Joe Budden speaks on criticism Slaughter House album gets

[_Goldie_]

Shady dont be knowing about half the shit she be talking about.

LOL @ tupac having no catchy ,melodic shit but the 2nd(really number 1, cuz we know why Em is number 1) selling rapper of alltime. The intro to Ambitionz of a Ridah, which has been used 100 times by other artist was melodic. Budden been doing that singin/drake shit before drake, do you even know what SLV is? You keep speaking about artist and shit you barely know shit about. Do your research and then state your opinion.

 

[grYmes]

Lol, how old is this thread? All of ya'll talking about Slaughterhouse like they're fuckin relevant. @GunTown isn't there an Em poster in your room you need to go rub one out on? This whole thread failed.

 

[DR. JEK]

Slaughterhouse keep flopping their entire career wether solo or as a group has been based on flop after flop

Only weird virgins who post on message boards listen to Slaughterhouse

Slaughterhouse are the definition of boring

You are the definition of bitch made. If they spit, who gives a damn. What other group besides black hippy is spitting like this?

Song Writing, Artistry, Melody, Musicality, Creativity>>>>>>Spitting

That's why i can't fuck with Slaughterhouse, Jay Z, Nas, Black Thought, Canibus, Jadakiss, Wu Tang etc music

Song Writing and being complete Artists is essential to me

What you described fits and R&B head better than a hip hop fan. Wtf

Rap was built off hard core rhyming and slick wordsmenship. Not this weird ass melodic artistic shit niggas gotta take a molly to relate to type of bullshit.

Slaughterhouse can't make songs, can't do or write hooks, can't pick good beats, can't make hits

U are confusing Cyphering/Freestyling with song making which is based on song writing and the most essential aspect

Slaughterhouse like Jay Z, Canibus, Nas, Jadakiss, Wu Tang, The Game, Rakim, Kool G Rap, Big Pun, T.I., Scarface, Jay Electronica, Freeway, Cassidy, Fabolous, Kurupt are MC's/Rappers/Spitters

Eminem, 50 Cent, Z-Ro, DMX, Kid Cudi, Max B, Chamillionaire, Devin The Dude, Bone Thugs are Artists/Song Writers/Musicians/Rappers/MC's

Slaughterhouse albums have been terrible and their sales been poor. They are a group formed with solo rappers that failed who kept flopping and still flop

Micro phone, Lyrical Murderer, Hammer Dance all sounded like good beats to me. Saying they cant make hits in this day and age aint really a diss because have you turned on the radio lately and heard the "Hit songs"? The hits now a days are guys whining to bitches, not fucking coherent with their flow, guys like Future, guys like Meek Mill (before thus week anyway), and other fuckin trash ass guys who got the type if beats that sound all weird and trance like shit. Thank God Slaughter House aint out here "making hits"

All those mcees you named in the first list are well respected lyricist that give the rap game a breath of fresh air when it comes to raw uncut lyrical shit that made rap fans rap fans in the first place. When niggas bought albums once apon a time they radio shit with the carefully crafted hooks and emo filled subject matter was the songs you skipped when you got the CD home. Why? Because you can always hear that outta touch with the streets stuff on the radio that the white man made them come out with. There are legions of rap fans contrary to what you might think that wanna know if they favorite mcee can rap rap, can do a DJ Premier beat justice, got good wordplay. Hip hop aint just been built on this punk shit everybody settles for now.

