Kobe Bryant comments on Trayvon Martin

[Carthaginian]

I think, perhaps, some of you (most of you actually) are reacting to what you think he said and not really understanding what he might have meant to say.

Some of you guys are acting as though he's condoning what happened, or excusing it on the part of Zimmerman...but that isn't the case.

I think he's making a larger point, in the sense that; We blacks tend to be overly reactionary (case in point, this thread) when there's a flashpoint event involving an african american individual, Rather than maybe talking through the facts and observing the entire situation, etc...we tend to scream bloody murder at the first 'indication' of what we perceive to be injustice against a black man.

He's saying we won't react this way if the aggrieved party was indian, or latino, or chinese or whatever.....and that's not right, we should too.

I think he means to say that all injustice is bad, and also, a 'victim' isn't necessarily a 'victim' because he/she is black.

In that sense, he has point.

Again, I don't believe he was saying what happened to Martin was okay. That's just my opinion on it.

 

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Stephen A. Smith is Arsenio caping for Kobe...

 

[nujerz84]

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https://twitter.com/kobebryant/status/449695479991783424
https://twitter.com/kobebryant/status/449753708344004608

 

[IceBergTaylor]

Lol at Kobe's hashtags

 

[MR.CJ]

Stephen A. Smith is Arsenio caping for Kobe...

Where?

 

[dalyricalbandit]

this hashtag shit needs to go

 

[d.green]

GTFOH with equality for all and color blindness BS.

 

[MR.CJ]

Kobe thinks he the smartest nigga in the room

 

[Shizlansky]

This is America.

Where if you're black you're guilty till proven innocent.

Fuck that equality shit.

 

[blackrain]

Stephen A. Smith is Arsenio caping for Kobe...

He actually repeated something alot of people say already in that black folks blindly following the Democratic party under some idea that "Democrats love us, Republicans hate us" is stupid. That's not caping for Kobe that's simple common sense. Removing Kobe from the situation we can't act like some folks don't get ostracized for not having what's supposed to be the universal black view point on certain things.

 

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Stephen A. Smith is Arsenio caping for Kobe...

He actually repeated something alot of people say already in that black folks blindly following the Democratic party under some idea that "Democrats love us, Republicans hate us" is stupid. That's not caping for Kobe that's simple common sense. Removing Kobe from the situation we can't act like some folks don't get ostracized for not having what's supposed to be the universal black view point on certain things.

Your acting just like Stephen A. you are conflating two issues.. No one is saying he or anyone else doesn't have right to their own opinion.. on any kind of issue.. No matter how coonish that opinion is. The real issue is Tobe hating on Lebron,D-Wade & other blacks folks.. for standing up for Trayvon implying that niggas only did because Trayvon was black.. Tobe also implied that that niggas who standing up for Trayvon didnt have all the facts or didn't care enough to go out get all of the facts about the case.. The problem in that logic which Tobe can't seem to comprehend is the fact.. that maybe niggas were riding for Trayvon.. for reasons more then him just being black.. Like the fact they could relate to walking somewhere & doing nothing wrong.. yet some bitchmade person feels some type of negative way towards you because your wearing a hoodie or because of how your walking or maybe that person just fees like you don't belong in their neighborhood.. Maybe niggas supported Trayvon cause didn't like fact that grown ass could kill a teenager in cold blood and be out of jail that night.. or Maybe niggas rode for Trayvon cause they didn't like the fact he was the victim yet from the moment.. That he was killed he was treated like a suspect who deserved to die.. But none of those things went through Tobe's mind.. He just assumed niggas just supported Trayvon cause he was black.. and that was that.. And Tobe unlike rest of the black folks need to wait and get his "facts"...

 

[Meta_Conscious]

Marlon Wayans on the Kobe comment

how this Rosenburg dude can get on urban radio and say the shit he said in this video and not be challenged is sick.

all that shit he said was bullshit.

 

[D0wn]

Stephen A. Smith is Arsenio caping for Kobe...

