Lebron James Speaks on Tamir Rice...

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playmaker88;8632255 said:
blackrain;8632226 said:
playmaker88;8631930 said:
First i dont look to athletes for anything..

There are alot of connecting fibers to..

- He is a son of Cleveland/Akron He has kids Tamirs age

- He actually said something before and said he doesnt allow his kids to have toy guns. So he was aware..

- Hes given back to kids in major and public ways.. kids very much the same age bracket as Tamir Rice who are recipients of his generosity... who too live in the same world Tamir was taken from

- He waded into social justice by throwing on that tshirt and hoody... As a megastar.. dont make bold statements without saying something.. If you cant say it yourself have your people say something

The problem with making 1 statement sometimes is people then expect you to make a statement every time something happens...and it seems like that's what happening to LeBron here along with the other factors you mentioned....

Yup .. if you gonna make a statement you must make emphatic and unmistakable.. nothing more nothing-less

True but I think it's silly to expect a grand statement every time something happens. If you make 1 make it count of course but running to LeBron for an answer or any athlete is silly
 
blackrain;8632303 said:
playmaker88;8632255 said:
blackrain;8632226 said:
playmaker88;8631930 said:
First i dont look to athletes for anything..

There are alot of connecting fibers to..

- He is a son of Cleveland/Akron He has kids Tamirs age

- He actually said something before and said he doesnt allow his kids to have toy guns. So he was aware..

- Hes given back to kids in major and public ways.. kids very much the same age bracket as Tamir Rice who are recipients of his generosity... who too live in the same world Tamir was taken from

- He waded into social justice by throwing on that tshirt and hoody... As a megastar.. dont make bold statements without saying something.. If you cant say it yourself have your people say something

The problem with making 1 statement sometimes is people then expect you to make a statement every time something happens...and it seems like that's what happening to LeBron here along with the other factors you mentioned....

Yup .. if you gonna make a statement you must make emphatic and unmistakable.. nothing more nothing-less

True but I think it's silly to expect a grand statement every time something happens. If you make 1 make it count of course but running to LeBron for an answer or any athlete is silly

I agree. But fam unless he just wants to admit his Cleveland love is a marketing scheme.. this case. this case should matter a lil bit more than something that amounts to thats messed up. I mean i shouldnt expect everyone to be engaged/invested/thoughtful on matters that affect our community at large but damn this is in your locale
 
Stiff;8632243 said:
D0wn;8632197 said:
Stiff;8632168 said:
D0wn;8632127 said:
Stiff;8632043 said:
D0wn;8632003 said:
Show me a sound bite of Tom Brady, Justin Beiber, or Taylor swift discussing social issues in the wht community?

wht ppl aren't stupid. when shit get thick, they seek the ppl who can actually handle, and discuss the issues FOR REAL SOLUTIONS. they don't go to entertainers...

I guess when the community you are a part of is a joke. It make sense to look for court jesters for SOLUTIONS.

At the bolded : there's no such thing as "the white community"

I agree with the post for the most part tho. When there's a fire we don't call gardeners...even if its the best gardeners.

yes the fuck there is.

there's no such thing as a blk community. but the wht community is alive thriving and global...it's a system call white supremacy.

Mitt Romney ain't apart of the same community as barefoot mike from hidden valley mobile homes in kentucky..

through an elaborate multi-generational mind fuck barefoot mike has been tricked into believing that him and mitt romney are on the same team..but no they're not.

They're on the same team, white supremacy.

barefoot Mike from Kentucky, sleeps like a king at night because, he voted against his own interest just to maintain white supremacy...

he'll sleep through the night peacefully, and happy because, he knows in this country he has more power, and privileged than the riches of niggas.

he has the perception of power but he doesn't actually have it..the mitt romneys don't want him at the table either

he has nothing going for him but he's been convinced that his white skin is all he needs..he clings to it for a sense of identity while the people at the top who pull the strings use him as cannon fodder for their agenda..he not part of their community he just THINKS he is..and him thinking that keeps the country turning.

That White Boy has MORE POWER THAN YOU, and that's all that matters TO HIM.... THEY LIKE THEY'RE NIGGAS IN THEIR PLACE.

