Joey Badass: I’m a better rapper than Tupac

[R.D.]

That's so lazy "bar for bar, skillwise "

Nah my g, are you a better rapper and the answer is no

You want to determine what rapper got the best bars, you got to have a discussion on what makes a dope bar, then you got to look at them on paper cause and that ain't got shit to do with rapping

So when you say skills, name those skills, what do you do better than PAC on the mic

Ain't "I'm a better rapper when you look at it as xyz"

I'm a better rapper is an absolute statement. You're better or you're not

 

[NoCompetition]

Maybe dude could make one song that anywhere near a substantial amount of people actually want to hear before he calls himself "better" than the greatest rapper ever. Pacs like on a million he's like between 0 and one when it comes to rapper scale to compare the 2. The rest is opinion and neither here nor there but looking at any tangible metric, like their music and actual results,this is...below laughable. Laughable is more than this elicits. This like some 3 point a game dude in the NBA sayin "Im better that Jordan, yep"

 

[mosincredible]

Tupac fans are so damn emotional about the dude, it makes y'all an easy target.

LOL somebody up the Biggie is not the GOAT thread and all u New York posters were so appalled at the disrespect your lord and savior Biggie was getting.

Nah but we can up those outkast threads and see all the southern feelings flowing all through that thread. All that bitchin about not getting respect and shit. So what's your point? Tupac still got the most emotional fanbase in Hip Hop, many past threads prove that and so do this one. Lol I mean look at you niggas go in here SMH

Facts. Pac fans done mentioned all sorts of other shit in this thread that has nothing to do with bar for bar. Impact, heart, feeling, Brenda got a baby, disses. None of that has anything to do with what Joey said.

in your words, what did Joey say

Forget my words...
https://twitter.com/joeyBADASS/status/837068961132924930

But even when he said it in the video, I knew what he meant. People don't go at Pac's impact and song quality. They go at his lyrical gymnastics. His wordplay.

Edit: And I will add, in that regard, Pac is nicer than a hater will give him credit for. But there's plenty of rappers that have more skill than him at that type of rapping.

When yall say skill what do u mean

Are you serious though? I said it earlier but you may have looked over my post. Metaphors, wordplay, homonyms, alliteration, rhyme schemes. Pac doesn't have many "damn I've heard this song 10x and didn't catch that bar" situations.

 

[mosincredible]

I'll be the first to admit, maybe Pac never wanted to be that type of rapper. Maybe he never wanted to go over anyone's head with a bar. But he didn't and we (I) don't give people credit for things they didn't do.

 

[TheGOAT]

Tupac fans are so damn emotional about the dude, it makes y'all an easy target.

LOL somebody up the Biggie is not the GOAT thread and all u New York posters were so appalled at the disrespect your lord and savior Biggie was getting.

Nah but we can up those outkast threads and see all the southern feelings flowing all through that thread. All that bitchin about not getting respect and shit. So what's your point? Tupac still got the most emotional fanbase in Hip Hop, many past threads prove that and so do this one. Lol I mean look at you niggas go in here SMH

Nah.

You NY Biggie stans are the worst. In the "Biggie aint the GOAT" thread posters were given props and everything. We was just saying you cant be the GOAT when your discography is the same length as Joey Badass.

Outkast discog >>>> Biggies 2 albums

Pac discog >>>>>>>> Biggies 2 albums

Keep your "he got better homonyms" arguments... Shit was disrespect.

Yall NY posters just want any NY MC to be great yall givin him a pass.

 

[TayGettem]

But the nigga couldn't go bar for bar w Troy Ave....

Why are yall saying this? Troy Average won nothing and has no bars on Joey

We are saying this cuz the nigga aint built for that aggressive lyrical warfare shit ....Troy won cuz lyrically disrespected their crew....and didn't even get a 16 reply.....

Troy won nothing. Fans sided with Joey because mocking Steez suicide was wack and also because Troy has no fans

I read the post and saw nothing related to music or bars

"He took a leap of faith and only brightened his light/ You took a cheap shot of hate and only shortened your life/ The difference between you and him is that he lives forever/ You'll be the first to die tdhat nobody ever remembers/ Because the city never need you ever/You committed career suicide and made New York better."

Really fam??? Those are battle bars? Where is the Aggressive content?

How a nigga posed to be offended by this shit...