The fact u like emo which is short for and means emotional rappers like 2pac, Jay Electronica makes u and your post hypocritical

U just like the gritty, hardcore, rough and rugged type straight up rappin type of emotion/substance that 2pac, Scarface, Jay Electronica, Joe Budden, Nas etc provide who all just do nothin but spit bars

Where as most people the masses prefer the catchy, melodic, musical, artistic type of emotion/substance that Eminem, B.o.B, Kid Cudi, Z-Ro, Devin The Dude, Bone Thugs etc provide

It comes down to a matter of which style 1 prefers but just because u don't like the style of emotion/substance that most people like doesn't excuse u for being a hypocrite and disrespecting emotion in music just because it doesn't suit your taste

2pac was a rapper that's all he did

While i like Artists

Nope...you see thats where youve always been wrong shadyteam

2 pac and Jay Elect are versital enough to give the streets what they want also so how is that me being a hypocrite for liking them? If anything all that proves is there is more than way to skin a cat. You think the only way to go is that mindless way of stupid hooks and rappers mixing r&b style with 20 year old guys rapping in a 50 year old country ass man ascent. Those guys prove all your shit dont have to be just one way for you to be beloved and respected

 

[GunTown]

Slaughterhouse keep flopping their entire career wether solo or as a group has been based on flop after flop

Only weird virgins who post on message boards listen to Slaughterhouse

Slaughterhouse are the definition of boring

You are the definition of bitch made. If they spit, who gives a damn. What other group besides black hippy is spitting like this?

Song Writing, Artistry, Melody, Musicality, Creativity>>>>>>Spitting

That's why i can't fuck with Slaughterhouse, Jay Z, Nas, Black Thought, Canibus, Jadakiss, Wu Tang etc music

Song Writing and being complete Artists is essential to me

What you described fits and R&B head better than a hip hop fan. Wtf

Rap was built off hard core rhyming and slick wordsmenship. Not this weird ass melodic artistic shit niggas gotta take a molly to relate to type of bullshit.

Slaughterhouse can't make songs, can't do or write hooks, can't pick good beats, can't make hits

U are confusing Cyphering/Freestyling with song making which is based on song writing and the most essential aspect

Slaughterhouse like Jay Z, Canibus, Nas, Jadakiss, Wu Tang, The Game, Rakim, Kool G Rap, Big Pun, T.I., Scarface, Jay Electronica, Freeway, Cassidy, Fabolous, Kurupt are MC's/Rappers/Spitters

Eminem, 50 Cent, Z-Ro, DMX, Kid Cudi, Max B, Chamillionaire, Devin The Dude, Bone Thugs are Artists/Song Writers/Musicians/Rappers/MC's

Slaughterhouse albums have been terrible and their sales been poor. They are a group formed with solo rappers that failed who kept flopping and still flop

Micro phone, Lyrical Murderer, Hammer Dance all sounded like good beats to me. Saying they cant make hits in this day and age aint really a diss because have you turned on the radio lately and heard the "Hit songs"? The hits now a days are guys whining to bitches, not fucking coherent with their flow, guys like Future, guys like Meek Mill (before thus week anyway), and other fuckin trash ass guys who got the type if beats that sound all weird and trance like shit. Thank God Slaughter House aint out here "making hits"

All those mcees you named in the first list are well respected lyricist that give the rap game a breath of fresh air when it comes to raw uncut lyrical shit that made rap fans rap fans in the first place. When niggas bought albums once apon a time they radio shit with the carefully crafted hooks and emo filled subject matter was the songs you skipped when you got the CD home. Why? Because you can always hear that outta touch with the streets stuff on the radio that the white man made them come out with. There are legions of rap fans contrary to what you might think that wanna know if they favorite mcee can rap rap, can do a DJ Premier beat justice, got good wordplay. Hip hop aint just been built on this punk shit everybody settles for now.

The fact u like emo which is short for and means emotional rappers like 2pac, Jay Electronica makes u and your post hypocritical

U just like the gritty, hardcore, rough and rugged type straight up rappin type of emotion/substance that 2pac, Scarface, Jay Electronica, Joe Budden, Nas etc provide who all just do nothin but spit bars

Where as most people the masses prefer the catchy, melodic, musical, artistic type of emotion/substance that Eminem, B.o.B, Kid Cudi, Z-Ro, Devin The Dude, Bone Thugs etc provide

