Kendrick Lamar - "To Pimp a Butterfly"

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EyeofAsaru;7902356 said:
JDSTAYWITIT.;7902284 said:
EyeofAsaru;7901918 said:
Nas Nigger album was more pro black,metaphysical,insightful etc..you heard nas even rapping about ufos and ancient Caucasians being cannibals

I love kendricks new album but people really need to stop gassing it like its the deepest piece of work out there...kendricks music intellectually speaking is on a kindergarten level in the "rabbit hole"

Expound on who Lucifer is mr Lamar... complexion DOES mean something..melanin has powers..explain why Wesley got audited..

Kendrick shows classic Gemini traits of superficial deepness..geminis are great magical orators but they themselves can sometimes be vain..that control verse was narcissistic vanity at its finest...he has supreme skills in delivery but he needs more substance..he still has room for more growth

He sounds deep to the uninitiated

This is classic straw man shit ...lol ...if this nigga was running around saying I'm the deepest philosopher in all of mandkind look at me look at me I'm so deep ...you would have a valid criticism in regards to the music ..I don't think he portrays himself as this at all ..that's just some internalized shit your projecting based on what this random nigga or that random nigga is saying about the music ...to criticize his message and it's delivery because of what some other motherfucka interprets about him is pretty silly and ironically hollow tbh

There's nothing overtly superficial in these themes ..I think the questions your asking to be answered are pretty much patently implied ...it's rather obvious who the "lucifer" character is meant to personify I mean why do you think theres a decrepit white regan knockoff looking muthafucka dead on the front cover of the album?? Lol ...it's clearly stated why Wesley was hounded and while I can understand your point in regards to expounding on the power of melanin I think it's also reasonable to understand that some of these topics are more easily digested and understood to particular audiences when not delivered in an overly maticulous fashion ...the record ..i believe ..is again targeting a different audience than a person who listens to shit like immortal technique and killah priest and lupe fiasco all day ...there ain't nothing wrong with dropping some shit that's accessible ..yea of course there are other artist that obviously go more in depth about some of the shit that he's talking about ..but.. there's also a reason those other artists fanbases have only reached "cult" status instead of connecting with the mases

I respect your perception...however its 2015 and we are in a age of information...when is it going to be a proper time for the masses to receive more esoteric information in the music?..When aliens land in front of your face and tell you personally that in the grand scheme of things these "race wars" are only distractions to what's really going on?..There are krazy things happening on this planet that people need to be informed of and get prepared to experience..Black people are generally walking around with toxic melanin not conscious of their higher selves..Instead of regurgitating the same ol illusions of black power with Christian(a slavery relegion which is so antiblack)themes, Kendrick should be pushing the envelope further like ab soul did..Ab soul is more in tune with what's really happening these days and what really matters...Niggas are on this super black power trip yet are still employed by Jews

Maybe it is the "masses" who need to step their game up..

Why play like you really challenging ppls mind? Nigga just go ahead and REALLY challenge ppls perceptions like Nas did

It used to be a time when deeper spirituality and topics were "Accessible"..ppl have just been dumbed down by what they think they want

At the end of the day it's about what these radio programmers want to push. That simple. If they want simple negative catchy shit. That what they will play. And the artist will make music like that to get on the radio. Styles P made I get high and got mad spins. He made I'm Black and got pushed to the side. The only way to side step radio is to create a fan base and have your music playing in so many other places where radio will chase you.(the artist).
 
HitAfterHitBeats;7903774 said:
Album will be dope! FREE BEATS ON MY CHANNEL FOR RAPPERS,SINGERS AND ARTISTS @youtube HITAFERHITBEATS

Album "will" be dope? It's been out. Fuck outta here with your lame excuse for trying to get us to listen to your beats. Prolly made it on a fiends Casio keyboard like on Hustle and Flow.
 
AggyAF;7903510 said:
Sorry of posted before but allegedly dre did produce on this album
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I knew Dre was on this particular joint.

 
I didn't see his name when I checked for the song credits on the album booklet though

But that song sounds eerily like a Dr. Dre production
 
MrCrookedLetter;7903961 said:
AggyAF;7903510 said:
Sorry of posted before but allegedly dre did produce on this album
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ROZAYTABERNACLE;7903576 said:
AggyAF;7903510 said:
Sorry of posted before but allegedly dre did produce on this album
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I just pulled it up on my itunes and it doesn't have A. Young there.

Yall do know Dr. Dre is LoveDragon right?

