's actions no matter what....I get it, you're "white washed", this is the only position of power you will hold throughout your life, I'm not gonna fuck that up for you....god speed my nigga...

Right, God forbid a man of color like Eminem's music. Weirdo
 
Soloman the Wise;4116317 said:
HLF;4116216 said:
Soloman the Wise;4116205 said:
I am not a fan of Dude so I look from a outside in view of economic gain and relevance. Labels sign new artists to diversify and draw new fans while still giving attention to their money makers. He signed people witha buzz that help him regain relevance and again command more from shows then again like any businessman he also makes money off of his new investments the shit is not rocket science fam. If it was just for HipHop he would take no cut of anything from them and do it just for HipHop cause he so loves the culture. But you I know in the real world that is not the case he is like many through out history is breaking bread on the backs of others...

Duh, so your opinion is kinda irrelevant

Nobody does that

So because I am not a fan my opinion does not matter? Where does that qualifier come into playat inthis thread premise? Your whole position has been one based on discounting other opinions and facts. You want views to be excluded based on whether they like or dislike eminem but you raised the question of why people would not hold him in a high spot so asked why we scrutinize and do not hold him in the same regard as you. Now either you want the answers or not. You basically have created a position of absolute where no one can respond because we must exclude out personal collection of feelings, opinions and facts. As a non fan I am not biased by being induated with his music I can and do speak objectively while presentingto you logical reasons not only for him being a racist in part or at the heart but also for signing other acts and I base this on rudimentry industry knowledge. I do not get the sparkles in the eyes for these kats like wome yall do so I say it honestly and frankly fam love it or hate it...

Hold on playa, I have already respected others opinions of why he's not in there top 10. You are biased because you think he's a racist. I think thats a cop out but whatever. Agree to disagree.
 
i wonder how many rappers that co sign him know about those tapes though ? Its weird people would still co sign him after that.

IMHO em has 3 good album but rest of his shit is overrated. Hes still cool though.
 
HLF;4116339 said:
Soloman the Wise;4116317 said:
HLF;4116216 said:
Soloman the Wise;4116205 said:
I am not a fan of Dude so I look from a outside in view of economic gain and relevance. Labels sign new artists to diversify and draw new fans while still giving attention to their money makers. He signed people witha buzz that help him regain relevance and again command more from shows then again like any businessman he also makes money off of his new investments the shit is not rocket science fam. If it was just for HipHop he would take no cut of anything from them and do it just for HipHop cause he so loves the culture. But you I know in the real world that is not the case he is like many through out history is breaking bread on the backs of others...

Duh, so your opinion is kinda irrelevant

Nobody does that

So because I am not a fan my opinion does not matter? Where does that qualifier come into playat inthis thread premise? Your whole position has been one based on discounting other opinions and facts. You want views to be excluded based on whether they like or dislike eminem but you raised the question of why people would not hold him in a high spot so asked why we scrutinize and do not hold him in the same regard as you. Now either you want the answers or not. You basically have created a position of absolute where no one can respond because we must exclude out personal collection of feelings, opinions and facts. As a non fan I am not biased by being induated with his music I can and do speak objectively while presentingto you logical reasons not only for him being a racist in part or at the heart but also for signing other acts and I base this on rudimentry industry knowledge. I do not get the sparkles in the eyes for these kats like wome yall do so I say it honestly and frankly fam love it or hate it...

Hold on playa, I have already respected others opinions of why he's not in there top 10. You are biased because you think he's a racist. I think thats a cop out but whatever. Agree to disagree.

I think once a child molester always a child molestor once a rapist always a rapist once a racist always a racist once an addict always an addict. Can you be a recovering whatever sure maybe he is a recovering racist and only exploits balck music superficially in lyrics or maybe he got smarter like raicsts of the past keeps his worforce happy while still staying seperate. Plenty of closet racists ou there that have to for fiscal reasons work with people they would prefer not to...

Not a cop just one legitmate reason many of his detractors hold against him, then you can go into the screachy whiny voice or the incessant talk of violence or insults against his mom or ex or some pop star that in most case will not defend themselves(Mariah held her own LOL). His limited range in subject matter and corny topics when not being a psycho on wax. All legitmate reasons to not hold him in esteem or a elite spot. But like you said to each his own I see bigger pictures then the average fan...
 