It comes down to a matter of which style 1 prefers but just because u don't like the style of emotion/substance that most people like doesn't excuse u for being a hypocrite and disrespecting emotion in music just because it doesn't suit your taste

2pac was a rapper that's all he did

While i like Artists

Nope...you see thats where youve always been wrong shadyteam

2 pac and Jay Elect are versital enough to give the streets what they want also so how is that me being a hypocrite for liking them? If anything all that proves is there is more than way to skin a cat. You think the only way to go is that mindless way of stupid hooks and rappers mixing r&b style with 20 year old guys rapping in a 50year old country ass man ascent. Those guys prove all your shit dont have to be just one way for you yo be beloved and respected

U have to get your facts straight

Drake, Cee-Lo, Phonte, Lauryn Hill, Missy Elliot are the only rappers that sing RnB style on hooks

The style of singing Eminem, Max B, Z-Ro, 50 Cent, Rich Homie Quan, Kid Cudi, Young Thug, DMX, Fetty Wap, Wiz Khalifa, B.o.B, Devin The Dude do on hooks is not RnB style of singing there isn't a genre that style of singing they do comes under. It is just catchy singing

 

[themadlionsfan]

The best way to put it is every Slaughterhouse song sounds like a Cypher rather than a Song

They have the exact same weakness as Nas which is performing and writing hooks, beat selection, making club songs, making hits and making bangers

Even though both Slaughterhouse and Nas are as technically sound and lyrical and complex as u can get these are major weakness they have

Eminem has never made a banger or club song in his life

Both Budden and Nas has made grammy nominated club hits, so Nas and Budden>>>>> EM

Grade A trolling bro

Superman

So Bad

Encore (the song)

The Real Slim Shady

Crack A Bottle

Ass Like That

Business

Bezerk

Picturing bitches twerking to "the real slim shady" got a nigga in tears b lmaooo Thanks Shady, I needed that laugh lol

the real slim shady would be a banger if that shit was played at a circus......

ROFL!!!!

 

[GunTown]

I'm willing to bet most y'all never been to a club

Y'all don't socialize like that

 

[DR. JEK]

Slaughterhouse keep flopping their entire career wether solo or as a group has been based on flop after flop

Only weird virgins who post on message boards listen to Slaughterhouse

Slaughterhouse are the definition of boring

You are the definition of bitch made. If they spit, who gives a damn. What other group besides black hippy is spitting like this?

Song Writing, Artistry, Melody, Musicality, Creativity>>>>>>Spitting

That's why i can't fuck with Slaughterhouse, Jay Z, Nas, Black Thought, Canibus, Jadakiss, Wu Tang etc music

Song Writing and being complete Artists is essential to me

What you described fits and R&B head better than a hip hop fan. Wtf

Rap was built off hard core rhyming and slick wordsmenship. Not this weird ass melodic artistic shit niggas gotta take a molly to relate to type of bullshit.

Slaughterhouse can't make songs, can't do or write hooks, can't pick good beats, can't make hits

U are confusing Cyphering/Freestyling with song making which is based on song writing and the most essential aspect

Slaughterhouse like Jay Z, Canibus, Nas, Jadakiss, Wu Tang, The Game, Rakim, Kool G Rap, Big Pun, T.I., Scarface, Jay Electronica, Freeway, Cassidy, Fabolous, Kurupt are MC's/Rappers/Spitters

Eminem, 50 Cent, Z-Ro, DMX, Kid Cudi, Max B, Chamillionaire, Devin The Dude, Bone Thugs are Artists/Song Writers/Musicians/Rappers/MC's

Slaughterhouse albums have been terrible and their sales been poor. They are a group formed with solo rappers that failed who kept flopping and still flop

Micro phone, Lyrical Murderer, Hammer Dance all sounded like good beats to me. Saying they cant make hits in this day and age aint really a diss because have you turned on the radio lately and heard the "Hit songs"? The hits now a days are guys whining to bitches, not fucking coherent with their flow, guys like Future, guys like Meek Mill (before thus week anyway), and other fuckin trash ass guys who got the type if beats that sound all weird and trance like shit. Thank God Slaughter House aint out here "making hits"

