Jay-Z Speaks On Race! "We're More Alike Than We're Separate"

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jono;7683577 said:
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The video is more profound that I thought it would be. Talking about the impact of hip-hop on race relations and saying that it brings people together and makes racism more difficult..it's a very good premise and I respect that statement.

I think we see a lot of how hip-hop has stitched race relations and we also see the consequence of it.

Can u please give me a detail explanation, of how hiphop is fixing race relations?

Hiphop is on a long list of music cultures that blacks created, and other ppl love n eventually take. Jazz was the biggest genre at one point, so was Rock, and so was Soul music and motown.

Did those other genres fix race relations??

Do people coming together to root for Lebron or Cam Newton also fix race relations?

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Say What;7683433 said:
D0wn;7683412 said:
jono;7683338 said:
The video is more profound that I thought it would be. Talking about the impact of hip-hop on race relations and saying that it brings people together and makes racism more difficult..it's a very good premise and I respect that statement.

I think we see a lot of how hip-hop has stitched race relations and we also see the consequence of it.

Can u please give me a detail explanation, of how hiphop is fixing race relations?

Hiphop is on a long list of music cultures that blacks created, and other ppl love n eventually take. Jazz was the biggest genre at one point, so was Rock, and so was Soul music and motown.

Did those other genres fix race relations??

Do people coming together to root for Lebron or Cam Newton also fix race relations?

Fix never but improve. Ray Charles and other artist boycotting the south until they integrated helped. It won't reach everyone but many of the white Motown fans are cool with Black people

That's what niggas don't get. No such thing as a silver bullet on societal issues.

The only way to IMPROVE race relations, is by IMPROVING your economy...

No goofy as music will IMPROVE a damn thing.

If more respectable genres such as Jazz, Blues, Rock, Funk,Reggae etc. Did not improve race relations.
a senior on stage, rapping about drugs he sold 30 years ago will???

Most rappers are minstrel performers.

Blk ppl being economically independent and self sufficient, is how race relations will improve.

Except your wrong and they have. Bob Marley brought people of all races and nationalities together, so did Duke Ellington, Ray Charles, Stevie Wonder, The Temptations, Michael Jackson, Tupac, Kanye, Beyoncé, Jay-Z, and even the Wu-Tang Clan these are well known Black acts that have the power to branch across race or nationality, hell some of them have more white fans than black ones.

You have been disproven but you can continue to rant and rave on the subject all day if you want. Again, there's no silver bullets and nobody claimed that hip-hop is one, but to say that it doesn't help is a lie, a flat lie.

To say race relations in the United States is the same today as it was in Ellington's time or the heyday of The Temptations is also a lie and music has helped tremendously with that.

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You forgot to add that, Barak, Michelle, and daughters. improved race relations in America as well.
 
D0wn;7683648 said:
Say What;7683542 said:
D0wn;7683510 said:
Say What;7683433 said:
D0wn;7683412 said:
jono;7683338 said:
The video is more profound that I thought it would be. Talking about the impact of hip-hop on race relations and saying that it brings people together and makes racism more difficult..it's a very good premise and I respect that statement.

I think we see a lot of how hip-hop has stitched race relations and we also see the consequence of it.

Can u please give me a detail explanation, of how hiphop is fixing race relations?

Hiphop is on a long list of music cultures that blacks created, and other ppl love n eventually take. Jazz was the biggest genre at one point, so was Rock, and so was Soul music and motown.

Did those other genres fix race relations??

Do people coming together to root for Lebron or Cam Newton also fix race relations?

Fix never but improve. Ray Charles and other artist boycotting the south until they integrated helped. It won't reach everyone but many of the white Motown fans are cool with Black people

During slavery, Many white ppl were cool with Blk PpL also.

So that's what it boils down to,

Having some white ppl liking niggas?

Black students, attending and graduating college is, at an all time high. yet, 68% of new African american college graduates,are either unemployed or under employed.

But hey, on my way to work today. i sat next to a white girl, on the train. she was listening to rap just like me.

Strangely, She turned to me and smiled, and asked if i love Kanye, i smiled back and a conversation ensues.

come to find out, we went to the same school,and graduated with the same degree. She works at a firm , me at a McDonalds.

But hey #GoodRaceRelations. I doubt me, and her would of talked in the 50's.

