Jay-z speaks on the criticism of why he doens't help his artist

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GrizTitan;3910700 said:
When is he going to address the fact that he is a terrible CEO and his flow is Young Chris's and his lyrics are borrowed?

Young Chris flow + Biggie lyrics = Jay-Z since 00?

and shit didn't work out for young chris cause he came out after jay and obviously sounded like the one imitating hov. same way that the NOE guy that Jim Jones signed and sounded exactly like Jay didn't blow up either
 
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This is just common sense and what I thought all along..................Hate on Jay, but the only reason he signed Cole was cause he saw the nigga had the abilty, just needed an opportunity.

J.Cole didn't have to bring out an album that he didn't like, unlike Lupe.
 
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uolag;3911026 said:
nice drop

J.Cole has a bright future ahead of him and wish him the best. I only played his album once though. I'm gonna listen to it again tonight.
Like Canibus said. "It's a cole world right now. keep spittin those hot rhymes' lmao @ that video still
 
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UPTOWN (CONNEXX);3910805 said:
Critic: Yo Jay why didnt you help j cole out more??

Jay: I wasnt worried. i already knew he was gonna blow. thats how good of a ceo i am

But had Jay helped him more, he'd had been babying him and y'all would be talking about J.Cole using Jay as a crutch. Instead of doing that he simply let his mans cook by himself and make his own path and he STILL gets criticized? Smh Euro Jay won again
 
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PimpMVP;3910737 said:
"Nobody has yet to explain if Elvis stole black artists styles and lyrics that were so good.. then why didn't it work out for most of those black artists"

Allow me to answer your retort. Back in the 40's 50's & Some of the 60's It was quite regular for labels & White Artist to use take borrow & steal any music property from Black Artist Mostly with no payment. (See The Movie Cadillac Records For Examples) But that was then this is now. We have New Laws more notoriety for Artist. And the Grand Daddy of them all......The Internet.
 
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bankrupt baller;3910857 said:
damn ether

Not really...that's a bad comparison actually....you think putting out music in the 50's is the same as it is now? Bottom line, if that famous flow of Young Chris was/is so great, Chris would have blown up with it...regardless if Jay had the same flow or not, how many rappers have made hit songs/careers out of doing the same shit another rapper does...like Jay put a ban on any other rapper using that flow
 
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that formula was right for Cole because Cole was hungry and motivated.

but do yall think it will work for Jay Electronica?
 
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BobOblah;3912937 said:
that formula was right for Cole because Cole was hungry and motivated.

but do yall think it will work for Jay Electronica?

I don't understand why people have this perception Jay E ain't working. Just Blaze and Young Guru have said he is finishing up his album.

As for Jay E, his following is a little different than J Cole. J Cole had to release those mixtapes because nobody knew him, Jay E is one of those mysterious artist that has a cult following basically off of one song (Exhibit C). He is way ahead of J Cole at where they started, even though it would be nice if Jay E would put out a mixtape to set up his album.
 
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shenco;3911201 said:
But had Jay helped him more, he'd had been babying him and y'all would be talking about J.Cole using Jay as a crutch. Instead of doing that he simply let his mans cook by himself and make his own path and he STILL gets criticized? Smh Euro Jay won again
first off ... just calling him euro jay in itself is a loss. nas did an album with damien marley. went down to the west indies etc. so now he's "west indian nas" ??? foh

i like jay z ... i listened to all his albums and i only didnt like like 2 or 3 of them

nobody said beans used jay as a crutch when jay put an entire song on beans' album to help it sell

nobody said jay was not helping bleek when bleek was trying to "cook by himself" and "make his own path"

fact is jay cant sit here and act like he knew cole was gonna blow. all he has to do is admit that he doesnt want to get too involved with anyone after the whole rocafella situation. and that he feels that he doesnt want to hop on songs unless it will help him benefit too.

funny that he brings up kanye, because this nigga hopped on diamonds are forever fast as fuck AFTER that shit caught fire

all im saying is keep it real. dont try to act like youre fuckin clive davis discovering all kinds of talent and shit LOL. j cole isnt even THAT big anyway. just say "the lil dude did it on his own just like me" and K.I.M.
 
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@ UPTOWNCONNEXX

I think you are missing the point son, crutch may have been a bad word imo. I would say Kanye and J Cole are much more self contained artist, essentially they can sustain success beyond affiliation with Jay-z. Kanye has carved out his own niche in the rap game, he is essentially Jay-z peer now not his little buddy or sidekick.

I don't think he knew Cole was gonna blow up, but i think he learned from Rocafella earlier failures. As for benefit, how does it really benefit him when he is a bigger artist than J Cole.

He worked with Kanye way before Diamonds are forever on the BP2 (The Bounce) before anyone knew who Kanye was.
 
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CeLLaR-DooR;3910772 said:
CS this and most comments...I'd rather be at ROC Nation than most other labels...Complete creative freedom outchea...

How is it complete creative freedom when J.Cole's album was filled with pop shit? You mean to tell me J.Cole purposely put out those wack songs?

... Or were they not pop songs in your opinion?
 
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NothingButTheTruth;3913149 said:
How is it complete creative freedom when J.Cole's album was filled with pop shit? You mean to tell me J.Cole purposely put out those wack songs?

... Or were they not pop songs in your opinion?

What pop song?
 
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