Law Of Attraction?

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luke1733;c-9591704 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9591447 said:
luke1733;c-9591389 said:
Guess I'll keep going in on this thread since this one inch of ice has shut down ATL.

Response is there in the edits at the bottom of the examples. Plus, You don't sound to positive in your message. Proof evident, contradict. Things are based on how you look at it, different perspective.

I'll add what you missed again lower in quotes, which makes this a TITANGRAPH.

Basic point is according to the "Secret" and staying true to that positive theory that states many ways to stay positive and the belief in staying positive by all means then YOU have to keep on that belief. Positive at all times. I can see where Positive at all times can lead to side effects and attract negatives.

If you believe in anything else then we actually aren't in disagreement.


Anyone who disagrees with me is negative.

But seriously,Such as when you say it is okay for some people according to their job to be negative. THat's what I've been saying the whole time.

What I subscribe to is there is a time to consider everything honestly and sometimes it is not necessary to put a positive spin on EVERYTHING, but when you can try-try to be positive. If you can be positive sometime and then be neutral or informative or sometimes only when absolutely necessary you are critical in acting negatively to others trying to take advantage of you (which sadly in this way positive people draw from negative people negative energy because to negative people they view positive people as easy to take advantage of because they don't fear any retribution) or when nothing else will work then THAT is exactly what I agree with being okay.

You say with passion that you don't include positivity in so many words in things like:-- except for during your job or except for when your defending yourself or except (insert anything that contributes to looking at it self-righteously). Actually your excuse is wrong. Regardless of one's job position your BELIEF states positivity at all times will yield positive results. My belief states under certain conditions this belief has not held true. It's been tested by the military and conducted by three countries randomly on people, but apparently proof on that doesn't mean much.

Here's what I wrote before:

"One example doesn't disprove anything but billions have do: My tax lady fucked up my taxes and the IRS came after me. Ok. I handled it nicely with her and told her I understood. Cool. She did nothing no matter how many ways I talked to her and kept everything positive. Nothing was done and it got to two weeks passing and her not returning my calls. Once I threatened to turn her in she did everything I wanted her to do in one day.

State Farm. Wouldn't replace a roof that caved in on a property I owned and rented out. They said it wasn't their fault. I accepted it and moved positively in conversation because I don't like to argue. They did nothing to replace a $7,000 roof. At work a friend told me to threaten them (and there are no positive threats) to go to Georgia's Commissioner office. I wrote the commissioner and the office threatened a lawsuit against State Farm in my favor and State Farm apologized to me and paid for everything.

This doesn't change everything. But it worked for me positively by reacting to them harshly and threatening. Call it whatever type of energy, I am happy."


examples of positivity not always working: performance based jobs, forcing people trying to cheat you or take advantage of you to act accordingly, confronting unjust laws or policies, saying stupid things to people like after their mother died "at least your Dad isn't dead too" or any situation where positivity might not be as useful as neutrality or telling people sometimes things aren't always going to get better. We have to deal with problems by first addressing there is a problem.

So basically, be positive unless a situation calls for you to be negative and most importantly be realistic and critical.

AND

Anyone who disagrees with me is negative.

hahaha

If "IF" was a Fifth I'd be drunk.

People like you think too much into things. Smile bruh. Attack each situation as it arises and make steps within that situation according what makes you happy.

Noone ever said the world was perfect and that because I am Uber positive that I'd walk off of a cliff with a smile on my face. Hahaha.

HOWEVER, I do choose to take the road less traveled in negative situations. I allow my natural self to deal with the required emotion for only a short time before finding a positive action to counteract the negative situation.

Bad things happen...yes, but it is YOUR CHOICE how you allow it to effect your life.

Stop trying to convince folks that it's not OK to be positive hahaha. What kinda ish is that? How is it better to be negative? And why is a negative reaction expected in negative situations? Who made the rules?