All those mcees you named in the first list are well respected lyricist that give the rap game a breath of fresh air when it comes to raw uncut lyrical shit that made rap fans rap fans in the first place. When niggas bought albums once apon a time they radio shit with the carefully crafted hooks and emo filled subject matter was the songs you skipped when you got the CD home. Why? Because you can always hear that outta touch with the streets stuff on the radio that the white man made them come out with. There are legions of rap fans contrary to what you might think that wanna know if they favorite mcee can rap rap, can do a DJ Premier beat justice, got good wordplay. Hip hop aint just been built on this punk shit everybody settles for now.

The fact u like emo which is short for and means emotional rappers like 2pac, Jay Electronica makes u and your post hypocritical

U just like the gritty, hardcore, rough and rugged type straight up rappin type of emotion/substance that 2pac, Scarface, Jay Electronica, Joe Budden, Nas etc provide who all just do nothin but spit bars

Where as most people the masses prefer the catchy, melodic, musical, artistic type of emotion/substance that Eminem, B.o.B, Kid Cudi, Z-Ro, Devin The Dude, Bone Thugs etc provide

It comes down to a matter of which style 1 prefers but just because u don't like the style of emotion/substance that most people like doesn't excuse u for being a hypocrite and disrespecting emotion in music just because it doesn't suit your taste

2pac was a rapper that's all he did

While i like Artists

Nope...you see thats where youve always been wrong shadyteam

2 pac and Jay Elect are versital enough to give the streets what they want also so how is that me being a hypocrite for liking them? If anything all that proves is there is more than way to skin a cat. You think the only way to go is that mindless way of stupid hooks and rappers mixing r&b style with 20 year old guys rapping in a 50year old country ass man ascent. Those guys prove all your shit dont have to be just one way for you yo be beloved and respected

U have to get your facts straight

Drake, Cee-Lo, Phonte, Lauryn Hill, Missy Elliot are the only rappers that sing RnB style on hooks

The style of singing Eminem, Max B, Z-Ro, 50 Cent, Rich Homie Quan, Kid Cudi, Young Thug, DMX, Fetty Wap, Wiz Khalifa, B.o.B, Devin The Dude do on hooks is not RnB style of singing there isn't a genre that style of singing they do comes under. It is just catchy singing

My next few post will be songs that im talking about because with the exception of Drake the others you named im not really speaking on. Im talking about the popular trash out now. Lauren Hill and Missy aint even dropped in a long time and i bet they can still rap circles around theses clowns

 

[Swiffness!]

Welcome to Our House's biggest problem was a wack executive producer. Wack beats from superproducers and wack features? Yep, that's on the executive producer. Fucking Eminem smh.

Just Blaze will do right by them. He's spent the past couple years cultivating producers for Glass House and getting Slaughterhouse to focus on cohesive concept songs instead of "just spittin". He gets it.

 

[just.might.b.ok]

I guess Chris Rock doesnt socialize enough LOL

"People get angry when you don't mention Eminem," he later said. "They really like, 'Hey! Eminem's one of the greatest.' Okay! He's good. I'm not a big 'Stan' guy. I like 'Stan.' I loved him on 'Renegade.' He's great on 'Renegade.' I like him on a lot of stuff. I like 'Stan' but you don't hear 'Stan' at the club, ever. Not any club I wanna be at. 'It was hot last night and then they played "Stan."' 'What? Where were you? Did they play "Stan? Was it a remix or something?'"

.- Chris Rock
http://hiphopdx.com/news/id.31906/title.chris-rock-explains-why-eminems-not-in-his-top-five

 

[DR. JEK]

Shit like this shadyteam

Id much rather hear some clever wordplay than this type shit that sounds like one long hook instead of actual rapping

But these are your "Hits" that matter to you. Like i said thank God Slaughter House aint "making hits"

 

[DR. JEK]

Notice how there is no real rap flow in the hit records, just sleepy old man sounding chanting for verses


Nawl give me the weakest SH or Jay Elect joint over this shit any day of the week and twice on sundays. Hell give me Lauren Hill and Missy. This the type of shit you dont mind defending in here?