THESE WHITE COPS WHO ARE KILLING US, AND GETTING AWAY WITH IT, ARE LIVING FROM CHECK TO CHECK, THEY'RE NOT SITTING AT THE TABLE WITH ROMNEY EITHER.

BUT UNDER THE SYSTEM OF WHITE SUPREMACY, HE MAINTAINS HIS PRIVILEGE...

Again, I Can post stories of whites engaging in shoot outs with others, AND THE POLICE, only to be detained ALIVE.

yet TAMIR And John Crawford are killed in a heart beat, for having fake guns... but i guess that's all perception ... huh?

 
I just find it hard to believe that he claims he doesn't know much about it..It happened in Cleveland, he has sons of his own around the same age and it happened a little over a year ago.

He doesn't have to sit out games. That's his profession and the two have no correlation but a little acknowledgement of the situation can go a long way.

I don't think anyone believes Lebron or anyone else can fix our problems. It's more so being a voice many of us aren't afforded. You know why whites don't look to celebrities? They are the majority, we are not. Things that affect us don't affect them in the same way.

When you take away the pedestal and the money, they are just like us. They shouldn't be exempt from speaking about social issues. I think giving that pass is more damaging than not.
 
D0wn;8632337 said:
Stiff;8632243 said:
D0wn;8632197 said:
Stiff;8632168 said:
D0wn;8632127 said:
Stiff;8632043 said:
D0wn;8632003 said:
Show me a sound bite of Tom Brady, Justin Beiber, or Taylor swift discussing social issues in the wht community?

wht ppl aren't stupid. when shit get thick, they seek the ppl who can actually handle, and discuss the issues FOR REAL SOLUTIONS. they don't go to entertainers...

I guess when the community you are a part of is a joke. It make sense to look for court jesters for SOLUTIONS.

At the bolded : there's no such thing as "the white community"

I agree with the post for the most part tho. When there's a fire we don't call gardeners...even if its the best gardeners.

yes the fuck there is.

there's no such thing as a blk community. but the wht community is alive thriving and global...it's a system call white supremacy.

Mitt Romney ain't apart of the same community as barefoot mike from hidden valley mobile homes in kentucky..

through an elaborate multi-generational mind fuck barefoot mike has been tricked into believing that him and mitt romney are on the same team..but no they're not.

They're on the same team, white supremacy.

barefoot Mike from Kentucky, sleeps like a king at night because, he voted against his own interest just to maintain white supremacy...

he'll sleep through the night peacefully, and happy because, he knows in this country he has more power, and privileged than the riches of niggas.

he has the perception of power but he doesn't actually have it..the mitt romneys don't want him at the table either

he has nothing going for him but he's been convinced that his white skin is all he needs..he clings to it for a sense of identity while the people at the top who pull the strings use him as cannon fodder for their agenda..he not part of their community he just THINKS he is..and him thinking that keeps the country turning.

That White Boy has MORE POWER THAN YOU, and that's all that matters TO HIM.... THEY LIKE THEY'RE NIGGAS IN THEIR PLACE.

THESE WHITE COPS WHO ARE KILLING US, AND GETTING AWAY WITH IT, ARE LIVING FROM CHECK TO CHECK, THEY'RE NOT SITTING AT THE TABLE WITH ROMNEY EITHER.

BUT UNDER THE SYSTEM OF WHITE SUPREMACY, HE MAINTAINS HIS PRIVILEGE...

Again, I Can post stories of whites engaging in shoot outs with others, AND THE POLICE, only to be detained ALIVE.

yet TAMIR And John Crawford are killed in a heart beat, for having fake guns... but i guess that's all perception ... huh?

He doesn't have more power than me..he has more privilege than me and there's a difference.

You think every white person in America has more power by default than every Black person?
 
Copper;8632249 said:
Lebron knows about this case though....

That true. He spoke about it in February when he stated that he had conversations with his kids in the past about having toy guns; that they need to be non realistic looking and they can't take them outside of the house.

It's not as if there's been additional facts that came out between then and today. Homie just gave a politically correct statement.
 
MD_PROPER ;8631838 said:
playmaker88;8631431 said:
Here are mines everyone was back slapping Lebron for throwing on a Hoody and a T-shirt.. and praising him as a leader in social justice in the sports arena.. . Wrongfully... because he never fully articulated like SOME other athletes have. Basically hes is saying ..."thats messed up" .. Its shame tbh especially coming from that area being in that area. He should have never been touted as something he isn't.. its inexcusable for something like this that had national international attention to happen in your backyard yet you have nothing substantive to say..