I took Jay to mean day to day racism. Systematic racism still exist and will take a while to fall. I'm sure we have it better one than previous era's. It will only continue. Blame yourself for working at McDonald's. She might of had some hookups but you made your own luck if you have the same degree and work at McDonald's

so we both agree, systematic racism exist , and is prevalent in our society.

Since its prevlant in our society, you're telling me it's not prevelant in our day to day life ???

And u missed the whole point of my analogy. Despite blacks going to school, and graduating, interacting with whites in a freindly manner

we still are not equal, and will never b, so how can race relations improve without equality?

I guess goofy rappers will...

I don't deal with racism every day. I know it exist in parts of our society. I also feel we are closer than ever and that's progress
 
Say What;7683692 said:
D0wn;7683648 said:
Say What;7683542 said:
D0wn;7683510 said:
Say What;7683433 said:
D0wn;7683412 said:
jono;7683338 said:
The video is more profound that I thought it would be. Talking about the impact of hip-hop on race relations and saying that it brings people together and makes racism more difficult..it's a very good premise and I respect that statement.

I think we see a lot of how hip-hop has stitched race relations and we also see the consequence of it.

Can u please give me a detail explanation, of how hiphop is fixing race relations?

Hiphop is on a long list of music cultures that blacks created, and other ppl love n eventually take. Jazz was the biggest genre at one point, so was Rock, and so was Soul music and motown.

Did those other genres fix race relations??

Do people coming together to root for Lebron or Cam Newton also fix race relations?

Fix never but improve. Ray Charles and other artist boycotting the south until they integrated helped. It won't reach everyone but many of the white Motown fans are cool with Black people

During slavery, Many white ppl were cool with Blk PpL also.

So that's what it boils down to,

Having some white ppl liking niggas?

Black students, attending and graduating college is, at an all time high. yet, 68% of new African american college graduates,are either unemployed or under employed.

But hey, on my way to work today. i sat next to a white girl, on the train. she was listening to rap just like me.

Strangely, She turned to me and smiled, and asked if i love Kanye, i smiled back and a conversation ensues.

come to find out, we went to the same school,and graduated with the same degree. She works at a firm , me at a McDonalds.

But hey #GoodRaceRelations. I doubt me, and her would of talked in the 50's.

I took Jay to mean day to day racism. Systematic racism still exist and will take a while to fall. I'm sure we have it better one than previous era's. It will only continue. Blame yourself for working at McDonald's. She might of had some hookups but you made your own luck if you have the same degree and work at McDonald's

so we both agree, systematic racism exist , and is prevalent in our society.

Since its prevlant in our society, you're telling me it's not prevelant in our day to day life ???

And u missed the whole point of my analogy. Despite blacks going to school, and graduating, interacting with whites in a freindly manner

we still are not equal, and will never b, so how can race relations improve without equality?

I guess goofy rappers will...

I don't deal with racism every day. I know it exist in parts of our society. I also feel we are closer than ever and that's progress

Why the wealth gap is widening? Also what's closer, people being able to fuck without getting lynched?
 
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Say What;7683692 said:
D0wn;7683648 said:
Say What;7683542 said:
D0wn;7683510 said:
Say What;7683433 said:
D0wn;7683412 said:
jono;7683338 said:
The video is more profound that I thought it would be. Talking about the impact of hip-hop on race relations and saying that it brings people together and makes racism more difficult..it's a very good premise and I respect that statement.

I think we see a lot of how hip-hop has stitched race relations and we also see the consequence of it.

Can u please give me a detail explanation, of how hiphop is fixing race relations?

Hiphop is on a long list of music cultures that blacks created, and other ppl love n eventually take. Jazz was the biggest genre at one point, so was Rock, and so was Soul music and motown.

Did those other genres fix race relations??

Do people coming together to root for Lebron or Cam Newton also fix race relations?

Fix never but improve. Ray Charles and other artist boycotting the south until they integrated helped. It won't reach everyone but many of the white Motown fans are cool with Black people

During slavery, Many white ppl were cool with Blk PpL also.

So that's what it boils down to,

Having some white ppl liking niggas?

Black students, attending and graduating college is, at an all time high. yet, 68% of new African american college graduates,are either unemployed or under employed.

But hey, on my way to work today. i sat next to a white girl, on the train. she was listening to rap just like me.

Strangely, She turned to me and smiled, and asked if i love Kanye, i smiled back and a conversation ensues.

come to find out, we went to the same school,and graduated with the same degree. She works at a firm , me at a McDonalds.