Thats self ether

 

[GunTown]

@ Jek if i wanna hear hear non singing just straight up rapping and street hip-hop

I bump Dipset they from my perspectiveas well as many others perspective as they have platinum albums make great street music

Or G Unit or Migos or 3-6 Mafia or Mobb Deep

I know u love that Word Play, Punchlines, Double Entendres, Rhyme Patterns, Similies, Complexity shit u like that that's fine but too much of that on a song doesn't sonically sound good on a song

It's about getting that balance right where as Slaughterhouse are unbalanced they have too much Word Play, too much Punchlines, too much Double Entendrers, too much Metaphors that's why i don't like their or Jay Z's music

Timeless music in all genres be it the Beatles, Eminem, Bob Marley, Jimmi Hendrix, Adele, Elvis, Prince etc is based on how the songs are sonically, musically and song writing

Do u really believe Slaughterhouse can ever make an album as good as good as Diplomatic Immunity, Beg For Mercy, The Infamous, Dogg Food? be real and honest

 

[BelovedAfeni]

stopped reading after Joe Budden speaks....

 

[qawshun]

The best way to put it is every Slaughterhouse song sounds like a Cypher rather than a Song

They have the exact same weakness as Nas which is performing and writing hooks, beat selection, making club songs, making hits and making bangers

Even though both Slaughterhouse and Nas are as technically sound and lyrical and complex as u can get these are major weakness they have

Eminem has never made a banger or club song in his life

Both Budden and Nas has made grammy nominated club hits, so Nas and Budden>>>>> EM

Grade A trolling bro

Superman

So Bad

Encore (the song)

The Real Slim Shady

Crack A Bottle

Ass Like That

Business

Bezerk

Picturing bitches twerking to "the real slim shady" got a nigga in tears b lmaooo Thanks Shady, I needed that laugh lol

It reached number 2 on the chart in America and number 1 in the chart in the U.K.

The Real Slim Shady is a bigger hit than any Nas song this is a fact. Also a bigger hit than 99% of rappers songs as most rappers don't have songs that have reached number 2 on the chart

And it's trash lol cut it out

 

[DR. JEK]

Yeah i think they can make a classic

I think the kind of classic they can make tho may not go double or triple plat tho. It may not have the melodies or atkeast be overloaded with them like you like. I think the kind of classic they can make is more closer to the kinds wu tang clan has than the kinds Your favorites have. If they were to get a DJ Premier or a Dr. Dre to really sow up the production end of it, Royce and Joey do their things on creative song concepts and Ortiz and Crook follow suit with their strengths far as making their verses rewind material as usual but also have those verses be on topic with whatever the song is...then i see no reason why their best shouldn't be yet to come. You brought up Jay Z. You know his best album is blueprint right which is widely regarded as a classic (fuck what these reasonable dought fuckers be talking about). SH could shine with that kinda format. He got his few songs that are conceptually strong like girls girls girls, song cry ect....but he also got songs where hes straight spitting like U dont know and lyrical exercise. Slaughter House has to find a balance like that that will satisfy multiple fan bases with top notch beats that they cant dominate like they have past albums. I have more confidence they can figure that out with a Just Blaze or somebody behind them than i do with the music landscape these days with those songs i posted my last post ever beginning to be tolerable.