If you throw on that Hoody to make a statement.. make....a STATEMENT

I wrote about that situation in a paper. I applauded LeBron for making a statement. I get the paper back from the professor (old white guy) and he wrote a comment saying this is just LeBron being LeBron, meaning he's trying get attention.

I tbought to myself, dude just hatin, but reading the bolded just made think twice about my original opinion of the Miami Heat Hoodie pic.

This shit happened in the city he plays for..he has a son close to the age Tamir Rice was...you telling me you're not fully aware of the circumstances surrounding the shooting...Really King?
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Smh......great talent, but he's just a glory hog
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^^^Type people i cannot associate with in life. At ALL. Not Lebron, people like you and your professor. (You just put yourself in the same box as an old white man, btw)

The type people to doubt and meet someone else's joy with hate are FILTH to me. You in a bad space

And for the record, Lebron simply being Lebron and wearing the hoodie gave it more eyes on a mainstream level. Bc, again, not everyone in the world logs into the IC everyday Lol So that WAS his contribution , that's his service, thats his act of being a vessel of change. Do you know what a vessel is?

vessel noun [C] (PERSON)

› literary; a ​person who has a ​particular ​quality or who is used for a ​particular ​purpose


Political activism aint his particular quality. Its not his particular purpose. When ordinary citizens set up get out n vote drives thats their particular purpose. ..they are a vessel for the politicians to then do THEIR job. THEIR particular purpose.

Look at me, king. Do you understand ?

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"The most important thing that we all need to understand, the most important thing, this issue is bigger than LeBron," he said.

Yeah..that's the most important thing about this
 
playmaker88;8632333 said:
blackrain;8632303 said:
playmaker88;8632255 said:
blackrain;8632226 said:
playmaker88;8631930 said:
First i dont look to athletes for anything..

There are alot of connecting fibers to..

- He is a son of Cleveland/Akron He has kids Tamirs age

- He actually said something before and said he doesnt allow his kids to have toy guns. So he was aware..

- Hes given back to kids in major and public ways.. kids very much the same age bracket as Tamir Rice who are recipients of his generosity... who too live in the same world Tamir was taken from

- He waded into social justice by throwing on that tshirt and hoody... As a megastar.. dont make bold statements without saying something.. If you cant say it yourself have your people say something

The problem with making 1 statement sometimes is people then expect you to make a statement every time something happens...and it seems like that's what happening to LeBron here along with the other factors you mentioned....

Yup .. if you gonna make a statement you must make emphatic and unmistakable.. nothing more nothing-less

True but I think it's silly to expect a grand statement every time something happens. If you make 1 make it count of course but running to LeBron for an answer or any athlete is silly

I agree. But fam unless he just wants to admit his Cleveland love is a marketing scheme.. this case. this case should matter a lil bit more than something that amounts to thats messed up. I mean i shouldnt expect everyone to be engaged/invested/thoughtful on matters that affect our community at large but damn this is in your locale

That nigga don't love Cleveland he loves Akron and has always publicly made that distinction. But again I do agree simply based on how close he is to say he doesn't know the details is weird...then again plenty people don't know the details so it is what it is
 
D0wn;8632003 said:
Show me a sound bite of Tom Brady, Justin Beiber, or Taylor swift discussing social issues in the wht community?

wht ppl aren't stupid. when shit get thick, they seek the ppl who can actually handle, and discuss the issues FOR REAL SOLUTIONS. they don't go to entertainers...

I guess when the community you are a part of is a joke. It make sense to look for court jesters for SOLUTIONS.

