Kerry Washington Tackles Black "Homophobia" in GLAAD Speech...

[Fosheezy]

Religion is the source of most of the World's ills. Largely because the major religions are all about control.

To call a spade a spade. This is a terrible argument. That's like saying guns are terrible because they kill people all the time. As a rule of thumb, we should never diminish personal responsibility, even though it's the coolest thing to do in America right now. I'm not even sure how the discussion got to this point. It was originally about this one chick lying about how one group of people feels about another.

No, your logic is flawed. A gun is an object. Religion is brainwashing from birth. Every aspect of a religious person's lifestyle, family, attitude, purpose is taken over. It's honestly sad, and as someone who's a former Xtian, I'm glad I woke the fuck up. You talk about personal responsibility, but that's the big issue with religion, right? Everything is "God's Will". It's the biggest copout a person can have.

lol how does the bolded refute the previous point?

Religion isn't some entity of its own that operates independently of people.

 

[Ol Jay's]

so everybody gone act like blacks aren't more accepting of gays than any other race

Let's also pretend most gay communities in big cities aren't located closer to the inner city (hood) than the burbs

Foh with this propaganda, the lbgt movement is just trying to piggy back off the black struggle so they won't have to work from the ground up

 

[powerman 5000]

Religion is the source of most of the World's ills. Largely because the major religions are all about control.

To call a spade a spade. This is a terrible argument. That's like saying guns are terrible because they kill people all the time. As a rule of thumb, we should never diminish personal responsibility, even though it's the coolest thing to do in America right now. I'm not even sure how the discussion got to this point. It was originally about this one chick lying about how one group of people feels about another.

No, your logic is flawed. A gun is an object. Religion is brainwashing from birth. Every aspect of a religious person's lifestyle, family, attitude, purpose is taken over. It's honestly sad, and as someone who's a former Xtian, I'm glad I woke the fuck up. You talk about personal responsibility, but that's the big issue with religion, right? Everything is "God's Will". It's the biggest copout a person can have.

Nah, I'm dead on. A pen in the wrong hands could do more damage than a church full of fools with guns. These are inanimate objects that can hold no responsibility for what someone does with them. If PEOPLE decide to go build schools in Haiti or drink koolaide and die together, that was their decision to do it. You and I both know that. Why is that so hard to comprehend? Here's a link to a gay Episcopalian church:
http://www.episcopalchurch.org/page/lgbt-church

tell me again how religion is standing in the way of gay marriage.Here's a gay mormon church:
http://www.ucc.org/lgbt

Huh? Here's a gay jewish church:
http://www.nehirim.org/

Personal responsibility should be all there is... We'll unless you're white then you have affluenza and rap music to fall back on and it's never your fault. But I digress..... If you're content blaming the tools instead of the hands that use them so be it. Get it how you live.

 

[(Nope)]

@ThaNubianGod

There must be no acceptance of homosexuality. none .

the cracker controls every fucking thing you gonna let him control our sexuality too??? The fuck is wrong with you

LOL, what the hell you mean "our" sexuality? My sexuality's been there since forever, and no amount of phaggotry would change it. The only people who worry about gays, tend to end up being gay themselves. You only hate it because a 2000 year book of myths told you to hate it.

You can't be a Nubian God and be pro-faggot at the same time.

You are basically a fucking fraud right now. The whole if you hate gays then you are gay bullshit is a psychological war tactic invented by faggots to support their movement.

Nah it's from Freud. It's called "Reaction Formation." You're hiding your true feelings by acting the opposite. In other words, you're a faggot.

It's interesting how this flimsy pyschobabble is brought up in regards to Homosexuals.

Detesting rape = Loving rape?

Detesting pedophilia = Loving pedophilia?

You know because, these types didn't choose who they were attracted to and couldn't control their own private parts.

Kwan, however you see it--is moot. At this point in society being gay is not a taboo, whereas the other things you mentioned are, so that's a false equivalency. Being gay might violate informal norms or mores, but it's not a heinous crime met by punishment through legislation. And regarding Freud, if someone was constantly engaged in conversations about pedophilia and rape, I would start to question why. When you are that anxious about something that you let it control your emotions and begin overboarding, I question your motivation. Anyone who is completely preoccupied with something that has no direct effect on them, probably has some ulterior motive.

