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gemini86;c-9734440 said:Built 4 cuban linx;c-9734342 said:gemini86;c-9734296 said:Built 4 cuban linx;c-9734274 said:gemini86;c-9734238 said:Built 4 cuban linx;c-9734100 said:50 got destroyed by the lox..... Probably the most lopsided battle of all time
Most lopsided battle of all time? Seriously. I run New York had them niggas in their feelings. That's why the argument with puffy started because at the end of I run NY 50 said he was gonna buy their publishing from puffy
And the lox got scared and threatened puffy
If u like the lox better then cool. But stop with the lopsided shit.
Stop it, the lox fighting with puffy was well known wayyy before 50 shit and I run New York was trash and well known that the Shit was trash. 50 got his asswhipped from every angle..... PERIOD!!!!!!!!! I run New York never gets brought up but checkmate does.. FOH Stop with the revisionist history Shit cause you a 50 Stan
yo u dont have to call names my dude. i can see youre mad passionate but i gave legit facts. and i know alot of ppl that like i run ny. the lox even mentioned what 50 said in the song to puffy so that song did more damage than u think.
Only fact you said was 50 released a song called I run New York, the rest was bullshit you tried to throw out there cause you thought I didn't know shit
Puffy and the lox was beefing before I run New York. Stop giving 50 credit just so he could get the W
they did have beef with puff about it but it wasnt in the light like that and it resurfaced when I Run New York came out.
loch121;c-9734075 said:Who thinks Dip Set beat Nas?
P. Town;c-9734533 said:So now niggas wanna rewrite history like Nelly didn't make KRS-One sit his old ass back down?
Anyway, Joe Budden is a walking joke. Troy Ave will find a way to make the internet make memes out of Budden.
Turfaholic;c-9736414 said:All I know is 50 hasn't had an effective diss since Piggy Bank. Nelly LYRICALLY killed KRS on #1 (#1 was the Back To Back of its generation. A diss getting heavy radio play). And all of the battles Joe Budden have been included in are debatable minus the Lil B battle. Lil B surprisingly embarassed Joe.
gemini86;c-9736472 said:Turfaholic;c-9736414 said:All I know is 50 hasn't had an effective diss since Piggy Bank. Nelly LYRICALLY killed KRS on #1 (#1 was the Back To Back of its generation. A diss getting heavy radio play). And all of the battles Joe Budden have been included in are debatable minus the Lil B battle. Lil B surprisingly embarassed Joe.
So lemme get this straight. Go ahead try me and tia told me had no affect on Ross? He isn't even taken seriously on that gangsta shit at all.
But Niggas on here can argue that Meek some how damaged Drake in the long run? Oh ok
Shizlansky;c-9736932 said:50 got killed in the Ross beef
Shizlansky;c-9736932 said:50 got killed in the Ross beef
Ghostdenithegawd;c-9737067 said:Shizlansky;c-9736932 said:50 got killed in the Ross beef
Last time I remember all ross did was survive never heard anyone say this shit in my life only reason people feel 50 lost because they set a unrealistic standard of him ending careersq
BOSSExcellence;c-9737140 said:50 didnt "win" cause nobody wanted him too..
50 clowned the fuck outta Ross and if it was anyone but 50 Ross wouldve been done..
same niggas then was cryin "its only entertainment.. i dont care if Ross aint real... he got flows and he got good beat selection" are the same niggas now who hate on Drake..
Ross was the underdog that everyone was rooting for and his lame ass felt he won cause he didnt get knocked out forgetting that in that event we take it to the cards.. 50 dogged that nigga..
AP21;c-9737144 said:BOSSExcellence;c-9737140 said:50 didnt "win" cause nobody wanted him too..
50 clowned the fuck outta Ross and if it was anyone but 50 Ross wouldve been done..
same niggas then was cryin "its only entertainment.. i dont care if Ross aint real... he got flows and he got good beat selection" are the same niggas now who hate on Drake..
Ross was the underdog that everyone was rooting for and his lame ass felt he won cause he didnt get knocked out forgetting that in that event we take it to the cards.. 50 dogged that nigga..
thats not what happened boss lol
but you got it
KillaCham;c-9737143 said:What is the back story behind this beef?
BOSSExcellence;c-9737156 said:AP21;c-9737144 said:BOSSExcellence;c-9737140 said:50 didnt "win" cause nobody wanted him too..
50 clowned the fuck outta Ross and if it was anyone but 50 Ross wouldve been done..
same niggas then was cryin "its only entertainment.. i dont care if Ross aint real... he got flows and he got good beat selection" are the same niggas now who hate on Drake..