There are actually a lot of white celebrities who openly champion and speak on causes that are important to them such as gay rights, drug legalization, climate change, animal cruelty, gun control, etc because of their platform

Many of whom are politically active

And I'm sure many them were prompted or requested to do so

Yes Peyton Manning doesn't face the same pressure to speak on social issues as a LeBron James

The difference is Peyton isn't a member of a community that is largely disenfranchised ...who are underrepresented in government and corporate America

And no one is looking for LeBron to solve anything....most ppl look towards celebrities in these matters to make use of their fame and resources same as they did during the Civil Rights Movement...not unreasonable

Not to say that it's a great idea or that we should expect every blk celebrity to speak on and champion issues important to us but let's be real

If LeBron and his teammates were to actually sit out games and call for his fans to not come to the games costing Cleveland and team owners possibly costing millions in revenue that would get some heads turning...same as what happened in Missouri when the college football players boycotted

 
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Copper;8632485 said:
"The most important thing that we all need to understand, the most important thing, this issue is bigger than LeBron," he said.

Yeah..that's the most important thing about this

He gave that answer in the context of being asked about boycotting games like some were asking.
 
Copper;8632249 said:
Lebron knows about this case though....

I don't think he meant to claim ignorance on the case...

He's on a long road trip in the locker room wrapped in a towel, not even fully dressed answering questions on the fly. He knows about Tamir but it's fair to say he may not have known about the decision to not charge the cop
 
Trillfate;8632605 said:
Copper;8632249 said:
Lebron knows about this case though....

I don't think he meant to claim ignorance on the case...

He's on a long road trip in the locker room wrapped in a towel, not even fully dressed answering questions on the fly. He knows about Tamir but it's fair to say he may not have known about the decision to not charge the cop

You do bring an interesting point. NBA players are interviewed just as you said and often not long after a game. To expect a detailed response on anything non game related is being a bit naive. Can see if it was like NFL players where some get weekly press conferences but to expect the response some wanted they're putting too much hope onto another human being
 
A PC statement as expected and no one should have expected anything different. Once again a simple no comment would have sufficed. His response did not need to be that long, but athletes today are not going to fuck up their money for speaking the truth.
 
desertrain10;8632513 said:
D0wn;8632003 said:
Show me a sound bite of Tom Brady, Justin Beiber, or Taylor swift discussing social issues in the wht community?

wht ppl aren't stupid. when shit get thick, they seek the ppl who can actually handle, and discuss the issues FOR REAL SOLUTIONS. they don't go to entertainers...

I guess when the community you are a part of is a joke. It make sense to look for court jesters for SOLUTIONS.

There are actually a lot of white celebrities who openly champion and speak on causes that are important to them such as gay rights, drug legalization, climate change, animal cruelty, gun control, etc because of their platform

Many of whom are politically active

And I'm sure many them were prompted or requested to do so

Yes Peyton Manning doesn't face the same pressure to speak on social issues as a LeBron James

The difference is Peyton isn't a member of a community that is largely disenfranchised ...who are underrepresented in government and corporate America

And no one is looking for LeBron to solve anything....most ppl look towards celebrities in these matters to make use of their fame and resources same as they did during the Civil Rights Movement...not unreasonable

Not to say that it's a great idea or that we should expect every blk celebrity to speak on and champion issues important to us but let's be real

If LeBron and his teammates were to actually sit out games and call for his fans to not come to the games costing Cleveland and team owners possibly costing millions in revenue that would get some heads turning...same as what happened in Missouri when the college football players boycotted

The WHITE CELEBS WHO DO SPEAK UP, ARE GENERALLY The one's, who HAVE ACTUAL INTEREST IN POLITICS AND SOCIAL ISSUES. MOST IMPORTANTLY, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.

When I SAY SPEAK UP, i'm not talking about Bull Shit ads, i'm TALKING, actual Discussions.

Blk Celebs in the past, were able to use their celebrity, and put a light on the movement because, there was an actual movement, with actual leaders, and groups, and most importantly the community was a part of it. it Wasn't just ALI Or BILL RUSSELL by THEMSELVES.



This CALL FOR LEBRON was all a PLOY at SYMBOLISM, and not as an act of resolution.




if they wanted an actual athlete to speak up on this issue, they could of holla'd at Andrew Hawkins (the athlete @Breezy_Kilroy posted). Anthony Hawkins already PASSIONATELY spoke about Tamir AND JOHN CRAWFORD and was coherent , and showed actual concerned on this issue.

They didn't because, these so-called TWITTER activist are out of touch with the community.


LEBRON n his TEAMMATES sitting out that game, has nothing to do with the prosecutors or the justice system. Unlike the MISSOURI Football player's, whose boycott had a direct AFFECT on the SCHOOL.
 

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