Just got finished watching "Paid In Full", and gotta ask this question...

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BoYBe$T;3018036 said:
we are talking from the "movie" perspective right ?

ace should of gave rico the greenlight to put hands on calvin that same night ....

mitch and ace should of never gave rico the opportunity to rub shoulders with them ..

mitch should of moved his brother out of that unhealthy household ....

RIP Rich Porter (MoneyMakinMitch)

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Hit the nail on the head

Was Calvin based on a real person or was he just a stand-in for haters? Cuz theres always gonna be sheisty cats hating on your hustle.
 
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edwardnigma;3018344 said:
Too much shiesty shit for my taste I couldn't sell yay, I would be able deal w/ the pimpin game but the coke game....shit ain't for everybody lol, If it was me I would have saved my money from the laundrymat and sold weed instead lol lol

Its just the same just different variables and equations but the sums are the same. Both include products, services and customers a lot of people think its simple looking from outside in. Both include bringing in revenue with a lot of risk involved.

Do you have the ice in your aorta and ventricles to dump a chicks body who's behavior pattern has changed or brings suspicion that she might be leaving the game and as a result have you doing football numbers? Pimp game isn't easy.
 
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ustreet_monsta;3019824 said:
Hit the nail on the head

Was Calvin based on a real person or was he just a stand-in for haters? Cuz theres always gonna be sheisty cats hating on your hustle.

nah calvin was a real character .... in reality he was hit with life in prison along with his two cohorts .. that scene from the movie was pretty much how that massacre played out in reality ..
 
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Brooklyn Boy;3019805 said:
Y'all niggaz gon make me pop in my Allow DVD in lol

what u should do is listen to that interview I posted that Alpo gave from federal penitentuary ....

dude was a charismatic snake that had antarctic veins flowing threw him .... he did shit with no remorse and in that interview he gaves u clear as day highlights of some of his murders and moves that were made from harlem to d.c.
 
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Them niggas that approached ace might as well walked up to wit a "we're undercover cops" sign on their chest. Lol! Mitch could've gotten his mother & brother outta that situation by moving.

Lemme ask y'all this then. Is having love from the streets more important, than puttin your family in a better situation? B/c it seems like that's what kept Mitch there.
 
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would have hit up calvin definitely, would have rico in the business, and would have taken alot the money legal
 
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one_manshow;3019833 said:
Its just the same just different variables and equations but the sums are the same. Both include products, services and customers a lot of people think its simple looking from outside in. Both include bringing in revenue with a lot of risk involved.

Do you have the ice in your aorta and ventricles to dump a chicks body who's behavior pattern has changed or brings suspicion that she might be leaving the game and as a result have you doing football numbers? Pimp game isn't easy.

Nothings easy and most pimps don't have to go through all that..You pick your women, you pick hw much you can handle, and you decide how things will be handled....it can't all go your way.I also don't believe in the cause of cocaine as I would with weed and pussy.....I personally don't see anything wrong with weed and prositutes while I think cocaine is bad choice of drug that can ruin your life
 
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A lot of factors figured in the death of the Washington DC street legend, Fray, but the main reason was Alberto “Alpo” Martinez. When the soon to become infamous rat Alpo hit DC in the late 1980s, Fray was a well established and respected hustler at the top of DC's street hierarchy. Fray didn't take kindly to New York dudes coming from up top to set up shop in the city. He despised dudes coming down to Chocolate City and hustling on the home turf. But it was more than that. The slick New York dudes would come down with kilos and game, flossing and shining, fucking all the DC girls, turning the community out, and getting DC dudes to betray and murder other DC dudes. Just fucking shit up in general and then leaving the mess for Fray to clean up. Fray didn’t like to feel he got played on any level and dudes like Alpo were snakes, fucking it up for the home team.

Fray’s attitude toward outsiders, especially the dudes from New York, was to lean on them. He put his muscle game down and dared the New Yorkers to make a move. Fray felt secure in his city and he put his mentality in effect. When Alpo came into town flossing and fronting that gangster shit, Fray called his bluff, got shit off him and didn’t even pay him. He treated Alpo like a sucker. He was leaning on the New Yorker and saw him as a coward even before he started snitching. Fray had the 411 on Alpo from the jump, before he knew him he saw the snake for what he was. In retrospect Fray played Alpo for the buster he was.