He actually repeated something alot of people say already in that black folks blindly following the Democratic party under some idea that "Democrats love us, Republicans hate us" is stupid. That's not caping for Kobe that's simple common sense. Removing Kobe from the situation we can't act like some folks don't get ostracized for not having what's supposed to be the universal black view point on certain things.

Miss me with that. Nobody says anything when ; the gay Community blindly vote democract ,when the latino community majority vote democract. when The majority of middle class America vote democract. or When women vote democract.

But noooo let'S get on black folks.

They all have one thing in common, the republican party shuns them , and talks down on them, while democracts Attempt to pander to their issues.

its wolf and foxx with both. but on the surface Level, how are you to Support something, that dong even pretend to support you?

But No let's get on The black folks.

 

[blackrain]

Stephen A. Smith is Arsenio caping for Kobe...

He actually repeated something alot of people say already in that black folks blindly following the Democratic party under some idea that "Democrats love us, Republicans hate us" is stupid. That's not caping for Kobe that's simple common sense. Removing Kobe from the situation we can't act like some folks don't get ostracized for not having what's supposed to be the universal black view point on certain things.

Your acting just like Stephen A. you are conflating two issues.. No one is saying he or anyone else doesn't have right to their own opinion.. on any kind of issue.. No matter how coonish that opinion is. The real issue is Tobe hating on Lebron,D-Wade & other blacks folks.. for standing up for Trayvon implying that niggas only did because Trayvon was black.. Tobe also implied that that niggas who standing up for Trayvon didnt have all the facts or didn't care enough to go out get all of the facts about the case.. The problem in that logic which Tobe can't seem to comprehend is the fact.. that maybe niggas were riding for Trayvon.. for reasons more then him just being black.. Like the fact they could relate to walking somewhere & doing nothing wrong.. yet some bitchmade person feels some type of negative way towards you because your wearing a hoodie or because of how your walking or maybe that person just fees like you don't belong in their neighborhood.. Maybe niggas supported Trayvon cause didn't like fact that grown ass could kill a teenager in cold blood and be out of jail that night.. or Maybe niggas rode for Trayvon cause they didn't like the fact he was the victim yet from the moment.. That he was killed he was treated like a suspect who deserved to die.. But none of those things went through Tobe's mind.. He just assumed niggas just supported Trayvon cause he was black.. and that was that.. And Tobe unlike rest of the black folks need to wait and get his "facts"...

It's already been established Kobe used a shitty example to try and illustrate his point. It's also been established that the quote is just a part of a larger interview. Notice the quote doesn't actually mention the Miami Heat, just the headline to the quote. No this ain't a defense of Kobe so don't even go that route. I just prefer to read the entire interview and see if anything else was said before or after the quote before launching a full on "Kobe's a coon" campaign. If the rest of the interview carries that same tone then he should be forced to apologize face to face to Trayvon Martin's family for using their son's death to illustrate a point it had no connection to and face any public shame that comes with it. I just know that anything can be used to manipulate an opinion. Hell I just saw someone pull this pic from Kobe's instagram last year after Zimmerman's trial in defense of him and this quote. Anything can be manipulated when not in full context.

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[Copper]

Not a Kobe fan, but can't even call him a coon.

He wasn't raised like me, he not from where I'm from, so I wouldn't expect him to understand what real brothas already know...smdh

More than one way to be a lost nigga...

black awareness about racism has nothing to do with region

black people world wide face (esp in Europe)

even Africans in their on country face racism and unequality

no excuses this nigga is just wrong

Copper I hear you, but awareness alone is not enough, to expect a nigga like KOBE, to relate to the strife and struggles of a real brotha (in any country). That’s like asking the KLAN to understand why racism is wrong. Yea, the KLAN is aware of racism, but they can’t relate to it because they don’t experience the negative effects of it.

So, it’s reasonable to understand why a nigga like KOBE is lost. His whole perspective is out of whack because he came up in an environment that didn’t produce the types of harsh experiences that most BLACK MEN can relate too.

