Joey Badass: I’m a better rapper than Tupac

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So basically the Wu - Tang clan trash that's what yall saying and u fckin lyin if u saying everything they said was content. It sounded good but let's not kid like every line had meaning
 
R2_163;c-9675060 said:
AggieLean.;c-9674861 said:
KamPushMe;c-9672105 said:
Got a couple of lines

"Relish fetishes, menaces want the senator’s percentages

If you ain't prejudice you still a nemesis

Smoking on the Clematis, get open like a present is

Now your presence is on the premises for them presidents"

Rappity rap shit...nothing of substance. Not a damn thing said here.

FOH

so when pun is doing that "Dead in the middle of Little Italy, little did we know

That we riddled blah blah blibipty" bullshit , y'all niggas are screaming GOAT!!!!!

So is Big L and Rakim wack rappity rap rappers now?

some of you niggas make me sick. 75% of the niggas that say joey has no substance and use meaningless words will turn around and say raekwon ghost and camp lo are goats even tho they have no idea wtf they are talking about. lool you pac fans man I swear

scust...

This post doesn't een apply to me dawg. I would never say such a thing about those artists...and to the poster above, you can gone head and include wu tang. I didn't/don't like any of their music.

 
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AggieLean.;c-9675494 said:
R2_163;c-9675060 said:
AggieLean.;c-9674861 said:
KamPushMe;c-9672105 said:
Got a couple of lines

"Relish fetishes, menaces want the senator’s percentages

If you ain't prejudice you still a nemesis

Smoking on the Clematis, get open like a present is

Now your presence is on the premises for them presidents"

Rappity rap shit...nothing of substance. Not a damn thing said here.

FOH

so when pun is doing that "Dead in the middle of Little Italy, little did we know

That we riddled blah blah blibipty" bullshit , y'all niggas are screaming GOAT!!!!!

So is Big L and Rakim wack rappity rap rappers now?

some of you niggas make me sick. 75% of the niggas that say joey has no substance and use meaningless words will turn around and say raekwon ghost and camp lo are goats even tho they have no idea wtf they are talking about. lool you pac fans man I swear

scust...

This post doesn't een apply to me dawg. I would never say such a thing about those artists...and to the poster above, you can gone head and include wu tang. I didn't/don't like any of their music.

That's koo but that's just your opinion just because u don't like someone's music doesn't mean u should deny there skill set.....I'm not taking anything from pac. Even pac admitted his not a technical type of rappers. When u speak on technical rapping we're basically speaking on word play, metphors, similes, punchlines. Joey is cut from that same old school cloth as Joe Budden, crooked I, royce 9, WuTang, Joel Ortiz, Nas, Big L, Biggie, Lupe, Jay electronica where lyrical ability is praised as the end all be all. So for Joey to say he could out bar pac isn't a stretch....for niggas to say pac could out bar Joey ud have to place his technical skills on the mic on the same level as some of the guys I just named and ud be lying if u said he could lyrically out bar them cats. Hittem up was a great diss but it was very direct and straight forward it wasn't like Joe Budden disses to Drake where he was dropping punchlines and metphors every other line. An it doesn't mean Hittem up wasn't better but there's a big difference between the two in the way of technical skills on the mic
 
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TayGettem ;c-9675529 said:
AggieLean.;c-9675494 said:
R2_163;c-9675060 said:
AggieLean.;c-9674861 said:
KamPushMe;c-9672105 said:
Got a couple of lines

"Relish fetishes, menaces want the senator’s percentages

If you ain't prejudice you still a nemesis

Smoking on the Clematis, get open like a present is

Now your presence is on the premises for them presidents"

Rappity rap shit...nothing of substance. Not a damn thing said here.

FOH

so when pun is doing that "Dead in the middle of Little Italy, little did we know

That we riddled blah blah blibipty" bullshit , y'all niggas are screaming GOAT!!!!!

So is Big L and Rakim wack rappity rap rappers now?

some of you niggas make me sick. 75% of the niggas that say joey has no substance and use meaningless words will turn around and say raekwon ghost and camp lo are goats even tho they have no idea wtf they are talking about. lool you pac fans man I swear

scust...

This post doesn't een apply to me dawg. I would never say such a thing about those artists...and to the poster above, you can gone head and include wu tang. I didn't/don't like any of their music.

