Jay-Z - Magna Carta...Holy Grail (Review)

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Beach Is Better → This should have been longer. He sounded like he was about to go in. Another braggadocios track but he could have tried to bring it to the level of PSA. The song will piss you off because it’s like eating a cookie after you’ve been starving all day and watching a steak get thrown in the garbage with no more food in sight.

BBC → Jay sounds like a mix between That’s My Bitch from WTT and some BP2 shit (toned down though, he was off beat for part of it). Nas came alright. Jay had the better verse although I can admit that Nas verse has grown on me. At first I was like Nas wasn’t even trying but he actually got jazzy for the beat. He kept it old school and the lines resonated with me. He comes into Jay’s realm with all the European references that he also enjoys but maintained his identity talking about “Bucket hats, EPMD casettes” and pyramids in Giza. The shit is just fun. It’ll have you moving. I already have a video in my head for the song. This is a block party anthem celebrating the loose theme of the album with the juxtaposition of European high culture with black hood shit.

JAY-Z Blue → I like the beat and how he used the Big sample. The song ain’t bad but it just fails to really connect with the listener honestly. It’s been some years since Jay has made a good personal song and this was a failed attempt.

La Familia → Let’s be honest, the subliminal diss shit is stupid. As a diss record, this shit is in the running for wackiness with that Dig A Hole bullshit. Jay’s bars was bullshit, but the beat kinda rides a lil bit. This could be a Young Scooter song though. Unimpressive.

Nickels and Dimes → Harry Belafonte response. His flow is actually better but he’s pretty much defending his socially irresponsible behavior. He always does this. I won’t even get into the disrespect displayed. Don’t really dig the production. Not as bad as Forever Young but a wack way to end the album.

The album was sequenced well but it’s clear that Jay has fallen off and he’ll never return the way true fans know and love him. His flow has literally deteriorated and he doesn’t even try to construct a bar structured chorus on one song on this album. Lyrically, his redundancy is exposing that he was never as nice as people like to believe. There was not one point he spazzed out on this entire album. The most he could string together was maybe 6 epic bars consecutively. No face scrunching bars, no amazing silencers. Shining moments were few and far between. The album isn’t wack but it’s a far cry from the rapper who is widely hailed as the GOAT. When you’re held to a higher standard you will be criticized the same. It’s crazy, for the first time in my life I have to say my favorite part about Jay’s album is that it makes my trunk slap. Simply, Jay isn’t doing anything at this point that many of his peers can’t do. He is no longer above the competition and hasn’t been for a while.

I applaud Jay for attempting to be more animated and creative in certain aspects. I’m not even mad at him for this album. On first listen, it sounded like the same superficial rubbish we have grown accustomed to but has reached unmatched annoying levels over recent years. Yes, “sometimes I brag like Hov” was exemplified by this body of work. But I have come to the realization and grown at peace with the fact that he’s not an innate deep or brilliant musician. He will never be socially conscious (which is nonchalantly looked at as lame in hip hop) artist. But I gotta give him credit for making an effort to touch on issues that were conflicting and true to him. It’s not his fault that his lack of creativity prevents him from going in depth on anything other than his wealth. No matter how you cut it, he’s a very talented rapper with an ear for production, a grasp on what’s currently hot always, a great team and ability to appeal across generations. So while it’s easy to dislike him based on his many character flaws and his mindless fans who overhype anything he does, it’s best to just take it for what it’s worth…..Alright.
 
coo ass review man

soo. out of 5, what would you give it overall and replay value?

I'm only asking cuz I haven't even listened to it yet
 
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I don't think it would be fair for me to rate it yet. It's too fresh. But I mean I haven't taken it out my car in over a week.

But I recommend you at least check it out. I didn't go into detail about the topics and content of the middle of the album but I can say it was filled with a fair amount of substance especially for Jay standards.
 
buttuh_b;6061820 said:
The album was sequenced well but it’s clear that Jay has fallen off and he’ll never return the way true fans know and love him. His flow has literally deteriorated and he doesn’t even try to construct a bar structured chorus on one song on this album. Lyrically, his redundancy is exposing that he was never as nice as people like to believe. There was not one point he spazzed out on this entire album. The most he could string together was maybe 6 epic bars consecutively. No face scrunching bars, no amazing silencers. Shining moments were few and far between. The album isn’t wack but it’s a far cry from the rapper who is widely hailed as the GOAT. When you’re held to a higher standard you will be criticized the same. It’s crazy, for the first time in my life I have to say my favorite part about Jay’s album is that it makes my trunk slap. Simply, Jay isn’t doing anything at this point that many of his peers can’t do. He is no longer above the competition and hasn’t been for a while.

