Jay-Z's Ties To '5%' Downplayed Following 'We Made It' .. .

[Kwan Dai]

daaaaaammmmnnn you really typed alladat bruh?????

First time for everything I suppose.

 

[texasdaking88]

I don't think I read anything on the last page.. Lol

 

[sully]

The Yacub story is not meant to be taken literally though. It was a teaching tool.

There's no intelligent scientist on earth that would disagree about the Yacub story. I just recently took a biology course and they explained how dominant and recessive genes work. You can most definitely start of with a black gene and graft all the way down to white. There isn't a biologist alive that would say that that can't happen.

So you just recently took a biology course, huh? okay...

i guess theoretically, you COULD graft purely out of recessive genes, but implying in any form that the Yakub story is in any way true proposes a few things:

1. That there was a fundamental understanding of modern genetics thousands of years ago.

2. That there was a scientist who, in all likelihood, captured, and forced mating among hundreds if not thousands of his own people for some sick genetic experiment. An African Josef Mengele, if you will.

3. That such a 'scientist' lived long enough for the results of such experimentation to come to fruition.

 

[sully]

The Yacub story is not meant to be taken literally though. It was a teaching tool.

There's no intelligent scientist on earth that would disagree about the Yacub story. I just recently took a biology course and they explained how dominant and recessive genes work. You can most definitely start of with a black gene and graft all the way down to white. There isn't a biologist alive that would say that that can't happen.

A biology course does not make a evolutionary biologist. Study more

Sir, I assure you that there are dominant and recessive genes in all aspects of life. If you purposely separate the dominant genes from the recessive gene, after a few generations the dominant gene is completely extinct. You can scientifically prove that with any species.

Furthermore, the reason the Black race didn't go extinct is because Yacub took 59,999 followers to the Patmos Islands. So there were still Black people elsewhere. But yeah, it took 200 years to graft from black to brown, another 200 years to graft from brown to yellow and another 200 years before they completed the grafting process and completed the blonde haired, blue-eyed white man (and woman).

Its a fact.

what's your college professor's name? i need to know who to slap across the face for passing your dumbass.

 

[sully]

The Yacub story is not meant to be taken literally though. It was a teaching tool.

There's no intelligent scientist on earth that would disagree about the Yacub story. I just recently took a biology course and they explained how dominant and recessive genes work. You can most definitely start of with a black gene and graft all the way down to white. There isn't a biologist alive that would say that that can't happen.

A biology course does not make a evolutionary biologist. Study more

Sir, I assure you that there are dominant and recessive genes in all aspects of life. If you purposely separate the dominant genes from the recessive gene, after a few generations the dominant gene is completely extinct. You can scientifically prove that with any species.

Furthermore, the reason the Black race didn't go extinct is because Yacub took 59,999 followers to the Patmos Islands. So there were still Black people elsewhere. But yeah, it took 200 years to graft from black to brown, another 200 years to graft from brown to yellow and another 200 years before they completed the grafting process and completed the blonde haired, blue-eyed white man (and woman).

Its a fact.

What about all the other genes? Sorry but it's not adding up.

bruh...he took a biology course. unlike the rest of the world, he knows that there are dominant and recessive genes.

 

[5 Grand]

The Yacub story is not meant to be taken literally though. It was a teaching tool.

There's no intelligent scientist on earth that would disagree about the Yacub story. I just recently took a biology course and they explained how dominant and recessive genes work. You can most definitely start of with a black gene and graft all the way down to white. There isn't a biologist alive that would say that that can't happen.

So you just recently took a biology course, huh? okay...

i guess theoretically, you COULD graft purely out of recessive genes, but implying in any form that the Yakub story is in any way true proposes a few things:

1. That there was a fundamental understanding of modern genetics thousands of years ago.

2. That there was a scientist who, in all likelihood, captured, and forced mating among hundreds if not thousands of his own people for some sick genetic experiment. An African Josef Mengele, if you will.

3. That such a 'scientist' lived long enough for the results of such experimentation to come to fruition.

1. Its pretty simple. Yacub noticed that some black people were darker than others.

2. Elijah Muhammad explains how it happened. Basically the people were dissatisfied and followed him. Happens all the time. Read any history book about any civilization and there's always a leader/king that steps up and makes history. Really if you study any civilization, there's always a king that known to that era.

3. Yacub didn't live to see the race that he created but his followers carried out his plans.

 

[S2J]

Cant make this shyt up...im tryna find somethin on that styles p aaliyah diss lol and i find this in a old boxden thread:

"jaz-o used to sell incents (sp?) on bushwick ave., i actually bought incence from him, that ish smelled good, nicca had a cart and was wearing a tank top and sandals."

 

[sully]

The Yacub story is not meant to be taken literally though. It was a teaching tool.