And REALITY as you like to throw in there, is relative to the individual. There is no blueprint to life therefore there are no set rules or guidelines to follow to distinguish what "reality" is supposed to be for everyone.

I create my own dang reality and I don't mind if you live in your negative one and I my positive one.

If it makes you smile my guy...live it up! Debating your CHOICE to be disconsolate over my choice to be elated does what for you?

Are you that frustrated at those that choose to see the positive in all things? @luke1733 might you be the grinch sir? :joy: haha.. I kid.

 
Reesey;c-9595373 said:
luke1733;c-9591704 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9591447 said:
luke1733;c-9591389 said:
Guess I'll keep going in on this thread since this one inch of ice has shut down ATL.

Response is there in the edits at the bottom of the examples. Plus, You don't sound to positive in your message. Proof evident, contradict. Things are based on how you look at it, different perspective.

I'll add what you missed again lower in quotes, which makes this a TITANGRAPH.

Basic point is according to the "Secret" and staying true to that positive theory that states many ways to stay positive and the belief in staying positive by all means then YOU have to keep on that belief. Positive at all times. I can see where Positive at all times can lead to side effects and attract negatives.

If you believe in anything else then we actually aren't in disagreement.


Anyone who disagrees with me is negative.

It's deep how you can be so shallow.

I never said to be negative. Apparently you don't read into what is written over and over again and you see what you want to see. I constantly state there are other ways to handle things without trying to spin everything into as why every situation has to be turned into a positive. The argument I posed was on the basis of the belief in a theory that states like equals like in the ("The Secret" book) belief that everything positive will always turn the world to respond positively. That's a lie. Lies are negative. If it was true then prove it. Some people on here were preaching as if it was a fact. I stated this theory has been tested and by some tests done that were interesting. Daniel Kahneman and Amos Tversky tested positive people's ways of handling problems with the results received in America's military and the jewish military. The tests are in a book called the Undoing Project, along with many other behavioral traits.

My thing is it's okay to feel bad if something bad happens.

You actually are arguing there is something wrong with me stating it's ok to be fine with reality??? That does say you are delusional or living in denial.

Many, maybe not you, live in a world of superficiality being told to always be happy and say everything is great and positive. As a result some go through depression because they feel alone or feel themselves failures when life doesn't respond the way someone else told them it is supposed to. They believe positivity is the way to handle everything even at the cost of sacrficing their emotions and reality to realize that you can perceive things positively, neutrally, critically and work and fail at making this world the best for you it can be. If people only get positivity without criticism it is very difficult to improve. If everything is seen as having a positive side but reality tells them this isn't true then believing in that lie can make a person feel they must have done something wrong if they fail at being happy or positive through every ordeal in life. Why? Because everyone else is happy. When in truth many are putting on an image of being happy (which at many times this is truly ok to do. It just isn't okay or positive to do this all the time at the consequence and unintentional act of lying. Some people need to hear of others trying and failing and how every story/trial doesn't end up a success story). Some people need to know it is okay not to smile if they don't feel like it. Why? Because some people have been told no matter what they must always be strong or else they're weak; when those who believe in that are confused. Nobody is strong all the time.Cults survive because of people who believe thinking only one way is the best way and only way.

It is very important for an ugly girl to hear that the way that the world responds to her unfairly or negatively isn't her fault and that others have gone through the criticisms she fought. She should know she might have to hear those things for the rest of her life but that she does not have to smile at those who say it to her. **Alot can be said to help her confidence too if it is attacked.

Nobody wants a life story when I ask "what's up?" BUT if we know each other for years and I know you're ignoring tears and say everything is fine as if I'm blind then I'm like: "man what's really up with you?" Nobody can help you if they don't know what you're going through. Even Jesus cried.

But some people refuse to feel okay with things not being great. It ruins their ego they are trying to create. That's the lie I'm speaking to. They want to believe they are happy, so they say it and take pictures trying to prove to themselves its true.

Now, people are making millions off lying to people teaching that the universe will respond in karma too? And if you aren't google-eyed happy something is wrong with you.

