Kanye West is much better than Jay-Z OVERALL.

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Kanye is behind Jay-Z lyrically and as far as originality goes, that's subjective. What's your point anyway?
 
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Hes always been dope as a producer. Lyrically, he still got some catching up to do. But nobody is fucking with his creativity. I cant think of an MC that can produce was well as he has and was still a viable artist. Meaning he is in high demand for both his qualities. He could be not just a great producer, but a great artist when its all said and done.
 
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jay-z would lyrically rap circles around kanye west and not mention he has a better discography then kanye
 
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I kinda want to know who he compares to in terms of being a good lyricist and producer combo......nobody really. Scarface comes to mind, but he was never in high demand as a producer
 
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soul rattler;2059480 said:
Kanye is behind Jay-Z lyrically and as far as originality goes, that's subjective. What's your point anyway?

Good question!

Nah for real I totally fucked up the presentation of this thread and thought.

What I'm really trying to say is that Kanye is on some other shit that has never been replicated, even by his 'big brother'.

I've been up on Kanye since 10 years ago, and I'm just proud of him, that's all.
 
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juelz21;2059485 said:
jay-z would lyrically rap circles around kanye west and not mention he has a better discography then kanye

True, but can jay make a beat like kanye...no which overall makes him more versatile
 
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As an all around artist Kanye > Jay. But only cuz his beats are ill and his raps are ill.

But straight spittin? Jigga got him beat.
 
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bigrizz;2059487 said:
I kinda want to know who he compares to in terms of being a good lyricist and producer combo......nobody really. Scarface comes to mind, but he was never in high demand as a producer

Exactly!

Kanye did and is doing shit that nobody has ever done before - he's EXTREMELY talented at the MAIN focus points of this game.
 
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With that said nobody is really fucking with Kanye in that rapper producer combo...Eric sermon???
 
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Darxwell;2059492 said:
As an all around artist Kanye > Jay. But only cuz his beats are ill and his raps are ill.

But straight spittin? Jigga got him beat.

Agreed, and I hope everybody realizes this.

I'm just saying OVERALL, Kanye is the most talented.
 
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you might mean ye better than jay now. overall thats rewriting history. i dont like ye voice like that, but he is creative lyrically. production of course he got jay. but ye got nice rappin like what 05......jay ran clubs 98-03 and and made hits till 2010. ye got a way to go to fuck with that imo.....best hip hop artist of all time? i dont know about that, other niggas have had better mic presence and energy (dmx, nas, 3000, ghost, big, pac, a lot of others.....)
 
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Shit, I give Jay-Z props for giving Kanye the platform to shine.

Can you imagine if Birdman was the one who gave Ye his chance?
 
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But Jay-z needs Kanye. A just blaze. Kanye doesnt need to pay any producer. He can rap on his own shit

Hell, everyones top 5 couldnt do an album alone..kanye could

Kanye = most complete hip hop artist ever?
 
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son of 1973;2059502 said:
you might mean ye better than jay now. overall thats rewriting history. i dont like ye voice like that, but he is creative lyrically. production of course he got jay. but ye got nice rappin like what 05......jay ran clubs 98-03 and and made hits till 2010. ye got a way to go to fuck with that imo.....best hip hop artist of all time? i dont know about that, other niggas have had better mic presence and energy (dmx, nas, 3000, ghost, big, pac, a lot of others.....)

agreed excpet that ye isnt better than jay. I just start listening to jay before the black albume(that when i got on him), i'm really recognize the work he has put in. Ye cold and been my nigga since he dropped, but jay is top 5 doa!
 
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Put it this way.

Compare the MUSICAL talent of 50 Cent and Kanye West.

Kanye absolutely DESTROYS 50 in every, way, shape, and form. And 50 is a hip hop legend.
 
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I always liked havoc as a producer, and he ended up outshining P a few times. He just hasnt had the commerical success kanye has
 
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