There's no intelligent scientist on earth that would disagree about the Yacub story. I just recently took a biology course and they explained how dominant and recessive genes work. You can most definitely start of with a black gene and graft all the way down to white. There isn't a biologist alive that would say that that can't happen.

So you just recently took a biology course, huh? okay...

i guess theoretically, you COULD graft purely out of recessive genes, but implying in any form that the Yakub story is in any way true proposes a few things:

1. That there was a fundamental understanding of modern genetics thousands of years ago.

2. That there was a scientist who, in all likelihood, captured, and forced mating among hundreds if not thousands of his own people for some sick genetic experiment. An African Josef Mengele, if you will.

3. That such a 'scientist' lived long enough for the results of such experimentation to come to fruition.

1. Its pretty simple. Yacub noticed that some black people were darker than others.

2. Elijah Muhammad explains how it happened. Basically the people were dissatisfied and followed him. Happens all the time. Read any history book about any civilization and there's always a leader/king that steps up and makes history. Really if you study any civilization, there's always a king that known to that era.

3. Yacub didn't live to see the race that he created but his followers carried out his plans.

seriously, where did you take your biology course?

 

[5 Grand]

The Yacub story is not meant to be taken literally though. It was a teaching tool.

There's no intelligent scientist on earth that would disagree about the Yacub story. I just recently took a biology course and they explained how dominant and recessive genes work. You can most definitely start of with a black gene and graft all the way down to white. There isn't a biologist alive that would say that that can't happen.

So you just recently took a biology course, huh? okay...

i guess theoretically, you COULD graft purely out of recessive genes, but implying in any form that the Yakub story is in any way true proposes a few things:

1. That there was a fundamental understanding of modern genetics thousands of years ago.

2. That there was a scientist who, in all likelihood, captured, and forced mating among hundreds if not thousands of his own people for some sick genetic experiment. An African Josef Mengele, if you will.

3. That such a 'scientist' lived long enough for the results of such experimentation to come to fruition.

1. Its pretty simple. Yacub noticed that some black people were darker than others.

2. Elijah Muhammad explains how it happened. Basically the people were dissatisfied and followed him. Happens all the time. Read any history book about any civilization and there's always a leader/king that steps up and makes history. Really if you study any civilization, there's always a king that known to that era.

3. Yacub didn't live to see the race that he created but his followers carried out his plans.

seriously, where did you take your biology course?

I've taken Biology twice. Both times at community colleges. Here's a diagram if you don't understand how dominant and recessive traits work. Basically, in the diagram bellow, the yellow is the dominant gene(Y) and the green is the recessive gene. There's a 3/4 chance that baby pea will be yellow because if it goes Y/y or y/Y the yellow(Y) would dominate because yellow(Y) is the dominant gene. There's a 1/4 chance that both genes will be green(y/y) and the pea would have recessive traits (i.e. it would appear green).

 

[Like Water]

So I just researched all the hullabaloo that Jay rocking this chain has caused and these peckerwoods are really pissed, aren't they? Most of these faggots spew blatantly racist rhetoric on a daily basis and they get mad when a rapper, of all things, wears a chain that goes against their twisted ideology?

Man, fuck these muthafuckas. The older I get the more I just wanna be a cotdamn recluse.

 

[sully]

The Yacub story is not meant to be taken literally though. It was a teaching tool.

There's no intelligent scientist on earth that would disagree about the Yacub story. I just recently took a biology course and they explained how dominant and recessive genes work. You can most definitely start of with a black gene and graft all the way down to white. There isn't a biologist alive that would say that that can't happen.

So you just recently took a biology course, huh? okay...

i guess theoretically, you COULD graft purely out of recessive genes, but implying in any form that the Yakub story is in any way true proposes a few things:

1. That there was a fundamental understanding of modern genetics thousands of years ago.

2. That there was a scientist who, in all likelihood, captured, and forced mating among hundreds if not thousands of his own people for some sick genetic experiment. An African Josef Mengele, if you will.

3. That such a 'scientist' lived long enough for the results of such experimentation to come to fruition.

1. Its pretty simple. Yacub noticed that some black people were darker than others.

2. Elijah Muhammad explains how it happened. Basically the people were dissatisfied and followed him. Happens all the time. Read any history book about any civilization and there's always a leader/king that steps up and makes history. Really if you study any civilization, there's always a king that known to that era.

3. Yacub didn't live to see the race that he created but his followers carried out his plans.

seriously, where did you take your biology course?