That's the lie. That's what I have a problem with. I don't like rappers bragging or lying about material wealth in every song they do (some songs are ok), and I don't like people lying about the way they feel. It shows that person is a lie and not real. Xanax and all the other pills to cure the worlds ills are just drugs whose side effects kill. I love this world and don't like some of it. The world is unpredictable and filled with uncertainty and some things you can change and be certain of, and nothing should be an excuse to not give your best efforts. That's just the way it is. That doesn't make it negative or positive or any less than either. Better to acknowledge and accept this then be in denial fooling yourself to smile. The world is filled with good and love. Many things depend on perspective.

I don't believe it is good for people to ignore their inner feelings without addressing their existence to be true.
 
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Preach2Teach;d-554220 said:
The law of attraction is the name given to the maxim "like attracts like" which in New Thought philosophy is used to sum up the idea that by focusing on positive or negative thoughts a person brings positive or negative experiences into their life. This belief is based upon the idea that people and their thoughts are both made from "pure energy", and the belief that like energy attracts like energy.

So is it possible for me to think myself into becoming what I want to become?

to simply answer shortly the thread's question (since we've been highly sidetracked, and my apologies on hijacking it) YES it is very possible and likely to think oneself to become what they want to. Planning, prayer, ability to not be deterred by failure, maintain discipline, hard work, the right attitude, education, CONSTANT application and a focus on anything will always yield a result in the direction of a goal. Even if you don't attain it, you will be closer than if you did not invest in making it into reality. Like my long essays on here state: I don't believe focusing on positive alone will always change a person's experiences for the better.
 
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@luke1733 Name calling? Tisk tisk. Lol

Its not that serious honey bunch. My positive outlook is just that "mine", and another's belief system or the lack thereof does not determine my life therefore I'm golden! ;)

As previously stated, it doesn't matter what you think. I agree to disagree with ya and hope you are happy with your version of "reality".

 
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Reesey;c-9598036 said:
@luke1733 Name calling? Tisk tisk. Lol

Its not that serious honey bunch. My positive outlook is just that "mine", and another's belief system or the lack thereof does not determine my life therefore I'm golden! ;)

As previously stated, it doesn't matter what you think. I agree to disagree with ya and hope you are happy with your version of "reality".

ur not that important to me, but where is the name calling??? I really wasn't responding to you at all first. It was 2stepz that we were having a conversation and you entered in. What are you reading where I called you a name? Describing you as you found the desire to also describe me is not calling you a name reesey, but you can see it as you want to see. Apparently that's where you and I disagree. But again, name calling? Like I said in the beginning prove it to me that's the difference between what's made up versus reality. I won't edit a thing in the previous responses.
 
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luke1733;c-9598054 said:
Reesey;c-9598036 said:
@luke1733 Name calling? Tisk tisk. Lol

Its not that serious honey bunch. My positive outlook is just that "mine", and another's belief system or the lack thereof does not determine my life therefore I'm golden! ;)

As previously stated, it doesn't matter what you think. I agree to disagree with ya and hope you are happy with your version of "reality".

ur not that important to me, but where is the name calling??? I really wasn't responding to you at all first. It was 2stepz that we were having a conversation and you entered in. What are you reading where I called you a name? Describing you as you found the desire to also describe me is not calling you a name reesey, but you can see it as you want to see. Apparently that's where you and I disagree. But again, name calling? Like I said in the beginning prove it to me that's the difference between what's made up versus reality. I won't edit a thing in the previous responses.

you two can argue about positive thinking all you want all I know is this man changed my life
 
T. Sanford;c-9569777 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9569478 said:
ineedpussy;c-9569250 said:
Neophyte Wolfgang;c-9569062 said:
wtf? nigga lay mens terms. i know what i want for the most part. now its about how do i find this woman that i "want"?
Damn you happiness depends on a woman? smh

why wouldnt it? a nigga need to have kids bruh. if i had kids then it would be fuck a bitch

maybe you already found the woman but you need to change your outlook on life.

while you may get the ass, a woman worth anything can see thru your shit. maybe not right away but she will .

from this statement...maybe this is what your aura shows...so why should they be attracted to you?