And for the record, I'm not equating the struggle of so called "new minorities" to black people. I never took a stance in this thread, I called Zombie a faggot... end of story.

 

[Kakarot]

so everybody gone act like blacks aren't more accepting of gays than any other race

Let's also pretend most gay communities in big cities aren't located closer to the inner city (hood) than the burbs

Foh with this propaganda, the lbgt movement is just trying to piggy back off the black struggle so they won't have to work from the ground up

Feminists and LGBT piggy back off the black movement and I think that's dirty, the tend to be the most racist and they will not speak out at the times when black people need it. (Whenever a youth gets shot by a cop).

 

[Knives Amilli]

1.You are arguing semantics. There is no such phobia as Homophobia. Ok it's prejudice. Grow up. We all have our prejudices, your being religion. Welcome to the club.

2. I tried. I have to now implore you to stop flat out lying. You have no such proof of your claims.

3.Again you are a liar. Please point us to mass anti-gay protest prior to gays marching, and demanding that their lifestyle be accepted by all. You keep lying and providing no proof to your claims.

You are now resorting to straw man. I'll play. All uncivilized men and women conduct themselves in ways that are damaging to each other. Civilized men and women irrespective of their religion treat each other with respect and kindness.

They haven't endured our struggle. That is truth and backed by a documented history. You can keep lying all you like. Until you produce anything remotely close to what Blacks have endured in this country and the world over you are a devil spitting trick knowledge. You cannot run your 1st grade history lessons on those who have a knowledge of their history.

Being a man of honor and integrity. I would never condone the killing, jailing, and mistreatment of any group of people. But I will not sit idle while lying scum buckets like you type lines of nothing because, a small group of people are pissed off because, they cannot have a marriage certificate issued by the courts.

When gays, are hung from trees, profiled, stalked, denied education, housing, victims of predatory lending, forced to use gay only water fountains and at the very least have a poodle or shih tzu turned on them for being gay, folks like you haven't a leg to stand on.

1. I have a legit problem with any doctrine that tries to tell people how to live their lives even when what they're doing is innocent and harms no one. I wouldn't call that a prejudice. Prejudice is illogical, rooted in ignorance, fear, and stereotypes.

2. 1 Corinthians 11 "Christ is the head of every man, and a husband the head of his wife, and the head of Christ is God.”

1 Corinthians 14:34-35: "...women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says, If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church."

Ephesians 5:22-24: "Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife...wives should submit to their husbands in everything."

Exodus 21:2-4: "If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing....If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master's, and he shall go out by himself."

Exodus 21:7: "And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do."

Learn how to google bro. Its right fucking there. Scriptures explicitly submitting Women to Men and defining their roles in life.

3. Just as we live in a Patriarchal Eurocentric society, we live in a heteronormative society. We are conditioned to accept heterosexual as the only and absolute. Because of that, LGBT are seen as horrid freaks and are treated as such. Our society implicitly says as much. Boys who are effeminate are ridiculed, beaten, ostracized, called faggot (which is one of the most insulting things you can call a man, wonder fucking why?) and so on and so on.

But choose to be sleep tho.

Ok fine. LGBT have not endured the systematic and characteristic oppression that Blacks have endured. So. The. Fuck. What.

Jews have been persecuted before Europe even knew Africa existed and went through the greatest modern genocide ever. Guess us niggas are a bunch of crybabies who don't deserve any sympathy!

You aint gotta be bleeding to know someone's hurting you bruh. Fuck outta here with shit. Oppression is oppression is oppression. To turn oppression into a pissing contest is shameless, selfish and petty. We cannot build a better world with that mindstate.

We'll have to agree that we disagree.

 

[zombie]

people taking bible verses out of context without explaining them as usual. If only i believed that explaining those verses and Putting them their proper context would smarten some of you idiots up i would do it.

 

[BEAM]

.. You aint gotta be bleeding to know someone's hurting you bruh. Fuck outta here with that shit. Oppression is oppression is oppression. To turn oppression into a pissing contest is shameless, selfish and petty. We cannot build a better world with that mind state ..

