I wonder if there was a real life counterpart to Daniel (Danny) Ocean: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Ocean
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Just got finished watching "Paid In Full", and gotta ask this question...
ShencotheMC
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Do y'all understand how much planning you gotta go through to perform a heist? lol
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James Bond's lifestyle >>>>> Marlo's lifestyle
SMH @ living in dirty ass Harlem fucking raggedy hood bitches when you could be in Monaco eating crab meats and pineapples fucking french/brazilian mixed ass models.
SMH @ driving your Bentley around D.C. when you could be riding an Aston Martin off of the Aegean coast where Achilles slayed Hector
SMH @ living in dirty ass Harlem fucking raggedy hood bitches when you could be in Monaco eating crab meats and pineapples fucking french/brazilian mixed ass models.
SMH @ driving your Bentley around D.C. when you could be riding an Aston Martin off of the Aegean coast where Achilles slayed Hector
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ShencotheMC
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Dilla Nevada;3028795 said:
Man we'd need cats from all different walks of life with different talents to come together to perform a successful heist
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I know one thing u niggas better quit cornbreading this thread up with the movie shit ....
back to the original topic at hand ....
back to the original topic at hand ....
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Recaptimus_Prime360
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BoYBe$T;3028978 said:
speak on it then brotha. someone made a good point earlier tho. if ace had the cash stashed @ his aunt's crib, why didn't he have "security" there 24/7?
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Sh0t;3026666 said:
naw fuck that... its not only that hes snitching... but its the way he's snitching... niggas saying names of people that had nothing to do with his business ( bringing up past girls names and shit)... it burns my soul...
im far from a gangster ( what ever that means) but there is a code that you dont break as a man... and theres also supposed to be a honor amongst thieves... Po is a coward... if youre in the lifestyle you suppose to make your bed and lay in it.... the death penalty is a excuse...
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Most people facing serious time that don't snitch never get the opportunity to. They don't offer everybody deals, just a few. I'm sure most that are offered take them, or some part of them.
It's rare for people to not snitch without any outside motivation. Some people don't snitch to keep their families out of jail, or because they fear reprisals on their families from the other side. Very few don't snitch due to honor. DAs don't offer deals to everybody.
There is no honor amongst thieves. Thieves want outsides to think that, in order to earn trust, but they'll break their word and betray you as soon as it's convenient.
These same people will break tons of codes related to the streets, double crossing each other, killing each other, sleeping with their man's girl, and tons of other shady shit, yet the minute they get arrested, suddenly honor is involved? Yea ok
Here's another one:
http://motionempire.com/Watch_The_S...-2008-_Documentary_Online_for_Free_63370.html
Story of Preacher, mentioned from the Alpo and AZ stories
It's rare for people to not snitch without any outside motivation. Some people don't snitch to keep their families out of jail, or because they fear reprisals on their families from the other side. Very few don't snitch due to honor. DAs don't offer deals to everybody.
There is no honor amongst thieves. Thieves want outsides to think that, in order to earn trust, but they'll break their word and betray you as soon as it's convenient.
These same people will break tons of codes related to the streets, double crossing each other, killing each other, sleeping with their man's girl, and tons of other shady shit, yet the minute they get arrested, suddenly honor is involved? Yea ok
Here's another one:
http://motionempire.com/Watch_The_S...-2008-_Documentary_Online_for_Free_63370.html
Story of Preacher, mentioned from the Alpo and AZ stories
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Sh0t;3029962 said:
Actually the DA offer deals to mostly everyone. If you're not at the top then they want you to tell or corroborate the evidence that they may have on the nigga at the top.
If you're the one at the top then they wanna know who else you can give them.
Now a days it does seem like it's rare for people to not snitch but their's still some dudes that choose to face their time as a man.
Just because you ran the streets doesnt mean that you're automatically a Thief or Snake. Everybody isnt out here tryna double-crooss, get over, or kill everything moving.