Its too many people requesting things from the opposite sex that they don't embody themselves. "Can't get mad at the bouncer because you are not dressed for the club, elevate the attire & you can get in" Like I told one of my home girls. Animals of the same species attract. You wanna be a lion & attract other lioness then you have to be a lion yourself. So you have to implement the same attributes that you're attracted to.

This this this this

Once again somebody was on my TL "All men wanna do is..."

Nah that's all you attract...accountability been a huge button for me lately, went off on one of my best friends for playing the innocent/victim card

 
Wanna add, I was watching the Matrix and when Neo goes to see the oracle, the lil spoon bending kid said the dopest shit to Neo

"Don't try to bend the spoon, bend your mind" :o
 
Happy Saturday loves :3

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I know ever since I started seriously reading the Bible and becoming more spiritual...not just going to church just to go...or quoting scriptures just because it sounds good...but truly believing with all my heart...that's when I began to see some very positive impacts.

For me, there's an answer to every life experience in the Bible. I started diving deep into the Bible when I was in a place where I felt there was no where else to turn...haven't looked back since...that was 2010.
 
spit_fiya;c-9614026 said:
I know ever since I started seriously reading the Bible and becoming more spiritual...not just going to church just to go...or quoting scriptures just because it sounds good...but truly believing with all my heart...that's when I began to see some very positive impacts.

For me, there's an answer to every life experience in the Bible. I started diving deep into the Bible when I was in a place where I felt there was no where else to turn...haven't looked back since...that was 2010.

the Bible can be a very inspirational book.

I read Peter1 and took a lot from it. simply because it touched and spoke to me. with how I open my mind to all inspiration I am able to take the positive out of thinge. whether the Bible or Confucius

the brsin is the building block of who you are. if you challenge all good...you are allowing negative. if you are challenging negative. you are allowing positive.

are you going to look at why can't you be great rather than why you are not great?
 
@luke1733 think about this for a sec.

you brought up rape...

while it is terrible thing...awoman can share her story with other women on what not to do or what to do. showing them that your life can go on and doesn't have to stop.

while she went thru a traumatic situation... the bigger picture is shr can be a vessel to deliver strength in others that may save a life.

 
2stepz_ahead;c-9614085 said:
@luke1733 think about this for a sec.

you brought up rape...

while it is terrible thing...awoman can share her story with other women on what not to do or what to do. showing them that your life can go on and doesn't have to stop.

while she went thru a traumatic situation... the bigger picture is shr can be a vessel to deliver strength in others that may save a life.

I really wish you just kept me out of the conversation. I really do. I've written enough on here, but here we go:

The bigger picture? Wow. How could I not see the positive in rape? You've changed my mind. I'm sure many women should now have this happen so they can be positive in how they have a responsibility to share their story to other victims. I guess many victims of any circumstance can always consider the bigger picture of tragedy as a blessing. I never saw it that way thanks man.

This changes everything.

All joking aside, I'm not sure you and I are going to come to terms, let's just agree to disagree.

Nobody likes someone who is always negative. Many people also don't like people who go overboard trying always to be positive. I speak on balance. I believe in it and God and I believe things are also imbalanced in this world where good things can happen to bad people or good people and evidence of over 10,000 years of history document it. There are times when you can be something other than negative or positive. Neutral. You can speak on neutrality or you can go other ways such as criticism, critiquing, researching and investing in both views on how to achieve or learn what ever one wants.



Mansa Musa
traveled around the whole world giving up gold and spreading wealth and educating people. In return many Europeans saw his wealth and plotted on his positivity. Positivity can attract negativity/magnets. They came in an conquered many of his kingdoms and basically took over.

