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R2_163;c-9675060 said:AggieLean.;c-9674861 said:KamPushMe;c-9672105 said:Got a couple of lines
"Relish fetishes, menaces want the senator’s percentages
If you ain't prejudice you still a nemesis
Smoking on the Clematis, get open like a present is
Now your presence is on the premises for them presidents"
Rappity rap shit...nothing of substance. Not a damn thing said here.
FOH
so when pun is doing that "Dead in the middle of Little Italy, little did we know
That we riddled blah blah blibipty" bullshit , y'all niggas are screaming GOAT!!!!!
So is Big L and Rakim wack rappity rap rappers now?
some of you niggas make me sick. 75% of the niggas that say joey has no substance and use meaningless words will turn around and say raekwon ghost and camp lo are goats even tho they have no idea wtf they are talking about. lool you pac fans man I swear
scust...
AggieLean.;c-9675494 said:R2_163;c-9675060 said:AggieLean.;c-9674861 said:KamPushMe;c-9672105 said:Got a couple of lines
"Relish fetishes, menaces want the senator’s percentages
If you ain't prejudice you still a nemesis
Smoking on the Clematis, get open like a present is
Now your presence is on the premises for them presidents"
Rappity rap shit...nothing of substance. Not a damn thing said here.
FOH
so when pun is doing that "Dead in the middle of Little Italy, little did we know
That we riddled blah blah blibipty" bullshit , y'all niggas are screaming GOAT!!!!!
So is Big L and Rakim wack rappity rap rappers now?
some of you niggas make me sick. 75% of the niggas that say joey has no substance and use meaningless words will turn around and say raekwon ghost and camp lo are goats even tho they have no idea wtf they are talking about. lool you pac fans man I swear
scust...
This post doesn't een apply to me dawg. I would never say such a thing about those artists...and to the poster above, you can gone head and include wu tang. I didn't/don't like any of their music.
TayGettem ;c-9675529 said:AggieLean.;c-9675494 said:R2_163;c-9675060 said:AggieLean.;c-9674861 said:KamPushMe;c-9672105 said:Got a couple of lines
"Relish fetishes, menaces want the senator’s percentages
If you ain't prejudice you still a nemesis
Smoking on the Clematis, get open like a present is
Now your presence is on the premises for them presidents"
Rappity rap shit...nothing of substance. Not a damn thing said here.
FOH
so when pun is doing that "Dead in the middle of Little Italy, little did we know
That we riddled blah blah blibipty" bullshit , y'all niggas are screaming GOAT!!!!!
So is Big L and Rakim wack rappity rap rappers now?
some of you niggas make me sick. 75% of the niggas that say joey has no substance and use meaningless words will turn around and say raekwon ghost and camp lo are goats even tho they have no idea wtf they are talking about. lool you pac fans man I swear
scust...
This post doesn't een apply to me dawg. I would never say such a thing about those artists...and to the poster above, you can gone head and include wu tang. I didn't/don't like any of their music.
That's koo but that's just your opinion just because u don't like someone's music doesn't mean u should deny there skill set.....I'm not taking anything from pac. Even pac admitted his not a technical type of rappers. When u speak on technical rapping we're basically speaking on word play, metphors, similes, punchlines. Joey is cut from that same old school cloth as Joe Budden, crooked I, royce 9, WuTang, Joel Ortiz, Nas, Big L, Biggie, Lupe, Jay electronica where lyrical ability is praised as the end all be all. So if u Joey to say he could out bar pac isn't a stretch for niggas to say pac could out bar pac ud have to place his technical skills on the mic on the same level as some of the guys I just named and ud be lying if u said he could lyrically out bar them cats. Hittem up was a great diss but it was very direct and straight forward it wasn't like Joe Budden disses to Drake where he was dropping punchlines and metphors every other line. An it doesn't mean Hittem up wasn't better but there's a big difference between the two in the way of technical skills on the mic
_Menace_;c-9676011 said:It's funny how you need to be "lyrical" to be a good rapper.
Pac had records were he snapped but Pac's IMPACT on Brenda's Gotta Baby is and will be bigger than anything than Joey puts out.
Let me know when he can put a track like this out
Max B Wave God;c-9676291 said:2pac got RnB singers to feature and do the hook on 99% of his songs more than any other rapper in history. Hooks were his weakness. So this is why he wasn't a good song writer he couldn't do hooks and got more features for hooks than anybody ever. All he did was rap verses in the song. While the RnB singer featuring did the hook and the producer made the beat for him
His beat selection was also weak his beats were pretty wack didn't bang at all
Yes he had a message but what good is message if it is executed in a very boring and very non engaging way? this is subjective of course but from my perspective his music was boring because he executed the message in a boring way. Having a message is the easiest thing in principle anyone can have a message in their music. What is the key factor is the execution of the message
I don't play any of his albums even his better ones like All Eyez On Me and Me Against The World because they lack replay value to me because I find them and his style boring
However he did make better music than Joey Badass but that's not saying much that is simply and only due to Joey Badass music being so shitty
Max B Wave God;c-9676315 said:I forgot to mention 2pac sales a huge % of them increased after his death
Max B Wave God;c-9676320 said:For all the message/substance talk a lot of his super fans on the IC mention
2pac's biggest and most successful hit ever was California Love lol. A song where Roger Troutman did the hook, a song that isn't a solo song which Dr Dre featured on, which Dr Dre produced
And this a part song his biggest hit
His highest selling album ever All Eyez On Me is also his least deepest and has the least substance out of his discography
power_wisdom;c-9675945 said:Pac did step it up on Makaveli lyrically. Those Jersey boys had him spitting.