Snake niggas and selfish niggas are guaranteed to tell because they have no Loyalty and could care less about anyone but themselves.
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They don't offer deals to everyone. They have quotas they have to make, and they use some deals to secure long time for others. If they have you cold, they won't even bother. ADAs are usually the ones doing the leg work, Da's give them quotas and guidelines. DAs themselves are elected officials and have to appease voters. When the voting public demands tougher treatment of criminals, you see many less pleas and deals. Many DAs have lost their office due to giving high profile criminals deals, resulting in much different behavior by the next one.
Just look in the above video, Preacher tried to make a deal, they wanted no part of it. He ended up snitching for no reason.
I believe in loyalty and such, but the point I was trying to make is that these people, specifically mentioned, were not loyal ON THE STREETS, but somehow they are supposed to be held to that standard when facing time. Does not compute. Wayne Perry was not a loyal person, he killed several people close to him on mere suspicion, and was later found to be wrong in several cases(his baby's momma in particular). But people hold him up as a stand-up guy because he didn't snitch. He took pleas though, to keep some of his family out of jail, but he was going down anyway, so it's not like he had a choice.
You can find honor among pure dealers, but not among the killers, stick up men, etc. Once you accept murder as an easy way to solve problems, your standards of conduct go way down.
One other reason why some people don't tell, is they fear what life in jail will be like, as many jail gangs force you to show them your sentencing paperwork to see if you received a deal via cooperation. If you are going to be there a long time either way, and jail life will be hell with the rep of a snitch, some probably decide not to tell. If the deals were better, they probably would have.
The 'honor' and 'as a man' motivation is what i'm suspicious of.
Just look in the above video, Preacher tried to make a deal, they wanted no part of it. He ended up snitching for no reason.
I believe in loyalty and such, but the point I was trying to make is that these people, specifically mentioned, were not loyal ON THE STREETS, but somehow they are supposed to be held to that standard when facing time. Does not compute. Wayne Perry was not a loyal person, he killed several people close to him on mere suspicion, and was later found to be wrong in several cases(his baby's momma in particular). But people hold him up as a stand-up guy because he didn't snitch. He took pleas though, to keep some of his family out of jail, but he was going down anyway, so it's not like he had a choice.
You can find honor among pure dealers, but not among the killers, stick up men, etc. Once you accept murder as an easy way to solve problems, your standards of conduct go way down.
One other reason why some people don't tell, is they fear what life in jail will be like, as many jail gangs force you to show them your sentencing paperwork to see if you received a deal via cooperation. If you are going to be there a long time either way, and jail life will be hell with the rep of a snitch, some probably decide not to tell. If the deals were better, they probably would have.
The 'honor' and 'as a man' motivation is what i'm suspicious of.
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Sh0t;3030167 said:
For one you obviously dont know what the hell you're talking about.
The Fed system is based off a point system and you're charge already comes with a mandatory sentencing guideline which you can only go under if you cooperate which is something they offer basically everybody. If you cop out with out filing any motions then you're points go down by 3 if you cop out afterwards but decide not to go to trial then it goes down by 2 points. If you decide to cooperate then it goes down 5 points, so if you cooperate and cop out you're points will go down by 7 all together.
I agree that a nigga that doesnt have any loyalty to anyone in the streets wont have any loyalty to keeping their mouth closed. Wayne Perry may have been a cruddy nigga but by all accounts he was a loyal dude in the streets so it was honorable that he didnt tell.
And if you aint using you're integrity as a man or the honor that you have in yourself then what else motivation would you have. Niggas that tell say their doing it for their family or for their kids so for you to keep you're mouth closed you're only doing it for yourself.
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one of the best threads in over 5 years .....
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Elzo69Renaissance
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Blow>>>>>> Any Drug Movie
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blakfyahking
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BoYBe$T;3043710 said:
gossiping about grown men you don't know makes this the best thread in 5 yrs?
bruh................
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