“I saw Fray take 10 keys from Alpo one time,” one hustler says. That was how Fray treated the kid. Fray got in touch with some of his people from New York and they warned him that Alpo wasn't right. They told Fray that Alpo had set some people up in New York, good dudes, on some flip shit long before he began to tell. He was a shiesty dude and Fray was forewarned. Fray knew Alpo wasn't a true gangster, he knew Alpo was fronting because zebras can’t change their stripes, once a sucker always a sucker. But even suckers can bust their gun and Fray didn't foresee the coward’s treachery. He was too secure in his status in the city.

Fray was in the life though and death was an occupational hazard. It happened to lesser men everyday. Fray just never envisioned himself falling prey to the game. He never thought he would be a victim. The Washington Post headline read, Alleged Drug Figure Slain on DC Street. The man known as Fray, government name Michael Salters had met his demise. He was described by law enforcement officials as one of the city’s largest drug dealers, but it was noted that his real power lay in his ability to referee turf disputes among rival drug dealers. So in other words Fray made big power moves and due to this, he was a man among men. Respected, feared and loved. This didn't stop him from being gunned down on the streets he came up on. On July 16, 1991 in an ambush at First and Bryant Streets Northwest, an unidentified gunman opened fire on Salters’ car, Washington DC police reported. The death of a street legend being the result. The city was rocked by his murder.

Afraid that Fray was going to have him killed, Alpo (left) paid a DC dude to kill a DC legend. Fray’s body, still inside his bullet-ridden car was left outside the entrance to the Washington Hospital Center shortly after 10:30PM, Fifth District Captain James Coffey said. Fray was pronounced dead at about 1 AM that morning. The police department said Fray had been shot at least six times. A relative of Fray’s was driving a van behind Fray’s car east on Bryant when he was cut off by another car near First Street, police said. An occupant of the vehicle that cut off the van opened fire on Fray. An uninjured passenger in Fray's car then drove him to the hospital.

“I was in prison when Fray got killed.” His relative says. “I'll never forget when dude came to my cell and told me that your cousin got killed last night. I got on the phone and called home and couldn't believe it. I wondered who would jump out there like that. Fray had that much pull in DC. It hurts to even talk about this shit because nothing was really done to answer that shit. How can a nigga like Fray get killed and niggas don't tear the city up and go to war. The only person I can say really did something was his nephew Poochie.” Darrell Salters aka Poochie, Frays nephew, was a stick-up kid who robbed and kidnapped drug dealers. He did a lot of shit behind Fray's murder but was eventually gunned down himself. It was said that Poochie killed a few big names in the game behind Fray's murder, but no one knew if he got the right people.

“I heard that this guy Brooks and Alpo were scared of Fray. That’s what I heard,” Fatts says of what the streets were saying about Fray being taken out. About the murder, the rat Alpo said in Feds magazine, “Fray was about to get back in position in DC. He had a list of names or people he needed to eliminate and I was at the top of his list. I found out because I was feeding someone in his camp he wasn't taking care of. That same person ended up killing him for me.” At the time though no one knew who killed Fray. It was a complete and utter shock that a man of his stature could be taken out like that. His friends, family, allies, associates and enemies were all dumbfounded. If the ambassador of Chocolate City could be touched, then anyone could be touched. It was a sobering reality.

On March 5, 1993 a 27 count indictment stemming from the Alpo case alleged that his crew from 1989 to 1991 was responsible for nine homicides. According to the indictment, when Alpo learned of Fray's plans to kill him he and Wayne Perry paid Michael Jackson 9 grand in cash, a half-kilogram of cocaine and a 9mm handgun to kill Fray. The allegations were never presented in court, but Alpo admitted to them in the magazine interview. As did Wayne Perry who said of the matter in Don Diva magazine, “As far as the Fray thing, I’m gonna tell you about it. I wouldn’t if it could get someone in trouble, but the rat already told it. But dig, that was a cruddy snake move. And his trusted friends got him, not me. They put it out there that I did it. Yes, I was after Fray because he put a hit on me. He said he had to get me out of the way so he could extort Alpo. Alpo was scared of Fray but I wasn’t and Alpo felt okay as long as he had me. So I end up finding out about the hit on me and I got at those in Fray’s crew who took the hit and let Fray know that he was next.