But hey #GoodRaceRelations. I doubt me, and her would of talked in the 50's.

I took Jay to mean day to day racism. Systematic racism still exist and will take a while to fall. I'm sure we have it better one than previous era's. It will only continue. Blame yourself for working at McDonald's. She might of had some hookups but you made your own luck if you have the same degree and work at McDonald's

so we both agree, systematic racism exist , and is prevalent in our society.

Since its prevlant in our society, you're telling me it's not prevelant in our day to day life ???

And u missed the whole point of my analogy. Despite blacks going to school, and graduating, interacting with whites in a freindly manner

we still are not equal, and will never b, so how can race relations improve without equality?

I guess goofy rappers will...

I don't deal with racism every day. I know it exist in parts of our society. I also feel we are closer than ever and that's progress

What is your personal definition of racism??
 
hiphop12345;7683703 said:
Say What;7683692 said:
D0wn;7683648 said:
Say What;7683542 said:
D0wn;7683510 said:
Say What;7683433 said:
D0wn;7683412 said:
jono;7683338 said:
The video is more profound that I thought it would be. Talking about the impact of hip-hop on race relations and saying that it brings people together and makes racism more difficult..it's a very good premise and I respect that statement.

I think we see a lot of how hip-hop has stitched race relations and we also see the consequence of it.

Can u please give me a detail explanation, of how hiphop is fixing race relations?

Hiphop is on a long list of music cultures that blacks created, and other ppl love n eventually take. Jazz was the biggest genre at one point, so was Rock, and so was Soul music and motown.

Did those other genres fix race relations??

Do people coming together to root for Lebron or Cam Newton also fix race relations?

Fix never but improve. Ray Charles and other artist boycotting the south until they integrated helped. It won't reach everyone but many of the white Motown fans are cool with Black people

During slavery, Many white ppl were cool with Blk PpL also.

So that's what it boils down to,

Having some white ppl liking niggas?

Black students, attending and graduating college is, at an all time high. yet, 68% of new African american college graduates,are either unemployed or under employed.

But hey, on my way to work today. i sat next to a white girl, on the train. she was listening to rap just like me.

Strangely, She turned to me and smiled, and asked if i love Kanye, i smiled back and a conversation ensues.

come to find out, we went to the same school,and graduated with the same degree. She works at a firm , me at a McDonalds.

But hey #GoodRaceRelations. I doubt me, and her would of talked in the 50's.

I took Jay to mean day to day racism. Systematic racism still exist and will take a while to fall. I'm sure we have it better one than previous era's. It will only continue. Blame yourself for working at McDonald's. She might of had some hookups but you made your own luck if you have the same degree and work at McDonald's

so we both agree, systematic racism exist , and is prevalent in our society.

Since its prevlant in our society, you're telling me it's not prevelant in our day to day life ???

And u missed the whole point of my analogy. Despite blacks going to school, and graduating, interacting with whites in a freindly manner

we still are not equal, and will never b, so how can race relations improve without equality?

I guess goofy rappers will...

I don't deal with racism every day. I know it exist in parts of our society. I also feel we are closer than ever and that's progress

Why the wealth gap is widening? Also what's closer, people being able to fuck without getting lynched?

Wealth in that sense has no color. The owners of Wal-Mart don't care about poor white people. They are out for self. Same thing with Oprah and Jordan.

Yeah that is progress. Also that you can decide to go to an HBCU instead of that being your only option.
 
hiphop12345;7683682 said:
jono;7683577 said:
D0wn;7683537 said:
jono;7683470 said:
D0wn;7683412 said:
jono;7683338 said:
The video is more profound that I thought it would be. Talking about the impact of hip-hop on race relations and saying that it brings people together and makes racism more difficult..it's a very good premise and I respect that statement.

I think we see a lot of how hip-hop has stitched race relations and we also see the consequence of it.

Can u please give me a detail explanation, of how hiphop is fixing race relations?

Hiphop is on a long list of music cultures that blacks created, and other ppl love n eventually take. Jazz was the biggest genre at one point, so was Rock, and so was Soul music and motown.

Did those other genres fix race relations??

Do people coming together to root for Lebron or Cam Newton also fix race relations?

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Say What;7683433 said:
D0wn;7683412 said:
jono;7683338 said:
The video is more profound that I thought it would be. Talking about the impact of hip-hop on race relations and saying that it brings people together and makes racism more difficult..it's a very good premise and I respect that statement.

