JOE B SAYS CAMRON IS THE REASON FOR THE SUCCESS OF THE SOUTH & CAM'S THE REASON THEY LISTEN TO THEM

[Lefty_]

Master P claiming a lot of the market share in the wake of Big and Pacs death is what opened the door for the south takeover, they'd already had a voice in the form of outkast, ghetto boys, score face, Luke, and others. Master P signing snoop is really what took the south to another level, because he was still a very, very big name at the time. And that brought everyone's ears to the south, and no limit.

Then cash money taking the reins from no limit and making it fresher, then essentially changing what puff was doing with those shiny suits and turning it into the bling bling era/Flossin season once cash money slowed down and restructured then came lil john, jeezy, tip, gucci and the whole southern brigade round 03-04 after the GRODT tidal wave, and the rocafella break up, along with murda inc folding up, as well as ruff Ryders all but disappearing.

From there, Wayne becoming WAYNE, and influening just about every lil nigga in the country, the trap sound, and crunk dominated for 3 to 4 years, add a few dances to it and you have the era of southern dominance.

Dip set had a run, and a great wave, but it had nothing to do with the south. They were dope on their own, They deserve credit for killing Big clothes though, Jim Jones deaded that shit with the pseudo rock star look, then it evolved to other way too corny shit.

I didn't even need to watch that video to know dude is wrong.

When Wayne started to bubble, No Limit and Cash money was one their last leg. TI was hot and Jeezy was fire. Lil Wayne attached himself to Dipset even claiming them and repping the bloods to make him more popular. He had a buzz with the Carter album and his mixtapes were hot. But Being close to the Dipset who was popping at that time definitely help elevate his career. He now had the South and east coast in his pocket. Which at that time was the two biggest markets.

Lil wayne's mixtape series' is what brought him to the light, he was on that blood shit because of Mack 10. You fuckin NY niggas I swear bruh...Niggas was not waitin on that Wayne and Juelz album to hear Juelz B.

 

[blackgod813]

Webbie on suck it or not wouldve been hilarious

He's the OG version

An he killed that shit

 

[power_wisdom]

Master P claiming a lot of the market share in the wake of Big and Pacs death is what opened the door for the south takeover, they'd already had a voice in the form of outkast, ghetto boys, score face, Luke, and others. Master P signing snoop is really what took the south to another level, because he was still a very, very big name at the time. And that brought everyone's ears to the south, and no limit.

Then cash money taking the reins from no limit and making it fresher, then essentially changing what puff was doing with those shiny suits and turning it into the bling bling era/Flossin season once cash money slowed down and restructured then came lil john, jeezy, tip, gucci and the whole southern brigade round 03-04 after the GRODT tidal wave, and the rocafella break up, along with murda inc folding up, as well as ruff Ryders all but disappearing.

From there, Wayne becoming WAYNE, and influening just about every lil nigga in the country, the trap sound, and crunk dominated for 3 to 4 years, add a few dances to it and you have the era of southern dominance.

Dip set had a run, and a great wave, but it had nothing to do with the south. They were dope on their own, They deserve credit for killing Big clothes though, Jim Jones deaded that shit with the pseudo rock star look, then it evolved to other way too corny shit.

I didn't even need to watch that video to know dude is wrong.

When Wayne started to bubble, No Limit and Cash money was one their last leg. TI was hot and Jeezy was fire. Lil Wayne attached himself to Dipset even claiming them and repping the bloods to make him more popular. He had a buzz with the Carter album and his mixtapes were hot. But Being close to the Dipset who was popping at that time definitely help elevate his career. He now had the South and east coast in his pocket. Which at that time was the two biggest markets.

Lil wayne's mixtape series' is what brought him to the light, he was on that blood shit because of Mack 10. You fuckin NY niggas I swear bruh...Niggas was not waitin on that Wayne and Juelz album to hear Juelz B.

Dipset made it cool to be a fake Blood. outside the western half of the country. Nobody was talking about Mack 10 in music. His career had been over in the mid 2000s. And Wayne wasn't repping blood hard until he started to hang with Dipset. Not say Mac 10 didn't but him down. But that wasn't what he was selling. His mixtapes got him hot, but hanging with Cam and them got him bazing on the whole east coast. And I'm from NJ nigga.

 

[SheerExcellence]

I did not listen to this interview. However, I will say as far as nyc goes, cam'ron had a big influence on diversifying what people listened too.

even before co-signing wayne. He had mixtape joints with T.I. before a lot of dudes in nyc was messing with t.i like that. He had wayne and baby on the oh boy remix back in 2002. And even looking at other regions, he had the lunatics on his mixtapes and even did songs with twista and shit.

not to mention he always toured down south and even remade bout it bout it, at a time when a lot of ny'ers were not messing with the south like that. did he invent the south? NO, of course not. but did he bring a southern vibe to ny sound, yes.

did he have uptown saying "bout it bout it" yes. did he have uptown checking old twista albums and adreneline rush, yes.

and he was forever shouting out ohio and all other kinds of cities in the midwest. and giving props to all kinds of folks even doing songs with bonecrusher and rapping over gucci mane and oj da juicemayne beats, at a time when nyc'ers were booing oj da juiceman off stage...

how can anyone say cam didn't help influence south in nyc?

 

[Ear2DaSt]

I think the fans in the south co-signing Dipset gave dispset power ...

There have been time when Ny was not so hott

but you had south nuccaz like Paul Wall and others that was influenced by Dipset

I believe Dipset influenced the fashion not necessarily the music.

Dipset helped Dipset to me they didn't help South rappers to get recognized

but may have contributed to them getting more luv

Most definitely put Harlem on to the South but the other Boroughs maybe not as much

South had to collab with other Ny greats from those places like Queens etc.