He never said he could battle pac he simply said he could out bar pac. Which is basically what backpack rap. A bunch of niggas showing of there bars on the mic

what does this mean exactly?

@Elzo69Renaissance


This is a good example there not dissing eachother just flowing letting the crowd decide who had better bars

If niggas think Joey couldnt out bar pac in this form there crazy

 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

Tupac fans are so damn emotional about the dude, it makes y'all an easy target.

LOL somebody up the Biggie is not the GOAT thread and all u New York posters were so appalled at the disrespect your lord and savior Biggie was getting.

Nah but we can up those outkast threads and see all the southern feelings flowing all through that thread. All that bitchin about not getting respect and shit. So what's your point? Tupac still got the most emotional fanbase in Hip Hop, many past threads prove that and so do this one. Lol I mean look at you niggas go in here SMH

Nah.

You NY Biggie stans are the worst. In the "Biggie aint the GOAT" thread posters were given props and everything. We was just saying you cant be the GOAT when your discography is the same length as Joey Badass.

Outkast discog >>>> Biggies 2 albums

Pac discog >>>>>>>> Biggies 2 albums

Keep your "he got better homonyms" arguments... Shit was disrespect.

Yall NY posters just want any NY MC to be great yall givin him a pass.

Lol Giving who a pass? New York what? *random ass gifs being posted*

Lol nigga you ALL over the place. We talking about joey badass comments, which I don't agree with at all. You bringing up your emotional feelings about New Yorkers that ain't got shit to do with me lol. Especially since I said many of times on this forum pac was my favorite. See how silly you look? Lol But good looking on the post tho, you proving my point. Keep em coming. It's hilarious

 

[TayGettem]

An niggas over look the fact Joey is talking in a technical sense of rappin. In a technical form of rap Lupe would son pac right or wrong? We talkin abt niggas just blacking out and spitting complex high level metaphors and simile. I'd say pac is mj in the sense he could do it all to a certain extent but Joey is ray allen. Mj could shoot the 3 but ray allen was a killer at the 3

 

[bless the child]

My homeboy gave me a Joey Badass cd for free. That shit sat in my car so long that the sun made the colors fade on the cover. Imma take it out and break up bud on it today lol

 

[EyeofAsaru]

My homeboy gave me a Joey Badass cd for free. That shit sat in my car so long that the sun made the colors fade on the cover. Imma take it out and break up bud on it today lol

Don't disrespect your weed like that..

 

[blackamerica]

Pac is overrated. We get it y'all niggas had a crush on him. That's your struggle... But lil dude raps better than Pac. Niggas act like Pac Hannibal, Shaka, and Malcolm X combined. Like he the Devastator of rappers.

The ONLY reason lil turd niggaz like you can disrespect Pac is because Pac unfortunately has had TONS of unreleased music dropping. Some of these songs have been chopped up, edited & put on different beats with artist he didnt even know. Some of this shit is sloppily done & unmixed. But make no mistake, All Eyez On Me was a CLASSIC. Don Killuminati was close to it. Pac was one of the best. Most of all he was really bout dat life. Joey Badazz couldnt even handle them goofy Wild N Out niggaz in battle. FOH nigga.

These new niggaz are some entitled butt munching faggots.

Bitch, I'm older than you. Get my dick out of your mouth.

Age dont matter. U still u clown

 

[saracenwire]

But why not say biggie ? Why is always pac getting disrespected

because they aren't better than Biggie.

 

[5th Letter]

But why not say biggie ? Why is always pac getting disrespected

because they aren't better than Biggie.

Same reason why you won't see west coast niggas say they'll out bar Pac, or south niggas say they'll out bar Scarface. It's a certain reverence that niggas hold for legends from their region.

 

[trendsetta1030]

Nba yung boy>joey badazz

 

[Beta]

Nba yung boy>joey badazz

Rondonumbanine >>>> badass

 

[5th Letter]

Nba yung boy>joey badazz

Nba yung boy>joey badazz

Rondonumbanine >>>> badass

 

[water ur seeds]

I'm drinking Hennessyyyyyyyy and riding on my enemiessssss. Them mufukas gone remember meeeeee. I was in a penitentiaryyyyyy but now I'm freeeeeee.

And he was doing that in his early 20's... Crazy, dude carried himself like 40 year old college professor...