I think we see a lot of how hip-hop has stitched race relations and we also see the consequence of it.

Can u please give me a detail explanation, of how hiphop is fixing race relations?

Hiphop is on a long list of music cultures that blacks created, and other ppl love n eventually take. Jazz was the biggest genre at one point, so was Rock, and so was Soul music and motown.

Did those other genres fix race relations??

Do people coming together to root for Lebron or Cam Newton also fix race relations?

Fix never but improve. Ray Charles and other artist boycotting the south until they integrated helped. It won't reach everyone but many of the white Motown fans are cool with Black people

That's what niggas don't get. No such thing as a silver bullet on societal issues.

The only way to IMPROVE race relations, is by IMPROVING your economy...

No goofy as music will IMPROVE a damn thing.

If more respectable genres such as Jazz, Blues, Rock, Funk,Reggae etc. Did not improve race relations.
a senior on stage, rapping about drugs he sold 30 years ago will???

Most rappers are minstrel performers.

Blk ppl being economically independent and self sufficient, is how race relations will improve.

Except your wrong and they have. Bob Marley brought people of all races and nationalities together, so did Duke Ellington, Ray Charles, Stevie Wonder, The Temptations, Michael Jackson, Tupac, Kanye, Beyoncé, Jay-Z, and even the Wu-Tang Clan these are well known Black acts that have the power to branch across race or nationality, hell some of them have more white fans than black ones.

You have been disproven but you can continue to rant and rave on the subject all day if you want. Again, there's no silver bullets and nobody claimed that hip-hop is one, but to say that it doesn't help is a lie, a flat lie.

To say race relations in the United States is the same today as it was in Ellington's time or the heyday of The Temptations is also a lie and music has helped tremendously with that.

Why the Japanese didn't need some of the greatest musicians of all time? Where's the Persian Bob Marley, the Armenian Duke Ellington? How many Black people still can't get into a club while Hip Hop music is being played?


What the hell are you talking about, what clubs are Black people denied in despite hip-hop Being played?

Now music can bring people together but what does that do? Most of Latin America music was created by Black people yet when you think of Latin America you don't even think of Black people so how did the music save Black Latino's? You don't think the cop who murdered Eric didn't grow up on some Jigga what, Jigga who?

You scatterbrained bruh. Pick a topic and discuss it. All this issue mixing is irrelevant and you can't prove that the dude responsible for Garner's death is racist or that he listens to hip-hop as if that matters.

You reaching.

L. Americans have their own issues and once again you seem to think music or any one thing is going to change the entire world, which niggas have said a multitude of times THERE ARE NO SILVER BULLETS, shit will NEVER be perfect. But once again, music definitely brings people together an you simply can't deny it.

What does Eric Garner have to do with this? How do you prove the bolded statement? You can't even prove that dude was racist let alone what his musical tastes are. Cut that shit out

Y'all niggas have no argument.

 
It's a generational thing imo. I think younger people for the most part don't see race like how our parents and grandparents saw it. Hiphop is one of the reason why along with the internet and the world being smaller now thanks to technology.
 
D0wn;7683718 said:
Say What;7683692 said:
D0wn;7683648 said:
Say What;7683542 said:
D0wn;7683510 said:
Say What;7683433 said:
D0wn;7683412 said:
jono;7683338 said:
The video is more profound that I thought it would be. Talking about the impact of hip-hop on race relations and saying that it brings people together and makes racism more difficult..it's a very good premise and I respect that statement.

I think we see a lot of how hip-hop has stitched race relations and we also see the consequence of it.

Can u please give me a detail explanation, of how hiphop is fixing race relations?

Hiphop is on a long list of music cultures that blacks created, and other ppl love n eventually take. Jazz was the biggest genre at one point, so was Rock, and so was Soul music and motown.

Did those other genres fix race relations??

Do people coming together to root for Lebron or Cam Newton also fix race relations?

Fix never but improve. Ray Charles and other artist boycotting the south until they integrated helped. It won't reach everyone but many of the white Motown fans are cool with Black people

During slavery, Many white ppl were cool with Blk PpL also.

So that's what it boils down to,

Having some white ppl liking niggas?

Black students, attending and graduating college is, at an all time high. yet, 68% of new African american college graduates,are either unemployed or under employed.

But hey, on my way to work today. i sat next to a white girl, on the train. she was listening to rap just like me.