Jesus came and was according to Christians the most positive being ever. He saved many souls and was crucified, for many reasons *one being to fulfill scripture*.

Native Americans positively accepted Europeans as brothers and fed them, clothed them and in return were slaughtered to the point of almost extinction.

I'm never, ever, ever against positivity. I just expect grown adults to be beyond brainwashing themselves. I and the world have a billion examples but it does not matter. A girl's father died that I know. I didn't know her father had died unexpectedly. I asked her at work how her day was going. "Great, great. Everything is perfect love." She says. I tell her that's good. She then says "my Dad just died."

She then goes on with a smile on her face hiding tears explaining who her father was, how she has to go back to London for her father's funeral.

I'm thinking to myself she just said everything was great? Okay. This is how she wants to see it. It's fine. Many people greet death differently. The tears she was fighting told me another story. She was in pain and refused to let it surface. That took strength. While at the same time I do believe there is a very dangerous side effect to those who truly do feel differently but have not found a proper way to relieve themselves of what ever is anxiety.

Funny thing is, you read all this and probably only want to see the positive in how she responded. Maybe.

It's just different ways people want to handle things. Denial is very dangerous in my opinion and so is brainwashing. Now, with that said, if you decide you want to work on your attitude because you see your current one is a problem then that's up to you......as well as any other decision you make.

Convincing yourself on something is okay in some circumstances and is not in others. Telling yourself you are happy when you are not; telling yourself everything is great when you know there are problems that need to be addressed in a different manner than a smile on one's face is poisonous. Denying your emotions is negative. If you want something to happen in your life that you are striving for then this is no secret: plan, stay focused on a limit of two goals, pray, don't be deterred by failure, practice self-control, adopt the appropriate attitude for what the job requires, educate oneself on the language of the job, actually attempt and apply yourself doing the task, practice at least 2 hours a day, invest

In this world there have been many atrocities that have transpired. The change that made things better did not come in my readings from people who addressed everything in a positive manner. The changes and successes came from people willing to fight mentally or physically, often times many of them fought with hurt and pain and expressed it and defined it so that their audiences who were in their same situations could see their leaders were not positively ARROGANT enough to think the world rotated around them and that those who didn't have-didn't have because they didn't think positive thoughts.

Can you be positive all the time and remain completely honest and realistic?

Basically are you fake or not?


Nothing should get in the way of a person's growth or pursuit to achieve what one strives for, but that does not mean one will always get what they strive for. Again, that is not nor ever an excuse to stop putting in 100% effort.
 
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luke1733;c-9619159 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9614085 said:
@luke1733 think about this for a sec.

you brought up rape...

while it is terrible thing...awoman can share her story with other women on what not to do or what to do. showing them that your life can go on and doesn't have to stop.

while she went thru a traumatic situation... the bigger picture is shr can be a vessel to deliver strength in others that may save a life.

I really wish you just kept me out of the conversation. I really do. I've written enough on here, but here we go:

The bigger picture? Wow. How could I not see the positive in rape? You've changed my mind. I'm sure many women should now have this happen so they can be positive in how they have a responsibility to share their story to other victims. I guess many victims of any circumstance can always consider the bigger picture of tragedy as a blessing. I never saw it that way thanks man.

This changes everything.

All joking aside, I'm not sure you and I are going to come to terms, let's just agree to disagree.

Nobody likes someone who is always negative. Many people also don't like people who go overboard trying always to be positive. I speak on balance. I believe in it and God and I believe things are also imbalanced in this world where good things can happen to bad people or good people and evidence of over 10,000 years of history document it. There are times when you can be something other than negative or positive. Neutral. You can speak on neutrality or you can go other ways such as criticism, critiquing, researching and investing in both views on how to achieve or learn what ever one wants.



Mansa Musa
traveled around the whole world giving up gold and spreading wealth and educating people. In return many Europeans saw his wealth and plotted on his positivity. Positivity can attract negativity/magnets. They came in an conquered many of his kingdoms and basically took over.

