KRS-One: Real Men Don't Exist In Mainstream Hip-Hop

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soul rattler;7749306 said:
Did he beat them up or did he just push them off the stage?

Him and his crew were 30 deep. They waited until PM Dawn was performing and rushed the stage. Somebody in KRS's crew was throwing punches. Prince B, the rapper in PM Dawn got thrown off the stage. KRS proceeded to perform a few songs.
 
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It's obvious some that commented didn't listen to what KRS one is saying. You can really tell the difference between the men comments vs the boys.
 
I've always noticed the weird phenomenon of people holding conscious rappers to a different standard. Like if you're just some regular rapper who talks about fucking hoes and making money no one expects anything of you but if you're a conscious rapper people expect you to be some sort of super humanitarian revolutionary.

I think that's why a lot of cats shy away from conscious material cause people start expecting them to solve world hunger.
 
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Nah Son;7750839 said:
@5 Grand how do you feel about Kool Herc and Bambaataa?

I don't know what you mean. They are the forefathers and founders of Hip Hop. Just like Charlie Parker and Dizzy Gillespie are the forefathers and founders of Bebop. But that's where it ends for me. I don't worship those guys. I just give them their props and keep it moving.

High Revolutionary;7750950 said:
I've always noticed the weird phenomenon of people holding conscious rappers to a different standard. Like if you're just some regular rapper who talks about fucking hoes and making money no one expects anything of you but if you're a conscious rapper people expect you to be some of super humanitarian revolutionary.

I think that's why a lot of cats shy away from conscious material cause people start expecting them to solve world hunger.

Exactly. If you make an album addressing social issues and calling out government officials and politicians then people are gonna hold you to the same standard that you hold the government officials and politicians that you criticize.

I remember X Clan caught a lot of flack because they used to chase hoes and smoke weed after their shows. People said it was contrary to their image.

That's why I say musicians by their nature don't make good leaders or role models, especially rappers.
 
My point is though, that shouldn't be.

Musicians are artists expressing themselves first and foremost.

To me the conscious cats are already doing a service by making music that can potentially inspire uplift and motivate its listeners. Anything else is icing on the cake; they're musicians not politicians.
 
To paraphrase 2pac, "I won't change the world, but I will spark the mind of someone that will."

I think that is the importance of artists like KRS, Public Enemy, etc...
 
Yeah I remember when Public Enemy first came out, before Rebel Without a Pause and Bring The Noise. It was when their first album was out and nobody knew who they were. They were interviewed in some magazine and Chuck D said that he wanted to create 5,000 Black leaders.

I was young at the time, probably 13 years old but that was the first time I'd ever heard a rapper speak like that, with that kind of determination. Most rappers were just talking about getting girls and living the life.
 
5 Grand;7751303 said:
Yeah I remember when Public Enemy first came out, before Rebel Without a Pause and Bring The Noise. It was when their first album was out and nobody knew who they were. They were interviewed in some magazine and Chuck D said that he wanted to create 5,000 Black leaders.

I was young at the time, probably 13 years old but that was the first time I'd ever heard a rapper speak like that, with that kind of determination. Most rappers were just talking about getting girls and living the life.

Chuck D the goat.
 
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dwade206;7746441 said:
Can't take this dude seriously ever since he attempted to make Hip Hop a religion some years back. Smh.

Do you read the Reason bruh? lol For some of these nggas it is. They just dont know it. These nggas will follow a Big Krit verse before they follow a bible verse

And here's the kicker! Half the times these nggas who dont believe in God are followin rappers who are using bible verses/theories in rhymes!

But i digress...

huh? Just because you a fan of an artist doesn't mean that you have to agree with everything they say. Do you have to be a Nuwaubian or 5 percenter to listen to Hov? You need to be Muslim to listen to Lupe?
 

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