I've taken Biology twice. Both times at community colleges. Here's a diagram if you don't understand how dominant and recessive traits work. Basically, in the diagram bellow, the yellow is the dominant gene(Y) and the green is the recessive gene. There's a 3/4 chance that baby pea will be yellow because if it goes Y/y or y/Y the yellow(Y) would dominate because yellow(Y) is the dominant gene. There's a 1/4 chance that both genes will be green(y/y) and the pea would have recessive traits (i.e. it would appear green).

lmao....u think i don't know how genetics works? i know more about genetics and biology than you can even imagine. bruh....u don't know enough to speak authoritatively. i'm being nice to you and telling you to fall back b/c you're wrong. I mean, it's good that you know the basics about genetics, but showing me Mendel's work on peas doesn't prove the story of Yakub.

 

[5 Grand]

Sir, are you saying that Master Fard Muhammad and Elijah Muhammad's explanation of how the white race was created IS or IS NOT scientifically, biogenetically 100% possible?

In a nutshell he got the dark skinned blacks and separated them from the lighter brown skinned blacks. Then he kept going.

Are you saying that it IS or IS NOT possible to do in 600 years?

 

[ocelot]

When you make too much bread they try to jam you

 

[5 Grand]

The Yacub story is not meant to be taken literally though. It was a teaching tool.

There's no intelligent scientist on earth that would disagree about the Yacub story. I just recently took a biology course and they explained how dominant and recessive genes work. You can most definitely start of with a black gene and graft all the way down to white. There isn't a biologist alive that would say that that can't happen.

So you just recently took a biology course, huh? okay...

i guess theoretically, you COULD graft purely out of recessive genes, but implying in any form that the Yakub story is in any way true proposes a few things:

1. That there was a fundamental understanding of modern genetics thousands of years ago.

2. That there was a scientist who, in all likelihood, captured, and forced mating among hundreds if not thousands of his own people for some sick genetic experiment. An African Josef Mengele, if you will.

3. That such a 'scientist' lived long enough for the results of such experimentation to come to fruition.

1. Its pretty simple. Yacub noticed that some black people were darker than others.

2. Elijah Muhammad explains how it happened. Basically the people were dissatisfied and followed him. Happens all the time. Read any history book about any civilization and there's always a leader/king that steps up and makes history. Really if you study any civilization, there's always a king that known to that era.

3. Yacub didn't live to see the race that he created but his followers carried out his plans.

seriously, where did you take your biology course?

I've taken Biology twice. Both times at community colleges. Here's a diagram if you don't understand how dominant and recessive traits work. Basically, in the diagram bellow, the yellow is the dominant gene(Y) and the green is the recessive gene. There's a 3/4 chance that baby pea will be yellow because if it goes Y/y or y/Y the yellow(Y) would dominate because yellow(Y) is the dominant gene. There's a 1/4 chance that both genes will be green(y/y) and the pea would have recessive traits (i.e. it would appear green).

lmao....u think i don't know how genetics works? i know more about genetics and biology than you can even imagine. bruh....u don't know enough to speak authoritatively. i'm being nice to you and telling you to fall back b/c you're wrong. I mean, it's good that you know the basics about genetics, but showing me Mendel's work on peas doesn't prove the story of Yakub.

C'mon man, you claiming to be an expert in genetics and biology. Why don't you drop some science? (no pun intended). Tell everybody on the messageboard whether or not the Yacub theory IS or IS NOT 100% possible. And why or why not?

You're the one claiming to be an expert in science and telling me to "fall back". Well, I'm good at writing and I'm telling you to put up or shut up.

 

[semi-auto-mato]

My advice to you then is stop responding. Other wise let it ride.

No that wasn't your interpretation. In fact you said "it was a play on him having money to travel...he later said everywhere i go i got land there. again a play on him having the cash to do what he felt." So, we will dismiss your emphasis put on Jays money. In fact you seem to be infatuated by it.

I didn't get upset. In fact I responded by saying "That's your interpretation. No Blackman with an ounce of self respect would refer to themselves as Euro anything. If your interpretation was correct it would still be a contradiction of 5% theology. What you offered us certainly doesn't describe a poor righteous teacher." This is your description of upset? It was your remedial ass that stayed on the Euro Jay kick. Even though I halfway agreed with your interpretation.

What self respecting Blackman titles himself as Euro anything? I don't care if he just came back from vacation and has the means to travel Mars. Only a man infatuated with Euro culture says such a thing. In the very least he's delusional. If, you could not draw this conclusion from my initial responses to you then, every name I have titled you stands.

What I do find interesting is, for someone who is complaining about insults and internet etiquette. You have no problem throwing nigga out there. Any ways.

That's your opinion. And any group that would describe another race as devils has to be prepared to defend themselves against racist attacks. So, the article isn't, that far off based in their implications. I don't agree 100% with NGOE and certainly aint siding with mass media. So, while it aint your place. Your concern should be with anyone misrepresenting a group and not coming forward to express their feelings or level of involvement within the group. So, it would appear Jayz and the Post are doing the exact same thing. Misrepresenting the NGOE.