Source? I looked this up and seen only a rumor that it was Dre.
 
can someone post the tracklist for the deluxe version? its 15.00 on google play and 13 bucks at best buy for deluxe version im just trying to make sure I get all the songs. But I also want it on my phone CDs are so old fasion
 
texas409;7904515 said:
can someone post the tracklist for the deluxe version? its 15.00 on google play and 13 bucks at best buy for deluxe version im just trying to make sure I get all the songs. But I also want it on my phone CDs are so old fasion

there is no delux version holmes
 
JDSTAYWITIT.;7904535 said:
texas409;7904515 said:
can someone post the tracklist for the deluxe version? its 15.00 on google play and 13 bucks at best buy for deluxe version im just trying to make sure I get all the songs. But I also want it on my phone CDs are so old fasion

there is no delux version holmes

im looking at it on Best buys website right now but it doesnt have the track listing
 
What a dollar cost is a fucking classic

I said it..its beautiful..the mood,the story,the delivery..

It's obvious everybody doesn't listen to music to the same way
 
power_wisdom;7903689 said:
EyeofAsaru;7902356 said:
JDSTAYWITIT.;7902284 said:
EyeofAsaru;7901918 said:
Nas Nigger album was more pro black,metaphysical,insightful etc..you heard nas even rapping about ufos and ancient Caucasians being cannibals

I love kendricks new album but people really need to stop gassing it like its the deepest piece of work out there...kendricks music intellectually speaking is on a kindergarten level in the "rabbit hole"

Expound on who Lucifer is mr Lamar... complexion DOES mean something..melanin has powers..explain why Wesley got audited..

Kendrick shows classic Gemini traits of superficial deepness..geminis are great magical orators but they themselves can sometimes be vain..that control verse was narcissistic vanity at its finest...he has supreme skills in delivery but he needs more substance..he still has room for more growth

He sounds deep to the uninitiated

This is classic straw man shit ...lol ...if this nigga was running around saying I'm the deepest philosopher in all of mandkind look at me look at me I'm so deep ...you would have a valid criticism in regards to the music ..I don't think he portrays himself as this at all ..that's just some internalized shit your projecting based on what this random nigga or that random nigga is saying about the music ...to criticize his message and it's delivery because of what some other motherfucka interprets about him is pretty silly and ironically hollow tbh

There's nothing overtly superficial in these themes ..I think the questions your asking to be answered are pretty much patently implied ...it's rather obvious who the "lucifer" character is meant to personify I mean why do you think theres a decrepit white regan knockoff looking muthafucka dead on the front cover of the album?? Lol ...it's clearly stated why Wesley was hounded and while I can understand your point in regards to expounding on the power of melanin I think it's also reasonable to understand that some of these topics are more easily digested and understood to particular audiences when not delivered in an overly maticulous fashion ...the record ..i believe ..is again targeting a different audience than a person who listens to shit like immortal technique and killah priest and lupe fiasco all day ...there ain't nothing wrong with dropping some shit that's accessible ..yea of course there are other artist that obviously go more in depth about some of the shit that he's talking about ..but.. there's also a reason those other artists fanbases have only reached "cult" status instead of connecting with the mases

I respect your perception...however its 2015 and we are in a age of information...when is it going to be a proper time for the masses to receive more esoteric information in the music?..When aliens land in front of your face and tell you personally that in the grand scheme of things these "race wars" are only distractions to what's really going on?..There are krazy things happening on this planet that people need to be informed of and get prepared to experience..Black people are generally walking around with toxic melanin not conscious of their higher selves..Instead of regurgitating the same ol illusions of black power with Christian(a slavery relegion which is so antiblack)themes, Kendrick should be pushing the envelope further like ab soul did..Ab soul is more in tune with what's really happening these days and what really matters...Niggas are on this super black power trip yet are still employed by Jews

Maybe it is the "masses" who need to step their game up..

Why play like you really challenging ppls mind? Nigga just go ahead and REALLY challenge ppls perceptions like Nas did

It used to be a time when deeper spirituality and topics were "Accessible"..ppl have just been dumbed down by what they think they want

At the end of the day it's about what these radio programmers want to push. That simple. If they want simple negative catchy shit. That what they will play. And the artist will make music like that to get on the radio. Styles P made I get high and got mad spins. He made I'm Black and got pushed to the side. The only way to side step radio is to create a fan base and have your music playing in so many other places where radio will chase you.(the artist).