To say the only reason NYC messes with the South is cuz of Dipset is not true imo ....

 

[Shizlansky]

Carter 1 and 2 is why the East coast fucked with wayne and I hear no dipset influence

Wayne was spitting that fire on squad type before he linked up with Dipset

 

[qawshun]

I think the fans in the south co-signing Dipset gave dispset power ...

There have been time when Ny was not so hott

but you had south nuccaz like Paul Wall and others that was influenced by Dipset

I believe Dipset influenced the fashion not necessarily the music.

Dipset helped Dipset to me they didn't help South rappers to get recognized

but may have contributed to them getting more luv

Most definitely put Harlem on to the South but the other Boroughs maybe not as much

South had to collab with other Ny greats from those places like Queens etc.

To say the only reason NYC messes with the South is cuz of Dipset is not true imo ....

Ny still had things on smash during dipsets run so how did the south give them power ? Dipset didn't need a south co-sign. I agree that ny did mess with the south but you had to be official, like face and outkast etc

I never really rocked with cash money. I honestly prolly only heard 5 juve songs no albums, i never liked bg i didn't like Wayne until the show me what you got freestyle.

Master p and ghetto dope was dope.

 

[JonnyRoccIT]

Cam was a fan of southern music and was tryna make it Okay for Northerners to fuck with Southern music.

He collaborated with and incorporated a lot of southern shit in his music at times and yes he did Slow the tempo down in NY. Southerners have been rapping over slow tempos since early 90s.

Three 6 Mafia, Ludacris, TIP basically introduced the Trap sound during this time, Trick Daddy, Outkast, Lil Wayne, Lil Jon & the Eastside Boys and their Crunk Movement and many others was KILLIN shit at that time, so to say Camron was the Driving force behind that and the following success of the South is fucking Blasphemous

 

[mike06]

he aint lyin....What Means the World did have that bounce tho lol

 

[mike06]

Cam was a fan of southern music and was tryna make it Okay for Northerners to fuck with Southern music.

He collaborated with and incorporated a lot of southern shit in his music at times and yes he did Slow the tempo down in NY. Southerners have been rapping over slow tempos since early 90s.

Three 6 Mafia, Ludacris, TIP basically introduced the Trap sound during this time, Trick Daddy, Outkast, Lil Wayne, Lil Jon & the Eastside Boys and their Crunk Movement and many others was KILLIN shit at that time, so to say Camron was the Driving force behind that and the following success of the South is fucking Blasphemous

this was all Joe was tryin to point out lol

alot of ya'll really take things too literally or waaaaaaaaay out of context

 

[Ear2DaSt]

Im looking it up on wiki Dipset got one platinum album

Cam got one platinum

Juelz got one gold album

Im not sure if this is factual they may have more

but I never felt they was just super huge and it looks like a short run a couple years

that don't mean they don't have impact

but it aint like they going double platinum or platinum every time they dropped

people over hype dipset if they was so huge they would be triple platinum every time out

they just from Harlem and Harlem has a huge influence on Hip-Hop culture

it is what it is not taking nothing away but yall slightly over exagerating their influence

saying the South wasn't poppin in New York before them

They see the South holding it down so of course we are gonna get shine up there

of course we are gonna influence up there they started rapping like us

for the most part we aint never tried to rap like them

we always put that southern swag in our music

 

[mike06]

who was NY really fuckin wit from the south like that before Wayne?...seriously....they boo'ed the fuck outta Outkast at the Source awards in new york city....yes CMR and NL was poppin but don't act like niggas was really fuckin with them like they was fuckin wit Wayne(even outside of the music)...once Wayne was embraced by Dipset who was embraced by NY as tha new hot shit at the time....what Joe is sayin makes sense

 

[mike06]

once Wayne was "lyrically" embraced by the hip hop mecca it opened the doors for niggas in the south who can spit to actually get some shine in NY where they notoriously shitted on the south for years

 

[aneed123]

this what these arrogant new yorkers/east coast niggas do.. ignore the whole souths music from the late 80s to early 2000s then try to give a another new yorker credit for the souths 2000's to now success... then try to play ignorant or naive when folk call them out on it.

 

[aneed123]

I'm guessing by success of the South he talking about the South taking over NY becuz outside of the East the South been popular niggaz been rocking with no limit and cash money way B4 Dipset started messing with em

rap a lot ,suave house no limit, hypnotized minds, screwed up click slip n slide dungeon family dsgb ....south been on

 

[aneed123]

Wayne was heavily influenced by Cam and Jay. If you listened to the early Squad Up tapes when Wayne started changing up his flow and delivery. He was rhyming on a lot of Jays beats and mimicking his flow. Then he started fucking with Dipset and using the Heatmakerz beats. Wayne really started popping off when he embraced the east sound and punchline style. That's all factz!

south aint just lil wayne... he was poppin and popular before that and after that

 

[Beta]

I'm guessing by success of the South he talking about the South taking over NY becuz outside of the East the South been popular niggaz been rocking with no limit and cash money way B4 Dipset started messing with em

rap a lot ,suave house no limit, hypnotized minds, screwed up click slip n slide dungeon family dsgb ....south been on

When has anybody from these cliques and labels been hot and received well in NY before 2005?

 

[Stew]

Here we go....

 

[SolemnSauce]

When I was 14 I was living in Jersey. Reasonable doubt hadn't been out too long cause this nigga around the way used to stay telling us how JayZ was the next big thing and we used to tell him to get the fuck outta here wit that shit. Nore's super thug had just become a hit.

And niggaz was def. fucking wit no limit, so I call bullshit.

 

[GetoBoy]

I'm not in the East so if niggaz out there say they wasn't rocking with South music till Dipset I'll take y'all word for it but out West the South been successful out this way since the South and Cali are damn near related