 

[GunTown]

Yeah i think they can make a classic

I think the kind of classic they can make tho may not go double or triple plat tho. It may not have the melodies or atkeast be overloaded with them like you like. I think the kind of classic they can make is more closer to the kinds wu tang clan has than the kinds Your favorites have. If they were to get a DJ Premier or a Dr. Dre to really sow up the production end of it, Royce and Joey do their things on creative song concepts and Ortiz and Crook follow suit with their strengths far as making their verses rewind material as usual but also have those verses be on topic with whatever the song is...then i see no reason why their best shouldn't be yet to come. You brought up Jay Z. You know his best album is blueprint right which is widely regarded as a classic (fuck what these reasonable dought fuckers be talking about). SH could shine with that kinda format. He got his few songs that are conceptually strong like girls girls girls, song cry ect....but he also got songs where hes straight spitting like U dont know and lyrical exercise. Slaughter House has to find a balance like that that will satisfy multiple fan bases with top notch beats that they cant dominate like they have past albums. I have more confidence they can figure that out with a Just Blaze or somebody behind them than i do with the music landscape these days with those songs i posted my last post ever beginning to be tolerable.

Dr Dre? no way would they sound decent over Dr Dre production they would sound terrible his production would not suit them in the slighest

DJ Premier yes he is the producer that suits them the most

Jay Z doesn't have a classic album and his best album by miles is Reasonable Doubt which didn't even sell platinum and is his lowest selling album

Girls Girls Girls and Song Cry are wack songs and boring

U say u don't think Slaughterhouse can sell double or triple platinum. But u know they are not even gonna sell Gold u can bet anything on this that they never ever in their entire career will even sell Gold. Their debut album is 1 of the lowest selling albums in history

 

[GunTown]

The best way to put it is every Slaughterhouse song sounds like a Cypher rather than a Song

They have the exact same weakness as Nas which is performing and writing hooks, beat selection, making club songs, making hits and making bangers

Even though both Slaughterhouse and Nas are as technically sound and lyrical and complex as u can get these are major weakness they have

Eminem has never made a banger or club song in his life

Both Budden and Nas has made grammy nominated club hits, so Nas and Budden>>>>> EM

Grade A trolling bro

Superman

So Bad

Encore (the song)

The Real Slim Shady

Crack A Bottle

Ass Like That

Business

Bezerk

Picturing bitches twerking to "the real slim shady" got a nigga in tears b lmaooo Thanks Shady, I needed that laugh lol

It reached number 2 on the chart in America and number 1 in the chart in the U.K.

The Real Slim Shady is a bigger hit than any Nas song this is a fact. Also a bigger hit than 99% of rappers songs as most rappers don't have songs that have reached number 2 on the chart

And it's trash lol cut it out

A rappity rap fan saying a smash hit single is trash?

What a surprise who would have thought

 

[no2fuks]

@ Jek if i wanna hear hear non singing just straight up rapping and street hip-hop

I bump Dipset they from my perspectiveas well as many others perspective as they have platinum albums make great street music

Or G Unit or Migos or 3-6 Mafia or Mobb Deep

I know u love that Word Play, Punchlines, Double Entendres, Rhyme Patterns, Similies, Complexity shit u like that that's fine but too much of that on a song doesn't sonically sound good on a song

It's about getting that balance right where as Slaughterhouse are unbalanced they have too much Word Play, too much Punchlines, too much Double Entendrers, too much Metaphors that's why i don't like their or Jay Z's music

Timeless music in all genres be it the Beatles, Eminem, Bob Marley, Jimmi Hendrix, Adele, Elvis, Prince etc is based on how the songs are sonically, musically and song writing

Do u really believe Slaughterhouse can ever make an album as good as good as Diplomatic Immunity, Beg For Mercy, The Infamous, Dogg Food? be real and honest

dont you eva compare jay z's music to slaughter house!!!