In my opinion I think the masses play a larger role in this than many would like to believe. Ultimately the radio programmers are going to play whatever makes the most money. The masses as a collective don't have the love and passion for music to listen intently to lyrics, production and things like that and many listen to music passively just to relax, have fun, and escape from their day to day. I acknowledge that there's an agenda to cast minorities in a certain light, but I think that ultimately money trumps all. If everybody was thirsty and banging down the doors of Best Buy for that new Dead Prez than the radio would be playing the hell out of some Dead Prez.
 
G.Avant;7905342 said:
power_wisdom;7903689 said:
EyeofAsaru;7902356 said:
JDSTAYWITIT.;7902284 said:
EyeofAsaru;7901918 said:
Nas Nigger album was more pro black,metaphysical,insightful etc..you heard nas even rapping about ufos and ancient Caucasians being cannibals

I love kendricks new album but people really need to stop gassing it like its the deepest piece of work out there...kendricks music intellectually speaking is on a kindergarten level in the "rabbit hole"

Expound on who Lucifer is mr Lamar... complexion DOES mean something..melanin has powers..explain why Wesley got audited..

Kendrick shows classic Gemini traits of superficial deepness..geminis are great magical orators but they themselves can sometimes be vain..that control verse was narcissistic vanity at its finest...he has supreme skills in delivery but he needs more substance..he still has room for more growth

He sounds deep to the uninitiated

This is classic straw man shit ...lol ...if this nigga was running around saying I'm the deepest philosopher in all of mandkind look at me look at me I'm so deep ...you would have a valid criticism in regards to the music ..I don't think he portrays himself as this at all ..that's just some internalized shit your projecting based on what this random nigga or that random nigga is saying about the music ...to criticize his message and it's delivery because of what some other motherfucka interprets about him is pretty silly and ironically hollow tbh

There's nothing overtly superficial in these themes ..I think the questions your asking to be answered are pretty much patently implied ...it's rather obvious who the "lucifer" character is meant to personify I mean why do you think theres a decrepit white regan knockoff looking muthafucka dead on the front cover of the album?? Lol ...it's clearly stated why Wesley was hounded and while I can understand your point in regards to expounding on the power of melanin I think it's also reasonable to understand that some of these topics are more easily digested and understood to particular audiences when not delivered in an overly maticulous fashion ...the record ..i believe ..is again targeting a different audience than a person who listens to shit like immortal technique and killah priest and lupe fiasco all day ...there ain't nothing wrong with dropping some shit that's accessible ..yea of course there are other artist that obviously go more in depth about some of the shit that he's talking about ..but.. there's also a reason those other artists fanbases have only reached "cult" status instead of connecting with the mases

I respect your perception...however its 2015 and we are in a age of information...when is it going to be a proper time for the masses to receive more esoteric information in the music?..When aliens land in front of your face and tell you personally that in the grand scheme of things these "race wars" are only distractions to what's really going on?..There are krazy things happening on this planet that people need to be informed of and get prepared to experience..Black people are generally walking around with toxic melanin not conscious of their higher selves..Instead of regurgitating the same ol illusions of black power with Christian(a slavery relegion which is so antiblack)themes, Kendrick should be pushing the envelope further like ab soul did..Ab soul is more in tune with what's really happening these days and what really matters...Niggas are on this super black power trip yet are still employed by Jews

Maybe it is the "masses" who need to step their game up..

Why play like you really challenging ppls mind? Nigga just go ahead and REALLY challenge ppls perceptions like Nas did

It used to be a time when deeper spirituality and topics were "Accessible"..ppl have just been dumbed down by what they think they want

At the end of the day it's about what these radio programmers want to push. That simple. If they want simple negative catchy shit. That what they will play. And the artist will make music like that to get on the radio. Styles P made I get high and got mad spins. He made I'm Black and got pushed to the side. The only way to side step radio is to create a fan base and have your music playing in so many other places where radio will chase you.(the artist).

In my opinion I think the masses play a larger role in this than many would like to believe. Ultimately the radio programmers are going to play whatever makes the most money. The masses as a collective don't have the love and passion for music to listen intently to lyrics, production and things like that and many listen to music passively just to relax, have fun, and escape from their day to day. I acknowledge that there's an agenda to cast minorities in a certain light, but I think that ultimately money trumps all. If everybody was thirsty and banging down the doors of Best Buy for that new Dead Prez than the radio would be playing the hell out of some Dead Prez.

Really? So you've never wondered why the artists with the most spins are still selling like wood while Cole and Kendrick slide past gold easy? Rae Shremmerd put up T&Y and B4 numbers but which one gets more commercial spins?
 