Soloman the Wise;4116376 said:
HLF;4116339 said:
Soloman the Wise;4116317 said:
HLF;4116216 said:
Soloman the Wise;4116205 said:
I am not a fan of Dude so I look from a outside in view of economic gain and relevance. Labels sign new artists to diversify and draw new fans while still giving attention to their money makers. He signed people witha buzz that help him regain relevance and again command more from shows then again like any businessman he also makes money off of his new investments the shit is not rocket science fam. If it was just for HipHop he would take no cut of anything from them and do it just for HipHop cause he so loves the culture. But you I know in the real world that is not the case he is like many through out history is breaking bread on the backs of others...

Duh, so your opinion is kinda irrelevant

Nobody does that

So because I am not a fan my opinion does not matter? Where does that qualifier come into playat inthis thread premise? Your whole position has been one based on discounting other opinions and facts. You want views to be excluded based on whether they like or dislike eminem but you raised the question of why people would not hold him in a high spot so asked why we scrutinize and do not hold him in the same regard as you. Now either you want the answers or not. You basically have created a position of absolute where no one can respond because we must exclude out personal collection of feelings, opinions and facts. As a non fan I am not biased by being induated with his music I can and do speak objectively while presentingto you logical reasons not only for him being a racist in part or at the heart but also for signing other acts and I base this on rudimentry industry knowledge. I do not get the sparkles in the eyes for these kats like wome yall do so I say it honestly and frankly fam love it or hate it...

Hold on playa, I have already respected others opinions of why he's not in there top 10. You are biased because you think he's a racist. I think thats a cop out but whatever. Agree to disagree.

I think once a child molester always a child molestor once a rapist always a rapist once a racist always a racist once an addict always an addict. Can you be a recovering whatever sure maybe he is a recovering racist and only exploits balck music superficially in lyrics or maybe he got smarter like raicsts of the past keeps his worforce happy while still staying seperate. Plenty of closet racists ou there that have to for fiscal reasons work with people they would prefer not to...

Not a cop just one legitmate reason many of his detractors hold against him, then you can go into the screachy whiny voice or the incessant talk of violence or insults against his mom or ex or some pop star that in most case will not defend themselves(Mariah held her own LOL). His limited range in subject matter and corny topics when not being a psycho on wax. All legitmate reasons to not hold him in esteem or a elite spot. But like you said to each his own I see bigger pictures then the average fan...

U cant be a legit racist as a teenager. Thats a fact, I dont care what u think. smh at u comparing a child molester to a teenager who made a mistake. Thats why I dont take you and a handfull of other posters post serious about Em. Carry on pimp.

You couldve easily said what you said what you said in your 2nd paragraph about him and I wouldve given you the respect quote but naaaah mr militant had to jump in lol all good homie.

 
HLF;4116410 said:
Soloman the Wise;4116376 said:
HLF;4116339 said:
Soloman the Wise;4116317 said:
HLF;4116216 said:
Soloman the Wise;4116205 said:
I am not a fan of Dude so I look from a outside in view of economic gain and relevance. Labels sign new artists to diversify and draw new fans while still giving attention to their money makers. He signed people witha buzz that help him regain relevance and again command more from shows then again like any businessman he also makes money off of his new investments the shit is not rocket science fam. If it was just for HipHop he would take no cut of anything from them and do it just for HipHop cause he so loves the culture. But you I know in the real world that is not the case he is like many through out history is breaking bread on the backs of others...

Duh, so your opinion is kinda irrelevant

Nobody does that

So because I am not a fan my opinion does not matter? Where does that qualifier come into playat inthis thread premise? Your whole position has been one based on discounting other opinions and facts. You want views to be excluded based on whether they like or dislike eminem but you raised the question of why people would not hold him in a high spot so asked why we scrutinize and do not hold him in the same regard as you. Now either you want the answers or not. You basically have created a position of absolute where no one can respond because we must exclude out personal collection of feelings, opinions and facts. As a non fan I am not biased by being induated with his music I can and do speak objectively while presentingto you logical reasons not only for him being a racist in part or at the heart but also for signing other acts and I base this on rudimentry industry knowledge. I do not get the sparkles in the eyes for these kats like wome yall do so I say it honestly and frankly fam love it or hate it...

Hold on playa, I have already respected others opinions of why he's not in there top 10. You are biased because you think he's a racist. I think thats a cop out but whatever. Agree to disagree.