Ross was the underdog that everyone was rooting for and his lame ass felt he won cause he didnt get knocked out forgetting that in that event we take it to the cards.. 50 dogged that nigga..
thats not what happened boss lol
but you got it
what happened? lol
man back then 50 was on all them niggas head..
the "mm mm kissin" song and shit..
fuckin hilarious..
and then niggas was like "yeh, so what Wayne kissin baby"
niggas jus refused to give 50 any energy..
they was tired of him killin niggas they liked.. "its only entertainment." lol
5th Letter;c-9734785 said:loch121;c-9734427 said:5th Letter;c-9734096 said:loch121;c-9734071 said:5th Letter;c-9734022 said:loch121;c-9733947 said:5th Letter;c-9733907 said:loch121;c-9733723 said:5th Letter;c-9733648 said:This should be an interesting battle. Joe is far superior to Troy lyrically. But none of that lyrical shit matters when all Troy can do is just talk reckless and clown Budden nonstop. We know Troy gives no fucks word to Steez.
What can a nigga really say about Joe that other niggas ain't said.I know Troy can't do it any better.
It doesn't matter if other people said it before. You watch battle rap right? How many ways have you seen people take the same angle and put their own spin on it to defeat their opponent? Joe will drop a 5 minute lyrical diss on Troy and Troy is gonna say some disrespectful shit and joke on Budden. Being more lyrical isn't the only factor when it comes to battle rap.
Ppl in battle rap hate overused angles.
if you use them they better be creative.
Yeah in this case Joe could easily beat Troy.
Troy ain't the teflon don.He got some shit to talk about.
A nigga could ether his soul.Light work.
Joe has battled Game,Ransom,Jay Z(Kinda),Prodigy,G Unit etc
who the fuck is a Troy Ave?
Nas and Hov should've easily beaten Jim and Cam but them Dipset niggas kept clowning two clearly superior emcees. KRS One was supposed to wash Nelly, Budden was supposed wash Lil B, Canibus was supposed to body LL, Styles and Jada was supposed to wash 50. Again it's not just about who's more lyrical when it comes to deciding who wins a battle.
Jay wasn't even rapping when Jim was throwing darts,but Jay sent some darts that way on Kingdom Come a lot.Nobody feels like Dip Set bodied Jay.
The Nelly vs KRS shit was wack.KRS had no reasoning and he wasn't in top form.Nobody won that.Nelly's little verse was good.Nobody says Nelly beat KRS.
LiL B is a joke.Period.Nobody gives a fuck about him.He made an album called I'm gay and calls himself a pretty bitch.I don't even know why he dissed Joe.Anyway.he did nothing.He is nothing.
Canibus did body LL on 2nd round knockout.And his 1st verse was fire he had that started that on 4,3,2,1.Before LL re recorded.And I heard he got a ghostwriter.And LL...NVM
Styles and Jada did wash 50.They gave 50 the business.Piggy Bank was weak compared to the shit The Lox was saying.50 had to make friends with them niggas to stop that shit.
It's not always about lyrics,but you need them.50 beat Ja because he's a better MC.
A good/great MC can beat a lyricist and vice versa.
Troy Ave is a rapper though.He's not a move the crowd guy or a bar for bar guy.
He also has a light ass voice that doesn't sound aggressive on diss tracks.
I think you're missing the point, let me expound. Jay Z and Nas are much more lyrically advanced than Cam and Jimmy, I think we can agree on that. So based on that Nas and Jay should wash Dipset, but that didn't happen. All Cam and Jimmy did was continually clown on Jay and Nas, so in the end the less lyrically superior rappers held their own in the beef. You're making excuses to deflect from the point in terms of KRS One, the lesser talented rapper held his own, Styles and Jada did not wash 50, 50 kept joking on them (like Dipset did Jay and Nas) and threatened their careers by using his power, so whatever bars they spit against 50 was nullified. LL dropped 2 or 3 scathing disses bodying whatever career Bis had left, not saying Bis wasn't spitting. But saying otherwise is revisionist history. Lastly Lil B did to Budden what Jim and Cam did to Nas and Jay, by joking on Budden. Troy obviously has a way of saying things to get under peoples skin. He doesn't have to outbar Budden, he just has to talk shit and clown on Joe, and not let up.
Scathing LL disses? Scathing my nigga?For that matter Canibus dropped shit afterwards talking about LL getting fucked by his father figure....nigga that's scathing.
That shit he had against 2nd round knockout is rap trash .Nobody remembers that song while 2nd round knockout is easily top 5-10 diss records ever made.
So what if they joked on them.They don't have any song where I can say they got at them.
Jay and Nas didn't reply to them niggas because they knew they just wanted publicity off their names,but rap wise they weren't worth the beef.Jay sent darts though.
Jay already won the battle having them on his label and then becoming the boss off the company that distributes that company...then held up the artist they had on that label.
Nelly didn't body shit.His verse was wack.He should never open his mouth to KRS.He didn't win anything.
Talking shit and clowning isn't beating somebody in a battle
That's not all he has to do to a battle tested better MC who does this for real.
You make me not like Troy Ave acting like he built like that on some rap shit.
Anyway not to get off the point. I showed you examples of lesser talented holding their own and/or beating more talented rappers.
And I can't not make you like anybody bruh.