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Listencloser;7905362 said:
G.Avant;7905342 said:
power_wisdom;7903689 said:
EyeofAsaru;7902356 said:
JDSTAYWITIT.;7902284 said:
EyeofAsaru;7901918 said:
Nas Nigger album was more pro black,metaphysical,insightful etc..you heard nas even rapping about ufos and ancient Caucasians being cannibals

I love kendricks new album but people really need to stop gassing it like its the deepest piece of work out there...kendricks music intellectually speaking is on a kindergarten level in the "rabbit hole"

Expound on who Lucifer is mr Lamar... complexion DOES mean something..melanin has powers..explain why Wesley got audited..

Kendrick shows classic Gemini traits of superficial deepness..geminis are great magical orators but they themselves can sometimes be vain..that control verse was narcissistic vanity at its finest...he has supreme skills in delivery but he needs more substance..he still has room for more growth

He sounds deep to the uninitiated

This is classic straw man shit ...lol ...if this nigga was running around saying I'm the deepest philosopher in all of mandkind look at me look at me I'm so deep ...you would have a valid criticism in regards to the music ..I don't think he portrays himself as this at all ..that's just some internalized shit your projecting based on what this random nigga or that random nigga is saying about the music ...to criticize his message and it's delivery because of what some other motherfucka interprets about him is pretty silly and ironically hollow tbh

There's nothing overtly superficial in these themes ..I think the questions your asking to be answered are pretty much patently implied ...it's rather obvious who the "lucifer" character is meant to personify I mean why do you think theres a decrepit white regan knockoff looking muthafucka dead on the front cover of the album?? Lol ...it's clearly stated why Wesley was hounded and while I can understand your point in regards to expounding on the power of melanin I think it's also reasonable to understand that some of these topics are more easily digested and understood to particular audiences when not delivered in an overly maticulous fashion ...the record ..i believe ..is again targeting a different audience than a person who listens to shit like immortal technique and killah priest and lupe fiasco all day ...there ain't nothing wrong with dropping some shit that's accessible ..yea of course there are other artist that obviously go more in depth about some of the shit that he's talking about ..but.. there's also a reason those other artists fanbases have only reached "cult" status instead of connecting with the mases

I respect your perception...however its 2015 and we are in a age of information...when is it going to be a proper time for the masses to receive more esoteric information in the music?..When aliens land in front of your face and tell you personally that in the grand scheme of things these "race wars" are only distractions to what's really going on?..There are krazy things happening on this planet that people need to be informed of and get prepared to experience..Black people are generally walking around with toxic melanin not conscious of their higher selves..Instead of regurgitating the same ol illusions of black power with Christian(a slavery relegion which is so antiblack)themes, Kendrick should be pushing the envelope further like ab soul did..Ab soul is more in tune with what's really happening these days and what really matters...Niggas are on this super black power trip yet are still employed by Jews

Maybe it is the "masses" who need to step their game up..

Why play like you really challenging ppls mind? Nigga just go ahead and REALLY challenge ppls perceptions like Nas did

It used to be a time when deeper spirituality and topics were "Accessible"..ppl have just been dumbed down by what they think they want

At the end of the day it's about what these radio programmers want to push. That simple. If they want simple negative catchy shit. That what they will play. And the artist will make music like that to get on the radio. Styles P made I get high and got mad spins. He made I'm Black and got pushed to the side. The only way to side step radio is to create a fan base and have your music playing in so many other places where radio will chase you.(the artist).

In my opinion I think the masses play a larger role in this than many would like to believe. Ultimately the radio programmers are going to play whatever makes the most money. The masses as a collective don't have the love and passion for music to listen intently to lyrics, production and things like that and many listen to music passively just to relax, have fun, and escape from their day to day. I acknowledge that there's an agenda to cast minorities in a certain light, but I think that ultimately money trumps all. If everybody was thirsty and banging down the doors of Best Buy for that new Dead Prez than the radio would be playing the hell out of some Dead Prez.

Really? So you've never wondered why the artists with the most spins are still selling like wood while Cole and Kendrick slide past gold easy? Rae Shremmerd put up T&Y and B4 numbers but which one gets more commercial spins?

I haven't listened to the radio too frequently for a minute, but i know that when I was listening Kendrick & Cole was in rotation on the reg. Rae Sremmurd does get heavy spins, so if they aint sell shit, then you make a solid point.
 

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