I think once a child molester always a child molestor once a rapist always a rapist once a racist always a racist once an addict always an addict. Can you be a recovering whatever sure maybe he is a recovering racist and only exploits balck music superficially in lyrics or maybe he got smarter like raicsts of the past keeps his worforce happy while still staying seperate. Plenty of closet racists ou there that have to for fiscal reasons work with people they would prefer not to...

Not a cop just one legitmate reason many of his detractors hold against him, then you can go into the screachy whiny voice or the incessant talk of violence or insults against his mom or ex or some pop star that in most case will not defend themselves(Mariah held her own LOL). His limited range in subject matter and corny topics when not being a psycho on wax. All legitmate reasons to not hold him in esteem or a elite spot. But like you said to each his own I see bigger pictures then the average fan...

U cant be a legit racist as a teenager. Thats a fact, I dont care what u think. smh at u comparing a child molester to a teenager who made a mistake. Thats why I dont take you and a handfull of other posters post serious about Em. Carry on pimp.

You couldve easily said what you said what you said in your 2nd paragraph about him and I wouldve given you the respect quote but naaaah mr militant had to jump in lol all good homie.

What the hell you mean you cannot be alegit racists as a teenager that is like saying you cannot be a legit Gangbanger as a teenager or a Legit Dealer or a legit pimp or a legit rapper or worker etc. Your argument would hold more wait for a preteen a teenager is pretty engrained in their thought processes at that point. can they reform or be in recovery fromthe past detrimental mentalities yes but that does not mean they do most just become functioning as they gather more knowledge on how to maintain both the world around them and their views. Nothing militant about it I speak from a social and spiritual side also which again to me dude lacks legitmacy in those areas...
 
Soloman the Wise;4116429 said:
HLF;4116410 said:
Soloman the Wise;4116376 said:
HLF;4116339 said:
Soloman the Wise;4116317 said:
HLF;4116216 said:
Soloman the Wise;4116205 said:
I am not a fan of Dude so I look from a outside in view of economic gain and relevance. Labels sign new artists to diversify and draw new fans while still giving attention to their money makers. He signed people witha buzz that help him regain relevance and again command more from shows then again like any businessman he also makes money off of his new investments the shit is not rocket science fam. If it was just for HipHop he would take no cut of anything from them and do it just for HipHop cause he so loves the culture. But you I know in the real world that is not the case he is like many through out history is breaking bread on the backs of others...

Duh, so your opinion is kinda irrelevant

Nobody does that

So because I am not a fan my opinion does not matter? Where does that qualifier come into playat inthis thread premise? Your whole position has been one based on discounting other opinions and facts. You want views to be excluded based on whether they like or dislike eminem but you raised the question of why people would not hold him in a high spot so asked why we scrutinize and do not hold him in the same regard as you. Now either you want the answers or not. You basically have created a position of absolute where no one can respond because we must exclude out personal collection of feelings, opinions and facts. As a non fan I am not biased by being induated with his music I can and do speak objectively while presentingto you logical reasons not only for him being a racist in part or at the heart but also for signing other acts and I base this on rudimentry industry knowledge. I do not get the sparkles in the eyes for these kats like wome yall do so I say it honestly and frankly fam love it or hate it...

Hold on playa, I have already respected others opinions of why he's not in there top 10. You are biased because you think he's a racist. I think thats a cop out but whatever. Agree to disagree.

I think once a child molester always a child molestor once a rapist always a rapist once a racist always a racist once an addict always an addict. Can you be a recovering whatever sure maybe he is a recovering racist and only exploits balck music superficially in lyrics or maybe he got smarter like raicsts of the past keeps his worforce happy while still staying seperate. Plenty of closet racists ou there that have to for fiscal reasons work with people they would prefer not to...

Not a cop just one legitmate reason many of his detractors hold against him, then you can go into the screachy whiny voice or the incessant talk of violence or insults against his mom or ex or some pop star that in most case will not defend themselves(Mariah held her own LOL). His limited range in subject matter and corny topics when not being a psycho on wax. All legitmate reasons to not hold him in esteem or a elite spot. But like you said to each his own I see bigger pictures then the average fan...

U cant be a legit racist as a teenager. Thats a fact, I dont care what u think. smh at u comparing a child molester to a teenager who made a mistake. Thats why I dont take you and a handfull of other posters post serious about Em. Carry on pimp.

You couldve easily said what you said what you said in your 2nd paragraph about him and I wouldve given you the respect quote but naaaah mr militant had to jump in lol all good homie.