Strangely, She turned to me and smiled, and asked if i love Kanye, i smiled back and a conversation ensues.

come to find out, we went to the same school,and graduated with the same degree. She works at a firm , me at a McDonalds.

But hey #GoodRaceRelations. I doubt me, and her would of talked in the 50's.

I took Jay to mean day to day racism. Systematic racism still exist and will take a while to fall. I'm sure we have it better one than previous era's. It will only continue. Blame yourself for working at McDonald's. She might of had some hookups but you made your own luck if you have the same degree and work at McDonald's

so we both agree, systematic racism exist , and is prevalent in our society.

Since its prevlant in our society, you're telling me it's not prevelant in our day to day life ???

And u missed the whole point of my analogy. Despite blacks going to school, and graduating, interacting with whites in a freindly manner

we still are not equal, and will never b, so how can race relations improve without equality?

I guess goofy rappers will...

I don't deal with racism every day. I know it exist in parts of our society. I also feel we are closer than ever and that's progress

What is your personal definition of racism??

I can describe it in the simplist way as

treating others inferior based on race.
 
Save the "We are the world" same shit for people who don't read and know that we have been fucked and continue to get fucked in amerKKKa
 
Reading some of the comments from people who want to be Revolutionary but only gripe when it suits there agenda. If you don't want improved Race relations with others outside of our Race, then take your so called bad ass out in the neighborhood and stop US from US, (Drugs, Rape, Robbery, Murder, Etc) You see I know Black Revolutionaries & Separatist, and since they feel they have no need of other Races (White Etc..) they make sure all is well in their immediate Community. It's not as prevalent in all hoods as it should be, but it happens.

 
I agree.Before the slave trade there was no such thing as black and white ppl.It was when some Europeans found out they could rule the world by making skin color an issue and make money off the free labor of the most talented ppl they had ever seen they created racism.The concept of black and white.

Then those high ranking Europeans were able to make black ppl seem less human to the whole world,who benefited from slavery to make it seem not as bad.

Racism was created to benefit the high ranking Europeans/Americans.

Hip Hop has changed a lot of things,some great,some terrible.

 
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Jay is entitled to his opinion. However, being able to party, and sing along to songs about drugs, sex, and murder in integrated clubs means absolutely nothing in regards to where America or the world is on race relations.

I always find it interesting that it's Blacks that have to be like everyone else. Blacks have to have this we are the fucking world, diversity initiative happening. I don't see this with any other race in America. Any city you go to there is a China Town, Little Italy, Jew town etc etc. I don't see any other race wanting to embrace anything Black without wanting to change it, profit from it or just flat out steal it and claim it as theirs.

 
Some people here are exaggerating Jay Z's point. All he's saying is that people are more alike than they are different and Hip Hop exposes that commonality.

Ultimately, it's what you do after the music stops that shows where you are mentally. If you dance and party with blacks to black music but all the while think of them as criminals or xyz negative stereotype, that makes your mindstate different, not your reality.
 
Point is, he really has no point. There is nothing wrong with us Blacks or any other ethnicity being different from one another. So, instead of trying to bend over backwards to confirm to some BS one world race\ideology, we should be just fine respecting each others differences and contributions.

Jay's and other Blacks ridiculous thinking has led others to now proclaim Hip Hop aint Black Music, wasn't created by Blacks and other silly inaccuracies. It's quite frustrating that people just cannot enjoy Black creations and contributions without trying to Hijack the shit for anything other then discrediting Blacks.
 
usmarin3;7683886 said:
It's a generational thing imo. I think younger people for the most part don't see race like how our parents and grandparents saw it. Hiphop is one of the reason why along with the internet and the world being smaller now thanks to technology.

And thats a problem..

The Cavalier attitude the disconnect the difference in attitudes is not progress because "We came so far" they have been desensitized and world view is smaller.
 
What i dont get is why do white people get off on black ppl speaking like this...when they make it very clear through their actions and inactions that they dont even believe this type of shit
 
people are really running with stuff on this one. dude never said anything about being accepted by anyone else or that hip hop is not black music. its more like hip hop is black music that has gone global and although the older generation can teach their kids hate its real hard to do when their idol is a black rapper. the conversation he is talking about is way bigger than who is ur favorite rapper.

he calls it the biggest cultural icon...that right there means he is saying it represents black people/culture and if u compare hip hop to any other cultural icon from any other race then hip hop has done more.

its not some shit like lets all hug and sing kumbaya.
 

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