 

[GunTown]

@ Jek if i wanna hear hear non singing just straight up rapping and street hip-hop

I bump Dipset they from my perspectiveas well as many others perspective as they have platinum albums make great street music

Or G Unit or Migos or 3-6 Mafia or Mobb Deep

I know u love that Word Play, Punchlines, Double Entendres, Rhyme Patterns, Similies, Complexity shit u like that that's fine but too much of that on a song doesn't sonically sound good on a song

It's about getting that balance right where as Slaughterhouse are unbalanced they have too much Word Play, too much Punchlines, too much Double Entendrers, too much Metaphors that's why i don't like their or Jay Z's music

Timeless music in all genres be it the Beatles, Eminem, Bob Marley, Jimmi Hendrix, Adele, Elvis, Prince etc is based on how the songs are sonically, musically and song writing

Do u really believe Slaughterhouse can ever make an album as good as good as Diplomatic Immunity, Beg For Mercy, The Infamous, Dogg Food? be real and honest

dont you eva compare jay z's music to slaughter house!!!

Both are great MC's, great spitters, hardcore rappers, appeal to hip hop heads, both just rap and do nothing else but spit bars, both have the same subject matter, boths fan base is predominantly males but both make trash music to me and both are the most boring ever to listen to me

Jay Z is the most lyrical MC ever and the best MC/Spitter ever

Slaughterhouse are the most lyrical group ever

 

[DR. JEK]

Yeah i think they can make a classic

I think the kind of classic they can make tho may not go double or triple plat tho. It may not have the melodies or atkeast be overloaded with them like you like. I think the kind of classic they can make is more closer to the kinds wu tang clan has than the kinds Your favorites have. If they were to get a DJ Premier or a Dr. Dre to really sow up the production end of it, Royce and Joey do their things on creative song concepts and Ortiz and Crook follow suit with their strengths far as making their verses rewind material as usual but also have those verses be on topic with whatever the song is...then i see no reason why their best shouldn't be yet to come. You brought up Jay Z. You know his best album is blueprint right which is widely regarded as a classic (fuck what these reasonable dought fuckers be talking about). SH could shine with that kinda format. He got his few songs that are conceptually strong like girls girls girls, song cry ect....but he also got songs where hes straight spitting like U dont know and lyrical exercise. Slaughter House has to find a balance like that that will satisfy multiple fan bases with top notch beats that they cant dominate like they have past albums. I have more confidence they can figure that out with a Just Blaze or somebody behind them than i do with the music landscape these days with those songs i posted my last post ever beginning to be tolerable.

Dr Dre? no way would they sound decent over Dr Dre production they would sound terrible his production would not suit them in the slighest

DJ Premier yes he is the producer that suits them the most

Jay Z doesn't have a classic album and his best album by miles is Reasonable Doubt which didn't even sell platinum and is his lowest selling album

Girls Girls Girls and Song Cry are wack songs and boring

U say u don't think Slaughterhouse can sell double or triple platinum. But u know they are not even gonna sell Gold u can bet anything on this that they never ever in their entire career will even sell Gold. Their debut album is 1 of the lowest selling albums in history

In order for them to sell there obviously has to be a shift in the rap game that takes its course. Once apon a time lyricist were the hot thing and groups like Wu Tang did do numbers. Then lyricism went outta style for a bit but trends alwaya come back around in which they would have to catch thats style at its peak again. Even Emimem cant rap like he use to rap on his first album but that type of stuff dont get bought in 2015 either. The post with those songs that i posted a few post ago is what sells now.

You know what tho, ive never been a guy who if the current trend shift to this or that then i judge accordingly. I happen to believe somebody can still drop a classic album without going plat so like i said SH has a better chance infront of them being that they can all actually rap.

As for Jay Z please dont get me started on overatted ass reasonable dought. I can go song for song in depth explanations on why he only has four songs worth a shit on that album. Since you not into wordplay im surprised that of all his albums you give that one the most respect because he seem like he spitting a lot of lyricism on that shit undermining your type of taste. Atleast Girls girls girls and song cry are conceptually strong and the song cry seem like it would be your kind of emotional shit right down your alley. Anyway.....top to bottom id put Blueprint versatility and each song having its own personally over his whole album of blaxploitation inspired beats over his Nas illmatic stolen delivery over 90 percent of those beats sounding similar any day of the week