Jayz going around doing mass media with a NGOE symbol on his neck is, bringing attention to the NGOE and their ideology (dry snitching). If, Jayz wasn't prepared to defend NGOE or explain his level of involvement why wear it? That's right it's not your concern. You are only concerned with surface shit.

You are a Johnny come lately. My first post (quoted below). If, you couldn't come to the conclusion that a religious ideology that teaches the BlackMan is God, and whites are the devil doesn't mix with EURO anything I don't know what to tell you. This isn't rocket science. Any context you try to spin EURO it doesn't mix with 5%.



"Yeah it is the same. You are dismissing his Kufi line. Jay wearing the Universal Flag is similar to Nas wearing a Kufi.

So, is it Euro Jay or 5% Jay?

Stop fronting."



So, continue playing dumb like you can't put two and two together. The answers have been in my posts from the outset. I see you and others getting upset because, you aren't being spoon fed obvious observations. As I said early on. I don't take other people tests. Do your own reading. You do the knowledge on how and why a BlackMan titling himself Euro anything for whatever reasons he wishes then, is seen wearing a Custom made symbol f(rom a culture, group, ideology) that describes Euro's who originated from the the Caucus mountains as devils is a direct contradiction. And lastly how his actions is now bringing unwanted to attention to NGOE.

smh...u say let it ride then type a thesis?

i dont get how u can say no self respecting black man would call himself euro jay (and i still say it wasnt meant the way u put it...but hey we just disagree). if u call one out then call everyone out...if they call themself esco, frank white, scarface, tony starks, or makaveli.

u have no idea what these dudes may or may not be into. i have had the chance to sit down and meet jay personally. the meet was at a black conference. we talked about the black community and hip hop. jay, dr. west, toni morrison, and some others. we didnt even know he was coming. he just came and it was only maybe 40 of us. i dont say that as a reason for giving him a pass. i did find him to be aware and proud. he also contributed to the discussion and made some good points. there was no new media there. he didnt seek publicity for it. he came on his own. we did not pay him. we didnt put him up in a hotel nor did we fly him here or pay any fee or transportation. he had no bodyguards. i will never support a white media outlet kicking in the back of a black man for any reason at all. they are attacking more than jay z here. i dont care about a battle that happened over 10 years ago. let the nge (thanks @5grand) check him. they can if they want...he is reachable.. we got to him so i know they can as well.

as for worrying about his pocket. i own homes in the hood. i rent a 5 bedroom apt. to a black family for 1500 a month. the only time i worry about another man's pocket is when it comes to my rent. i tell everyone to tell me what u can afford and i will work with u. im far from a slumlord. its the reason i have had some of my tenants remain in my homes for as long as 15 years. when they leave they are usually buying their own homes. these crackas aint gonna act llike i aint on they ass.

some of us believe in economics. i cant help the poor if im one of them.

i only asked u questions. i never threw u out there. with that said i will gracefully bow out

 

[mr.october]

Just wanna say as a 1st born, I don't appreciate him misleading the people with his interpretations of the lessons of the father.

 

[mr.october]

No one should where a circle 7 n not teach knowledge of self

 

[Kwan Dai]

I was going to put some time into my response but it's pointless. I made my points and answered your questions as best I could. But it's a shame all you could come up with is divulging your finances, and implying my opinion of Jayz is based on my economic\community status. It's no wonder why you are riding so hard for dude. You have no humility. It's classless to divulge such information. And that's why I would never do such a thing. You keep right on believing you are the only one here with stable finances and the means to move as you please. Thus making your opinions more valid. You more then likely have nothing else going for you otherwise. I get it.

 

[semi-auto-mato]

u know what u are right. my bad and i apologize for the earlier statement that implied maybe u had some resentment towards jay z because of his economic status. i also apologize if for some reason u feel im putting my money out there in some way to say my opinion is more valid. classless and a lack of humility are words or phrases i would never use to describe myself. im sorry u would use those words to describe me.

i never will consider myself to be better than anyone. i dont think im more stable than anyone and dont think im doing anything any different from a whole bunch of people here. i have no idea about ur situation. i do not pass judgement on u. i have for the most part refrained from insulting u (or at least i thought i did) but if i did then i apologize for that as well. like i said i am trying to gracefully bow here and im only responding because of the classless and lack of humility comments.

i am conceding defeat here. so u take the W and i will take the L. we both just move along like u said.

 

[5 Grand]

Still waiting on @ Sully to drop some knowledge.

I'm not gonna let this thread go to the second page until Sully starts making sense. The mods are gonna have to lock this thread because I'm just going to keep bumping it up until Sully gives a logical explanaition as to why he thinks Elijah Muhammad's Yacub theory is unscientific. He claims to be an expert in Genetics and Science.