“But I couldn’t track him down. So those snakes that used to be down at that shop on Georgia Avenue who were close to Fray but were scared of him playing both sides. So Alpo and them set it up for Fray’s close buddy to hit him and then tell all Fray’s people that I did it cause he was close to me too but he is a snake and has no loyalty.” The snake Wayne was talking about is Michael Jackson. “He even told the feds that he heard that he and Marky and Mario got Fray. The dude is a snake. All the time he was the one that did it and the dudes at the shop was all in on it. Now dig, one of my kids’ mother heard the whole lie about me killing Fray at Fray’s funeral where all the dudes and the dude that got Fray were saying I did it. At the time I don’t know all of this and the dude who did it was my man at the time. I still didn’t know he did it until we got locked up. The dude knew my daughter’s mother heard him at Fray’s funeral so he hurried up and came to me and tell me she was at the funeral telling people I killed Fray. The dude knew I would believe him and ask no questions, just do what I did best, which I did. And that’s my only regret. May she rest in peace. Michael Jackson is a snake.”

Before his untimely end Fray was the subject of a five year investigation by the Washington Metropolitan Police and the FBI. Fray had been implicated in drug deals of more than 200 pounds, but he had proved to be too well insulated from direct involvement to be charged. Agents at times put Salters under intense surveillance and interviewed drug dealers who said they had worked with and for him. His name also came up in wiretapped conversations. A dude from the R Street case was heard on a wire saying Fray had paid the District Attorney 5 grand for information. That’s how far his reach and influence carried. But the feds never got him. Fray met his maker in the streets. In a burst of gunfire like a true outlaw. Some rappers rap about it but Fray lived it. He was the epitome of the original gangster. For a man like that, all that can be done is to honor his gangster, his name and his legend.
 
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I'd rather peep game on how Lou Lou handled his shit. Branch off from that.
 
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BoYBe$T;3019746 said:
cosign ..... there is no love in them streets so its best to eat until your plate is finished and leave the table ......

And Azie got out just in time. It's 2011 and dude still riding BMW's

[video=youtube;Cb9angY5QIE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb9angY5QIE[/video]
 
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I would have moved my family out the hood first

then I took the drug money and invest in legit buisness.

My boy who was a heavy weed dealer sold weed for one yr made 200,000

used a 100,000 grand to invest in a barbershop in a different hood and now that

barbershop nets him profit each yr and he is out the game.
 
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I read Black gangster along with the rest of Goines books. My favorite, because I'm a pervert, is Dopefiend. delicious.

The DC guys have good stories. Rayful, Fray, bunch of others. supposedly a wayne perry docu is in the works.
 
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politicalthug202;3020478 said:
I would have moved my family out the hood first
then I took the drug money and invest in legit buisness.
My boy who was a heavy weed dealer sold weed for one yr made 200,000
used a 100,000 grand to invest in a barbershop in a different hood and now that
barbershop nets him profit each yr and he is out the game.

Did he supply? Cause on the real you don't make much money just selling its the suppler the cats at the top passing that shit on to the dealers that's bringing in the real green no one straight dealer could make anywhere near that amount in a year.
 
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Them niggas didnt even wash there money they werent ready for it.Buying nice cars aint washing money its bringing attention upon you.
 
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You can make 200k easily in a year as a dealer. Especially if your operating costs are low. Problem is, like most small businesses, people get obsessed with having fiefdoms and have too many employees and overhead.

That's a little over 4k a week. Quite doable if you aren't paying 2k a week to people to sell for you, as what tends to happen. That's 600 dollars a day? That could be 3 hours worth of work.

Get yourself 20 customers that buy once a week on average, could probably easily move that.

And this is weed we are talking about here.

re: money washing

In AZ's book he talks in more detail about how they hid money and such
 
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