JDSTAYWITIT
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(ob)Scene;7876278 said:
riiiigggght riiiiighhht riiiiiiight ... thats good shit ..i fucks with that
riiiigggght riiiiighhht riiiiiiight ... thats good shit ..i fucks with that
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IceBergTaylor;7876285 said:
Time for Ye to push that album back, smoke a blunt, listen to College Dropout, and realize how dope he was when he was on some regular human shit. Not that Niggas In Paris, fighting tabloids, my shoes cost more than Jordans ass nigga.
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great conceptually and lyrically but the beats for the most part were a little to Quikish for me.
Definitely not the best album of 2015 so far...
Definitely not the best album of 2015 so far...
EyeofAsaru
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Kanye needs to fall back with his fake "for the cause" stance
He lost his soul a long time ago..alot of what he's been doing these years have been pro-European and damn near anti black..
Yeezus had disgusting lines that seemingly made a mockery of his own culture and race...
Black skinhead? New slaves? No nigga we are neither...
You "black power fisting" black women?
Like real talk what the fuck is wrong with this guy? White people have successfully shifted his DNA and converted his frequency into that of a Caucasian mindset and culture..
He's hybridizing blackness with whiteness...this is further proven by him choosing to produce offspring with Kim kardashion...
White ppl in the industry tried to do this to Pac... Yet Pac never fully converted..before he passed u can hear him in interviews saying "I look in the mirror and see that my soul is still there,I didn't sell it"...
Just shows you that the new generation of conscious emcees are more prone to diluting themselves to appease the white supremacy system... Hopefully Kendrick maintains his integrity and doesn't get his frequency shifted to the "light of chaos"
Stay in the darkness my brotha
He lost his soul a long time ago..alot of what he's been doing these years have been pro-European and damn near anti black..
Yeezus had disgusting lines that seemingly made a mockery of his own culture and race...
Black skinhead? New slaves? No nigga we are neither...
You "black power fisting" black women?
Like real talk what the fuck is wrong with this guy? White people have successfully shifted his DNA and converted his frequency into that of a Caucasian mindset and culture..
He's hybridizing blackness with whiteness...this is further proven by him choosing to produce offspring with Kim kardashion...
White ppl in the industry tried to do this to Pac... Yet Pac never fully converted..before he passed u can hear him in interviews saying "I look in the mirror and see that my soul is still there,I didn't sell it"...
Just shows you that the new generation of conscious emcees are more prone to diluting themselves to appease the white supremacy system... Hopefully Kendrick maintains his integrity and doesn't get his frequency shifted to the "light of chaos"
Stay in the darkness my brotha
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EyeofAsaru;7876688 said:
I agree with what you trying to say however I think you executed it wrong in your post
OK first listen:
Kendricks Album is like Common's BE like @stew said
Really good album with NO so-called "bangers" that can not be summed up in 1 track and has to be heard in it's entirety to be fully understood.
It's a "cant see the forest from the trees" type of album. Just like you cant fully appreciate a painting with just one slice of the image you can not appreciate "To Pimp A Butterfly" by just listening to one track or even half the album.
You have to listen to it ALL and if you dont appreciate it by the time you're done well...I feel for you because there isn't uch out there in the mainstream that even comes to close to the artistry Kendrick displays and has displayed for 2 albums straight (not counting mixtapes).
And "Mortal Man" was a hell of a concept.
OK...THAT'S MY OPINION AND I'M STICKING TO IT.
Kendricks Album is like Common's BE like @stew said
Really good album with NO so-called "bangers" that can not be summed up in 1 track and has to be heard in it's entirety to be fully understood.
It's a "cant see the forest from the trees" type of album. Just like you cant fully appreciate a painting with just one slice of the image you can not appreciate "To Pimp A Butterfly" by just listening to one track or even half the album.
You have to listen to it ALL and if you dont appreciate it by the time you're done well...I feel for you because there isn't uch out there in the mainstream that even comes to close to the artistry Kendrick displays and has displayed for 2 albums straight (not counting mixtapes).
And "Mortal Man" was a hell of a concept.
OK...THAT'S MY OPINION AND I'M STICKING TO IT.
JDSTAYWITIT
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So... the two hoodrats on "for free" = Lady Liberty (well the embodiment of the of her/america metaphorically speaking) and the strain that her ideals have put on black men in American society ...shes supposed to represent all of the freedoms that this country is supposedly rooted out of but in reality all we've seen or received is a perversion of freedom ...
I think that's what leads Kendrick into that poem about his manhood not being "free" ... his dignity/integrity as an artist as a person isn't in the hands of american idealism or anyone's for that matter ...its in his own hands and he's controlling the direction not anyone else.. i think that's one of the main themes that helped craft this record and a theme that reoccurs ... i mean look at that album cover .. that's a nigga that don't give 2 fucks about perception ..its embodied perfectly in that photo.. (where he's mocking a stereotype from the dominant society of "niggas gone wild" with a few trinkets) and on other songs like "TBTB" & on the hook on of "Institutionalized" ...
It's also interesting that the two girls mention getting their "Uncle Sam" on Kendrick as punishment for not living up to their expectations and doing what they want him to do ... "Uncle Sam" being another name for the IRS which leads back to the opening track .. "Wesley's Theory" talking about Wes being sentenced to jail time for tax evasion after he had made a bunch of money in the entertainment industry.. seems as tho they are hanging this over his head if he doesn't acquiesce to their desires and demands
I think that's what leads Kendrick into that poem about his manhood not being "free" ... his dignity/integrity as an artist as a person isn't in the hands of american idealism or anyone's for that matter ...its in his own hands and he's controlling the direction not anyone else.. i think that's one of the main themes that helped craft this record and a theme that reoccurs ... i mean look at that album cover .. that's a nigga that don't give 2 fucks about perception ..its embodied perfectly in that photo.. (where he's mocking a stereotype from the dominant society of "niggas gone wild" with a few trinkets) and on other songs like "TBTB" & on the hook on of "Institutionalized" ...