A lot of us in our early 20's did *shrugs*

Most 20 year olds dont carry themselves like a 40 year old college professors though lol I’m not saying Pac always did, but when he was giving interviews or speeches at times you could be forgiven for forgetting that he was only 20-24, especially when he’s talking about something he felt strongly about with so much energy...

Have you ever gotten up and given lectures or speeches, at 20-22 at that??? For instance the video below, theres no 'umm', 'yeah but' or stuttering, he spoke confidently and assertively, commanding the room, and like I said I think he was only like 20 at the time... Im a coach, I have to get up and speak in front of like 50-70 kids and parents at times, even thats not easy, I dont think I could of done it so assertively and positively at 20, especially about political or social issues... To be doing it so assertively without any real form of training is impressive, and especially about the kinda of subjects he spoke on, you would not normally think a 20-22 year old could do it so confidently...

Rappers like Immortal Tech etc give great speeches he may of done that kinda thing in his early 20's, but most rappers or kids in general to get up and speak and carry yourself a certain way at a young age and speak about political issues is impressive...

2pac Malcolm X dinner speech...

 

[vageneral08]

Close this dumbass thread he couldn't even handle troy ave lol

 

[TayGettem]

I'm drinking Hennessyyyyyyyy and riding on my enemiessssss. Them mufukas gone remember meeeeee. I was in a penitentiaryyyyyy but now I'm freeeeeee.

And he was doing that in his early 20's... Crazy, dude carried himself like 40 year old college professor...

A lot of us in our early 20's did *shrugs*

Most 20 year olds dont carry themselves like a 40 year old college professors though lol I’m not saying Pac always did, but when he was giving interviews or speeches at times you could be forgiven for forgetting that he was only 20-24, especially when he’s talking about something he felt strongly about with so much energy...

Have you ever gotten up and given lectures or speeches, at 20-22 at that??? For instance the video below, theres no 'umm', 'yeah but' or stuttering, he spoke confidently and assertively, commanding the room, and like I said I think he was only like 20 at the time... Im a coach, I have to get up and speak in front of like 50-70 kids and parents at times, even thats not easy, I dont think I could of done it so assertively and positively at 20, especially about political or social issues... To be doing it so assertively without any real form of training is impressive, and especially about the kinda of subjects he spoke on, you would not normally think a 20-22 year old could do it so confidently...

Rappers like Immortal Tech etc give great speeches he may of done that kinda thing in his early 20's, but most rappers or kids in general to get up and speak and carry yourself a certain way at a young age and speak about political issues is impressive...

2pac Malcolm X dinner speech...

What does giving speeches have to do with battling

 

[mosincredible]

I'm drinking Hennessyyyyyyyy and riding on my enemiessssss. Them mufukas gone remember meeeeee. I was in a penitentiaryyyyyy but now I'm freeeeeee.

And he was doing that in his early 20's... Crazy, dude carried himself like 40 year old college professor...

A lot of us in our early 20's did *shrugs*

Most 20 year olds dont carry themselves like a 40 year old college professors though lol I’m not saying Pac always did, but when he was giving interviews or speeches at times you could be forgiven for forgetting that he was only 20-24, especially when he’s talking about something he felt strongly about with so much energy...

Have you ever gotten up and given lectures or speeches, at 20-22 at that??? For instance the video below, theres no 'umm', 'yeah but' or stuttering, he spoke confidently and assertively, commanding the room, and like I said I think he was only like 20 at the time... Im a coach, I have to get up and speak in front of like 50-70 kids and parents at times, even thats not easy, I dont think I could of done it so assertively and positively at 20, especially about political or social issues... To be doing it so assertively without any real form of training is impressive, and especially about the kinda of subjects he spoke on, you would not normally think a 20-22 year old could do it so confidently...

Rappers like Immortal Tech etc give great speeches he may of done that kinda thing in his early 20's, but most rappers or kids in general to get up and speak and carry yourself a certain way at a young age and speak about political issues is impressive...

2pac Malcolm X dinner speech...

What does giving speeches have to do with battling

This happens in every thread where an aspect of Pac's greatness is questioned. The subject gets completely lost and people bring up shit that has nothing to do with the actual statement made.

Poster 1: "Jay is more lyrical than Pac"

Poster 2, 3 & 4 "Jay didn't reply to Pac while he was alive! fuck outta here"