Jesus came and was according to Christians the most positive being ever. He saved many souls and was crucified, for many reasons *one being to fulfill scripture*.

Native Americans positively accepted Europeans as brothers and fed them, clothed them and in return were slaughtered to the point of almost extinction.

I'm never, ever, ever against positivity. I just expect grown adults to be beyond brainwashing themselves. I and the world have a billion examples but it does not matter. A girl's father died that I know. I didn't know her father had died unexpectedly. I asked her at work how her day was going. "Great, great. Everything is perfect love." She says. I tell her that's good. She then says "my Dad just died."

She then goes on with a smile on her face hiding tears explaining who her father was, how she has to go back to London for her father's funeral.

I'm thinking to myself she just said everything was great? Okay. This is how she wants to see it. It's fine. Many people greet death differently. The tears she was fighting told me another story. She was in pain and refused to let it surface. That took strength. While at the same time I do believe there is a very dangerous side effect to those who truly do feel differently but have not found a proper way to relieve themselves of what ever is anxiety.

Funny thing is, you read all this and probably only want to see the positive in how she responded. Maybe.

It's just different ways people want to handle things. Denial is very dangerous in my opinion and so is brainwashing. Now, with that said, if you decide you want to work on your attitude because you see your current one is a problem then that's up to you......as well as any other decision you make.

Convincing yourself on something is okay in some circumstances and is not in others. Telling yourself you are happy when you are not; telling yourself everything is great when you know there are problems that need to be addressed in a different manner than a smile on one's face is poisonous. Denying your emotions is negative. If you want something to happen in your life that you are striving for then this is no secret: plan, stay focused on a limit of two goals, pray, don't be deterred by failure, practice self-control, adopt the appropriate attitude for what the job requires, educate oneself on the language of the job, actually attempt and apply yourself doing the task, practice at least 2 hours a day, invest

In this world there have been many atrocities that have transpired. The change that made things better did not come in my readings from people who addressed everything in a positive manner. The changes and successes came from people willing to fight mentally or physically, often times many of them fought with hurt and pain and expressed it and defined it so that their audiences who were in their same situations could see their leaders were not positively ARROGANT enough to think the world rotated around them and that those who didn't have-didn't have because they didn't think positive thoughts.

Can you be positive all the time and remain completely honest and realistic?

Basically are you fake or not?


Nothing should get in the way of a person's growth or pursuit to achieve what one strives for, but that does not mean one will always get what they strive for. Again, that is not nor ever an excuse to stop putting in 100% effort.

Very well written I bet you got and A Star in English, about the girl who lost her father tho, maybe she cried many many tears when she was alone at home she just didn't want to be breaking down crying in class for all to see.
 
2stepz_ahead;c-9614085 said:
@luke1733 think about this for a sec.

haha. Yeah. I got all A's and skipped a grade and a bunch of other stuff I ain't writing on here. School was easy and work too, but back to your other point on her (my co-worker) preach2teach. I totally agree and understand that too.

I'll let whoever wants to counter what I say have last word unless they ask me to respond,but I do want to add my last thought on this matter: Problem with people who believe in only, only only engaging in 100%positive thoughts at the sacrifice of excluding all other thoughts and disregarding all others is not in what the person who believes this way knows or doesn’t know. It is in that individuals need for certainty, or at least, the appearance of certainty. The things that individual is willing to do to convince oneself and ignore truths and evidence contrary lead the person to denial. To acknowledge uncertainty is to admit the possibility of error.

In life I have seen attached to this 100% positivity way of thinking a large amount of ARROGANCE in

refusing to acknowledge this way of thinking might be flawed.


Many (not all) successful people feel power in believing their success can be narrowed down to a fundamental belief that separates them from all other nonsuccessful people or those who don't believe as they do. One thing is for sure, and it's that the person eager to do anything (one thing or a million) to receive something that they want to define themselves by will inevitably come closer to attaining a goal than another person who does not equally match the same effort.

 
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