What the hell you mean you cannot be alegit racists as a teenager that is like saying you cannot be a legit Gangbanger as a teenager or a Legit Dealer or a legit pimp or a legit rapper or worker etc. Your argument would hold more wait for a preteen a teenager is pretty engrained in their thought processes at that point. can they reform or be in recovery fromthe past detrimental mentalities yes but that does not mean they do most just become functioning as they gather more knowledge on how to maintain both the world around them and their views. Nothing militant about it I speak from a social and spiritual side also which again to me dude lacks legitmacy in those areas...

Teenagers dont know any better. I speak that from experience.
 
My answer would be because he's not good enough or in other words, I can easily name 10 better emcees.

Btw, what makes Eminem better than all of the guys before him who have inspired his rap style or rappers with similar styles?

What makes Em better than Royce?

What makes Eminem better than Pharoahe Monch?

What makes Eminem better than Canibus?

What makes Eminem better than Redman?

What makes Eminem better than Masta Ace?

... It's definitely not catalog, because those pop singles Em releases automatically stops any of his albums from being great, let alone classic. (Take any of the universal hip-hop classics and place an Em single on it. That shit would drop at least 1mic.) It's not creativity, because those dudes I named are some of the most creative emcees out there. It's not longevity, because all of those people are still releasing albums to this date. And we all know it's not lyrics, because Em ain't like that with lyrics when speaking from an all-time standpoint, so what is it?
 
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NothingButTheTruth said:
My answer would be because he's not good enough or in other words, I can easily name 10 better emcees.

Btw, what makes Eminem better than all of the guys before him who have inspired his rap style or rappers with similar styles?

What makes Em better than Royce?

What makes Eminem better than Pharoahe Monch?

What makes Eminem better than Canibus?

What makes Eminem better than Redman?

What makes Eminem better than Masta Ace?

... It's definitely not catalog, because those pop singles Em releases automatically stops any of his albums from being great, let alone classic. (Take any of the universal hip-hop classics and place an Em single on it. That shit would drop at least 1mic.) It's not creativity, because those dudes I named are some of the most creative emcees out there. It's not longevity, because all of those people are still releasing albums to this date. And we all know it's not lyrics, because Em ain't like that with lyrics when speaking from an all-time standpoint, so what is it?

all those rappers are just as talented MC's as Marshall....

BUT THEY CANT WRITE SONGS as well as EMINEM... theres your ANSWER@!!.... thats why the rappers you posted are underground RAPPERS..... and not ARTIST... they cant write songs................
 
only on the internet does anyone disagree that he's top ten.

no point in spending energy trying to convince people whos life consists of typing paragraphs upon paragraphs about how much they hate entertainers.

ive noticed that people who stay on these websites hate anyone who has gotten very successful through music. thats how you get retarded statements like "jay-z is the most one dimensional rapper ever" said earlier in this thread. em, jay, and 50 are loved by people i see in person but when i check these sites the hate never stops
 
Eminem has made some really good songs, but I don't put him in my top 10.

My top 10 Rappers don't make songs like this...

=related


 
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NothingButTheTruth;4116528 said:
My answer would be because he's not good enough or in other words, I can easily name 10 better emcees.

Btw, what makes Eminem better than all of the guys before him who have inspired his rap style or rappers with similar styles?

What makes Em better than Royce?

What makes Eminem better than Pharoahe Monch?

What makes Eminem better than Canibus?

What makes Eminem better than Redman?

What makes Eminem better than Masta Ace?

... It's definitely not catalog, because those pop singles Em releases automatically stops any of his albums from being great, let alone classic. (Take any of the universal hip-hop classics and place an Em single on it. That shit would drop at least 1mic.) It's not creativity, because those dudes I named are some of the most creative emcees out there. It's not longevity, because all of those people are still releasing albums to this date. And we all know it's not lyrics, because Em ain't like that with lyrics when speaking from an all-time standpoint, so what is it?

your arguments are always so weak lol

youtube.com/watch?v=hO2wA0Te0wM

youtube.com/watch?v=aSLZFdqwh7E&ob=av3e

youtube.com/watch?v=lgT1AidzRWM&ob=av3n

but i cant connect to the song, call the wahhambulance, as if u can connect any better to rappers pretending to be king pin drug lords lol or anything NWA rapped about 90% of the tiem of there fake gang banging

you dont go to the internet forums to find intelligence so its my fault for even questioning you lol

you probably Max B was hot on the streets, but it was just the forums :)

 
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