It's also interesting that the two girls mention getting their "Uncle Sam" on Kendrick as punishment for not living up to their expectations and doing what they want him to do ... "Uncle Sam" being another name for the IRS which leads back to the opening track .. "Wesley's Theory" talking about Wes being sentenced to jail time for tax evasion after he had made a bunch of money in the entertainment industry.. seems as tho they are hanging this over his head if he doesn't acquiesce to their desires and demands
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Breezy_Kilroy
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King Kunta got a nigga like
Already Home_17
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opening track...
LcnsdbyROYALTY
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This. dick. ain't. freeeeeeee!
Ctfu. GOAT shyt.
Ctfu. GOAT shyt.
texasdaking88
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IceBergTaylor;7876282 said:Peezy_Jenkins;7876259 said:IceBergTaylor;7876063 said:G.Avant;7875877 said:IceBergTaylor;7875602 said:
Who on his level then, Wiz??
Kendrick is nice..... he's doesnt have this huge distance over the field (J. Cole, Wale, Krit. Lupe, Drake)
this is truth, but u might as well can say no one is quite on their collective level.
As a collective they are all dope in their own way. If someone says "I like such and such better" cool but its wack IMO when folks make it seem like none of those other niggas aint shit compared to Kendrick.
This... They wanna make him out to be this lyrical messiah but he isnt... Hes really good at times but he does nothing the rest of his peers (cole, wale, krit) cant do...i love the message of this album tho
Swiffness!
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Mic Tyson was my AOTY for 2012. GKMC was cool but a little overrated. (fuck those drake and dre songs) I knew his 2nd album would be better.
So happy he put Rapsody on. Snoop's feature was crazy. And a Flying Lotus sighting!
He definitely took the Nirvana/Kurt Cobain approach to a sophomore album - "fuck commercial hits, let's get deep"
Any radio station playing the Mark Ronson/Bruno Mars joint could prolly play a radio edit of King Kunta tho.
JDSTAYWITIT
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If you listen to "For Free?" & "For Sale?" you pretty much get what the internal struggle of the album is all about ... basically as a artist as a man in this country you work hard to cultivate and craft your art .. your skill ... whatever that may be .. so you take pride in it .. and obviously place value on it ..and since you don't wont to feel exploited .. you will go out of your way to make sure your not used "for free" in a literal sense ..
HOWEVER ... this society has its way of getting you by hook or by crook .. so when you go into "For Sale" its another internal struggle that an artist ..a man .. has to deal with ... you have to ask yourself .. well if your not for free .. then you must be "for sell" ... correct?? it has to be one way or another ... but the question is ...is there really a difference?? is the choice ultimately not just a double edge sword?? sure you get the money the fame the popularity .. all of these trinkets that the character "Lucy/Lucifer" has to offer ... but now your someones property .. your under someones control because your indebted to their cash flow for support ... you owe them your time your energy your life in a way ... and while most people will sign up for that all day .. there's real cost that come with that .. the detachment from the place & people that made you ...you... not being their for your sister who gets pregnant as a teenager when your preaching to crowds about self awareness ..having friends get killed and you cant even visit them in the hospital because of "obligations"
This album is essentially Kendrick explaining the complexities of what happens when you pluck a young black man out of an ostracized cast way land ..give him fame gratification and riches and tell him to adjust to this new world on the fly .. he is trying to deal with balance of "normalcy" especially coming from such humble beginnings ... cleverly he correlates his tale with that of another "rose from concrete" so to speak in Pac.. pretty much Pac is his guidance ..and he's telling the story of the album to him in bits and pieces stopping where every he see's a simularity with a situation Pac also went thru.. leading up to the end where he finally gets to talk to his guru ..but obviously a person can only lead/teach you so far before its time to tackle life on your own ..and that's where the album ends
HOWEVER ... this society has its way of getting you by hook or by crook .. so when you go into "For Sale" its another internal struggle that an artist ..a man .. has to deal with ... you have to ask yourself .. well if your not for free .. then you must be "for sell" ... correct?? it has to be one way or another ... but the question is ...is there really a difference?? is the choice ultimately not just a double edge sword?? sure you get the money the fame the popularity .. all of these trinkets that the character "Lucy/Lucifer" has to offer ... but now your someones property .. your under someones control because your indebted to their cash flow for support ... you owe them your time your energy your life in a way ... and while most people will sign up for that all day .. there's real cost that come with that .. the detachment from the place & people that made you ...you... not being their for your sister who gets pregnant as a teenager when your preaching to crowds about self awareness ..having friends get killed and you cant even visit them in the hospital because of "obligations"
This album is essentially Kendrick explaining the complexities of what happens when you pluck a young black man out of an ostracized cast way land ..give him fame gratification and riches and tell him to adjust to this new world on the fly .. he is trying to deal with balance of "normalcy" especially coming from such humble beginnings ... cleverly he correlates his tale with that of another "rose from concrete" so to speak in Pac.. pretty much Pac is his guidance ..and he's telling the story of the album to him in bits and pieces stopping where every he see's a simularity with a situation Pac also went thru.. leading up to the end where he finally gets to talk to his guru ..but obviously a person can only lead/teach you so far before its time to tackle life on your own ..and that's where the album ends
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One of the worst albums I heard in awhile
JDSTAYWITIT
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zombie;7876967 said:
I Am Jay Pee;7876969 said:
....Suffering From Poverty Eardrum Syndrome Perhaps?
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