That's koo but that's just your opinion just because u don't like someone's music doesn't mean u should deny there skill set.....I'm not taking anything from pac. Even pac admitted his not a technical type of rappers. When u speak on technical rapping we're basically speaking on word play, metphors, similes, punchlines. Joey is cut from that same old school cloth as Joe Budden, crooked I, royce 9, WuTang, Joel Ortiz, Nas, Big L, Biggie, Lupe, Jay electronica where lyrical ability is praised as the end all be all. So if u Joey to say he could out bar pac isn't a stretch for niggas to say pac could out bar pac ud have to place his technical skills on the mic on the same level as some of the guys I just named and ud be lying if u said he could lyrically out bar them cats. Hittem up was a great diss but it was very direct and straight forward it wasn't like Joe Budden disses to Drake where he was dropping punchlines and metphors every other line. An it doesn't mean Hittem up wasn't better but there's a big difference between the two in the way of technical skills on the mic

All this, and I never denied his skill set tho...

Technically, from the little I've heard of dude, he's on point. He can rap.

 
Yall gotta be objective most rappersn are and even back then were better then Pac when it came to actual rapping ability Pac schemes and concepts flow delivery stories were on point at times but other then that he was a "LITTLE" above avg.RAPPER IMO
 
It's funny how you need to be "lyrical" to be a good rapper.

Pac had records were he snapped but Pac's IMPACT on Brenda's Gotta Baby is and will be bigger than anything than Joey puts out.

Let me know when he can put a track like this out
 
_Menace_;c-9676011 said:
It's funny how you need to be "lyrical" to be a good rapper.

Pac had records were he snapped but Pac's IMPACT on Brenda's Gotta Baby is and will be bigger than anything than Joey puts out.

Let me know when he can put a track like this out


Once again not denying that but Joey said out bar pac not that he makes better music

Nobody said u had to be yrical to rap either.

Hell even the title of the thread is out of context with what Joey actually said he never said he was better just that he could out rap him bar for bar.

That has nothing to do with pac being overall better
 
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2pac got RnB singers to feature and do the hook on 99% of his songs more than any other rapper in history. Hooks were his weakness. So this is why he wasn't a good song writer he couldn't do hooks and got more features for hooks than anybody ever. All he did was rap verses in the song. While the RnB singer featuring did the hook and the producer made the beat for him

His beat selection was also weak his beats were pretty wack didn't bang at all

Yes he had a message but what good is message if it is executed in a very boring and very non engaging way? this is subjective of course but from my perspective his music was boring because he executed the message in a boring way. Having a message is the easiest thing in principle anyone can have a message in their music. What is the key factor is the execution of the message

I don't play any of his albums even his better ones like All Eyez On Me and Me Against The World because they lack replay value to me because I find them and his style boring

However he did make better music than Joey Badass but that's not saying much that is simply and only due to Joey Badass music being so shitty
 
For all the message/substance talk a lot of his super fans on the IC mention

2pac's biggest and most successful hit ever was California Love lol. A song where Roger Troutman did the hook, a song that isn't a solo song which Dr Dre featured on, which Dr Dre produced

And this a part song his biggest hit

His highest selling album ever All Eyez On Me is also his least deepest and has the least substance out of his discography
 
Max B Wave God;c-9676291 said:
2pac got RnB singers to feature and do the hook on 99% of his songs more than any other rapper in history. Hooks were his weakness. So this is why he wasn't a good song writer he couldn't do hooks and got more features for hooks than anybody ever. All he did was rap verses in the song. While the RnB singer featuring did the hook and the producer made the beat for him

His beat selection was also weak his beats were pretty wack didn't bang at all

Yes he had a message but what good is message if it is executed in a very boring and very non engaging way? this is subjective of course but from my perspective his music was boring because he executed the message in a boring way. Having a message is the easiest thing in principle anyone can have a message in their music. What is the key factor is the execution of the message

I don't play any of his albums even his better ones like All Eyez On Me and Me Against The World because they lack replay value to me because I find them and his style boring

However he did make better music than Joey Badass but that's not saying much that is simply and only due to Joey Badass music being so shitty

Shut

Max B Wave God;c-9676315 said:
I forgot to mention 2pac sales a huge % of them increased after his death

The

Max B Wave God;c-9676320 said:
For all the message/substance talk a lot of his super fans on the IC mention

2pac's biggest and most successful hit ever was California Love lol. A song where Roger Troutman did the hook, a song that isn't a solo song which Dr Dre featured on, which Dr Dre produced

And this a part song his biggest hit

His highest selling album ever All Eyez On Me is also his least deepest and has the least substance out of his discography

Fuck up
 
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