So, when a nigga like KOBE see’s racism against minorities, he a cause and effect type nigga, what they do to cause this result. Whereas you or I may see the sh!t for what it really is….

you dont have to have personal experience to empathize

Ive never been poor, never went to bed hungry but I dont blame the poor and hungry for being poor and hungry

 

[ZydecoShawty]

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Nah, let me rephrase this for the modern times of 2014.

Is Stephen A. Smith really trying to tell black people that the Republican party of 2014 is the same Republican party of the mid 1960's?

Really?

The Republican party of 2014, that's been constantly attacking people's basic right to vote since 2011? The same Republican party that gutted the voting rights act in the supreme court last summer of 2013?

Really?

The Republican party of 2014 is still the party of civil rights?

All these former confederate, secession, southern states are now the land of liberals according to Stephen A. Smith?

 

[D0wn]

Not a Kobe fan, but can't even call him a coon.

He wasn't raised like me, he not from where I'm from, so I wouldn't expect him to understand what real brothas already know...smdh

More than one way to be a lost nigga...

black awareness about racism has nothing to do with region

black people world wide face (esp in Europe)

even Africans in their on country face racism and unequality

no excuses this nigga is just wrong

Copper I hear you, but awareness alone is not enough, to expect a nigga like KOBE, to relate to the strife and struggles of a real brotha (in any country). That’s like asking the KLAN to understand why racism is wrong. Yea, the KLAN is aware of racism, but they can’t relate to it because they don’t experience the negative effects of it.

So, it’s reasonable to understand why a nigga like KOBE is lost. His whole perspective is out of whack because he came up in an environment that didn’t produce the types of harsh experiences that most BLACK MEN can relate too.

So, when a nigga like KOBE see’s racism against minorities, he a cause and effect type nigga, what they do to cause this result. Whereas you or I may see the sh!t for what it really is….

I co/ sign the aspect that, Kobe can't relate to economic racism, and never had to, cause of his upbringing.

But theres also the physical/verbal racism aka bigotry.

Which blacks every where face,

Kobe went throught it In the media 1st hand, 10 years ago.

They out here having mock lynches of Obama and he's not fully black.

But Kobe black ass can't relate ?

Billonaire oprah getting it 1st hand, Yet Kobe can't relate? Kobe is just a coon. The higher up you Go As a nigga, the more racist shit gets.

Who get stop more , a nigga in a nice car ,or a nigga in a Hoopty?

Last time I checked, Trayvon Was shOt in a middle class neighborhood. They said He didn't belong There.

So Kobe upbringing ain't Got shit to do with anything. Balotelli is getting bannanas thrown. And he's born and raised in Italy.

Did I forget to mention, plays 4 them 2.

Floyd is rich as fuck , but He understands reality, Kobe is a delusional as nigga,
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...tYHoBQ&usg=AFQjCNG6OGD2hgX1NJEBRby1z-TDQdbywQ

 

[D0wn]

Kobe is A naïve nigger, who’s speak half-truths.  If anything, blacks don’t support each other enough.  

Kobe just wanted to shit on blacks. What Kobe did is  like, solely bringing up black on black crime, and failing to acknowledge that white on white  crime is 86%   out of 250 + milli ,  do the math.  if you wanna say something, say the whole thing, don’t say half the shit.

When other races’ support their own, it’s not a problem. When blacks do it, it’s a problem.

 When Joe Lieberman was running for office, all the Jews supported him, nobody said shit.

When Christine Quinn ran for the primaries in NYC, all the gays supported her nobody said anything.

When Jeremy Linn was hot for 2weeks, and Asians who didn’t know a lick bout basketball, but  supported him cause he was one of their own, nobody said nothing.  

When Kobe   was going through his rape case, for “raping that damsel in distress” them krackers had his jail suit and cell ready, before the facts.

niggaz came out in droves to support him. Kobe didn’t deny our support, he aint tell us to not support him, because we don’t have the facts. He gladly accepted our support.  

The main reason he shitted on Shaq was because, he felt shaq didn’t support him enough. He ain’t ask Shaq to wait for

the facts .

 

[Carthaginian]

The blind obstinacy in this thread is astounding