 

[Like Water]

All I know is, I have a 7 month old son that's just starting to crawl, babble, teethe and all the other stuff that babies do. I can say, without hesitation, that I would sit in eternal damnation for him. I can not even imagine the thought of him being anything other than "normal", in regards to sexuality. I'd be devastated if it were any other way.

So all you niggas in here that are oh so comfortable with homosexuality being in the same realm as heterosexuality, I hope and pray for your sakes, just as I do mine, that you never encounter your son telling you he has a boyfriend.

Because the age old adage that pertains to fighting can definitely be applied here: Everybody has a plan, until they get punched in the face.

 

[Kakarot]

All I know is, I have a 7 month old son that's just starting to crawl, babble, teethe and all the other stuff that babies do. I can say, without hesitation, that I would sit in eternal damnation for him. I can not even imagine the thought of him being anything other than "normal", in regards to sexuality. I'd be devastated if it were any other way.

So all you niggas in here that are oh so comfortable with homosexuality being in the same realm as heterosexuality, I hope and pray for your sakes, just as I do mine, that you never encounter your son telling you he has a boyfriend.

Because the age old adage that pertains to fighting can definitely be applied here: Everybody has a plan, until they get punched in the face.

When you raise a kid on some man shit, getting into masculine hobbies, sports etc. And the nigga still turn out gay, you know it's not your fault or his because he was probably born that way anyway.

So you can either get comfortable or kick him out when he turns 18.

 

[CapitalB]

She's right. Hating on gays is a white thing. We had no problem reppin Michael Jackson, or Prince, Or Will Smith, or Eddie Murphy, and so on. Half the black entertainers we've had were gay or lesbo, real talk as someone from Hollywood.

My attitude is who cares. The more gay guys there are....the better my chances of smashing a dime. And Black females should be glad because that's less competition for them too.

inb4 people bring up that religious superstition BS.

aye nigga...

u leave Prince and Mike out this shit!!!

imma let that Eddie shit slide..

BUT TREAD LIGHTLY MUTHAFUCKA!

 

[BEAM]

.. I'd be devastated if it were any other way ..

.. Everybody has a plan, until they get punched in the face ..

Nigga, stop fucking Crying.

You know what that pinch in the face is? > LIFE.

Life is bigger than you and your little fears and preferences and shyt;

Especially when it comes to your involvement with other people.

But what's hard for most Parents to understand, is that their Child is their own person FIRST, before Anything else. Their happiness precedes yours, because their life isn't about you; And to ask them to suppress what makes them happy so that you can stay in your bubble is fucking selfish.

Get over yourself, bruh. You have a child now.

 

[Like Water]

.. I'd be devastated if it were any other way ..

.. Everybody has a plan, until they get punched in the face ..

Nigga, stop fucking Crying.

You know what that pinch in the face is? > LIFE.

Life is bigger than you and your little fears and preferences and shyt;

Especially when it comes to your involvement with other people.

But what's hard for most Parents to understand, is that their Child is their own person FIRST, before Anything else. Their happiness precedes yours, because their life isn't about you; And to ask them to suppress what makes them happy so that you can stay in your bubble is fucking selfish.

Get over yourself, bruh. You have a child now.

Yeah, yeah, all that shit sounds great. I'm quite aware of my child's happiness. You come holla at me bout that when you get yours. Until then, I stand by my mindset through and through.

I'm raising my son as my father raised me, and ain't no problems with that in my eyes.

 

[zombie]

.. I'd be devastated if it were any other way ..

.. Everybody has a plan, until they get punched in the face ..

Nigga, stop fucking Crying.

You know what that pinch in the face is? > LIFE.

Life is bigger than you and your little fears and preferences and shyt;

Especially when it comes to your involvement with other people.

But what's hard for most Parents to understand, is that their Child is their own person FIRST, before Anything else. Their happiness precedes yours, because their life isn't about you; And to ask them to suppress what makes them happy so that you can stay in your bubble is fucking selfish.

Get over yourself, bruh. You have a child now.

Go make fucking children then talk .

Adults decide the world their children will live in, it's our responsibility to create the environment that will help them produce the maxium level of happiness for themselves.

WHEN we allow faggots and other deviants to run lose affecting politics and culture we damage our children.

 

[PapaDoc223]

My thing is this black folk still have major problems. Our people is ill and we have to fight for them. Let gays fight they own battles since they wont for us. I am for gays getting married and shit but dont call us homophobes since we have no power. I will fight for my people and will take up another groups struggle because we black folks has been way to forgiving of foreigners but not our own people. Im blacks first and will support my people.

 

[BEAM]

Yeah, yeah, all that shit sounds great. I'm quite aware of my child's happiness. You come holla at me bout that when you get yours. Until then, I stand by my mindset through and through.

I'm raising my son as my father raised me, and ain't no problems with that in my eyes.

I'm sure you believe your values to be noble, but they're selfish; Because you're building your relationship with your child around what makes You happy / comfortable, not your child.

It's time to grow up, fam. You already lived your life.

You have a child now. You can't make their life about you too.

Go make fucking children then talk .

Adults decide the world their children will live in, it's our responsibility to create the environment that will help them produce the maxium level of happiness for themselves.

Exactly, it's your responsibility to help THEM produce THEIR maximum level of happiness;

And if that so happens to include homosexuality, then so be it. Your child's life doesn't revolve around you, bruh.

 

[zombie]

I said this already but i will say it again

many of the problems black homosexuals face will be dealt with simply by ensuring black people as a whole are empowered therefor we don't need to be addressing gay issues.

 

[BEAM]

I said this already but i will say it again

many of the problems black homosexuals face will be dealt with simply by ensuring black people as a whole are empowered therefor we don't need to be addressing gay issues.

The being gay part won't tho, because being Black isn't synonymous with being gay.

But the thing is, Black homosexuals deal with both issues separately, even if simultaneously.

I've never suggested that the tribulations homosexuals face should supersede Our own, because they certainly shouldn't. But they deserve to be addressed as well.

 

[zombie]

Yeah, yeah, all that shit sounds great. I'm quite aware of my child's happiness. You come holla at me bout that when you get yours. Until then, I stand by my mindset through and through.

I'm raising my son as my father raised me, and ain't no problems with that in my eyes.

I'm sure you believe your values to be noble, but they're selfish; Because you're building your relationship with your child around what makes You happy / comfortable, not your child.

It's time to grow up, fam. You already lived your life.

You have a child now. You can't make their life about you too.

Go make fucking children then talk .

Adults decide the world their children will live in, it's our responsibility to create the environment that will help them produce the maxium level of happiness for themselves.

Exactly, it's your responsibility to help THEM produce THEIR maximum level of happiness;

And if that so happens to include homosexuality, then so be it. Your child's life doesn't revolve around you, bruh.

My child won't know what's best for him until his mid 20's do you understand that????? therefore i HAVE to ensure that THE WORLD HE WILL be growing up in is the best one that i can make it to be, and in my estimation homosexuality is not part of that world. So anyway you put it I STILL HAVE THE JOB OF STANDING AGAINST CERTAIN BEHAVIORS AND AGENDAS BECAUSE THEY WILL AFFECT MY FUCKING CHILD.

you conveniently knocked off the other part of my statement

 

[Kakarot]

Yeah, yeah, all that shit sounds great. I'm quite aware of my child's happiness. You come holla at me bout that when you get yours. Until then, I stand by my mindset through and through.

I'm raising my son as my father raised me, and ain't no problems with that in my eyes.

I'm sure you believe your values to be noble, but they're selfish; Because you're building your relationship with your child around what makes You happy / comfortable, not your child.

It's time to grow up, fam. You already lived your life.

You have a child now. You can't make their life about you too.

Go make fucking children then talk .

Adults decide the world their children will live in, it's our responsibility to create the environment that will help them produce the maxium level of happiness for themselves.

Exactly, it's your responsibility to help THEM produce THEIR maximum level of happiness;

And if that so happens to include homosexuality, then so be it. Your child's life doesn't revolve around you, bruh.

My child won't know what's best for him until his mid 20's do you understand that????? therefore i HAVE to ensure that THE WORLD HE WILL be growing up in is the best one that i can make it to be and in my estimation homosexuality is not part of that world so anyway you put it I STILL HAVE THE JOB OF STANDING AGAINST CERTAIN BEHAVIORS AND AGENDAS BECAUSE THEY WILL AFFECT MY FUCKING CHILD.

Holy smokes this seems to be a hot button issue with people.