I applaud Jay for attempting to be more animated and creative in certain aspects. I’m not even mad at him for this album. On first listen, it sounded like the same superficial rubbish we have grown accustomed to but has reached unmatched annoying levels over recent years. Yes, “sometimes I brag like Hov” was exemplified by this body of work. But I have come to the realization and grown at peace with the fact that he’s not an innate deep or brilliant musician. He will never be socially conscious (which is nonchalantly looked at as lame in hip hop) artist. But I gotta give him credit for making an effort to touch on issues that were conflicting and true to him. It’s not his fault that his lack of creativity prevents him from going in depth on anything other than his wealth. No matter how you cut it, he’s a very talented rapper with an ear for production, a grasp on what’s currently hot always, a great team and ability to appeal across generations. So while it’s easy to dislike him based on his many character flaws and his mindless fans who overhype anything he does, it’s best to just take it for what it’s worth…..Alright.

ETHER

Brilliant review all the same . ..
 
I have no idea how people can say this album is lyrically weak. The second verse of Holy Grail is GREAT...the way he talks about his relationship with fame in a mature and candid manner is a nice breath of fresh air from all the celebrities who moan about how Hollywood has ruined their lives. Instead of ranting about all the pitfalls of fame, he actually embraces it and acknowledges that it's a HELL of a lot better than his past life. Celebrities often sound whiny when they bitch about their fame (see Eminem on The Way I Am)...this was a much better approach.

I can also tell you misread the intentions of Picasso Baby. If you honestly believe it was just a mere laundry list of all the paintings he owns, you're misreading the music. The song is about limitless ambition and never being content with what you have. It's about always wanting more...the last line of the second verse is also quite telling. Even though he's interested in all this art, he's a family man first. How can you say he's not saying anything in the last verse?

Tom Ford is a party track, it doesn't need profound lyricism...and it seems you acknowledged that. Although Jay's 140 characters line >>> *

I have no idea how you can say Jay did nothing memorable on Crown. That second verse is classic Jay.

"bulletproof love, niggas down since the yolk"..."wasn't for the caine, wouldn't be able"..."you already know what I can do with the coke. made it disappear, made it reappear, I had that bitch on the ropes!"

I'm not gonna go through everything, but Jay was lyrically good to great on this album. I won't say he brought his A game, cause he didn't...but it sure as fuck wasn't 'weak' either. Jay DID bring his A game on Watch The Throne though, so I can understand if people are a bit disappointed.

 
You're entitled to your opinion. Yea, on Holy Grail I know he was talking about the pros and cons of fame. I just didn't like the way he was rapping and I wasn't impressed lyrically. Plus the beat and hook were weak to me.

As for Picasso Baby, all you're telling me is he's aspiring to acquire more material shit. Where did he talk about family in the song? For the second half when I say he wasn't saying anything I meant lyrically it wasn't potent.

I'm sure I'll rock with Tom Ford when I'm out but he seems to be trying to hard to fit in with 20 somethings.

Crown still ain't memorable. That Caine Abel line sounded like some Pusha T shit. More 88 talk. Ja and 50 bodied that sample more.

Jay was lyrically good to great for Jay standards?? Either the lyrics or flow was the most underwhelming part of the album for me.
 
buttuh_b;6063037 said:
You're entitled to your opinion. Yea, on Holy Grail I know he was talking about the pros and cons of fame. I just didn't like the way he was rapping and I wasn't impressed lyrically. Plus the beat and hook were weak to me.

As for Picasso Baby, all you're telling me is he's aspiring to acquire more material shit. Where did he talk about family in the song? For the second half when I say he wasn't saying anything I meant lyrically it wasn't potent.

I'm sure I'll rock with Tom Ford when I'm out but he seems to be trying to hard to fit in with 20 somethings.

Crown still ain't memorable. That Caine Abel line sounded like some Pusha T shit. More 88 talk. Ja and 50 bodied that sample more.

Jay was lyrically good to great for Jay standards?? Either the lyrics or flow was the most underwhelming part of the album for me.

 
Soprano27;6063258 said:
buttuh_b;6063037 said:
You're entitled to your opinion. Yea, on Holy Grail I know he was talking about the pros and cons of fame. I just didn't like the way he was rapping and I wasn't impressed lyrically. Plus the beat and hook were weak to me.

As for Picasso Baby, all you're telling me is he's aspiring to acquire more material shit. Where did he talk about family in the song? For the second half when I say he wasn't saying anything I meant lyrically it wasn't potent.

I'm sure I'll rock with Tom Ford when I'm out but he seems to be trying to hard to fit in with 20 somethings.

Crown still ain't memorable. That Caine Abel line sounded like some Pusha T shit. More 88 talk. Ja and 50 bodied that sample more.

Jay was lyrically good to great for Jay standards?? Either the lyrics or flow was the most underwhelming part of the album for me.

ugh, my response got deleted. I'll write it back later, gotta go.
 
buttuh_b;6063037 said:
You're entitled to your opinion. Yea, on Holy Grail I know he was talking about the pros and cons of fame. I just didn't like the way he was rapping and I wasn't impressed lyrically. Plus the beat and hook were weak to me.

As for Picasso Baby, all you're telling me is he's aspiring to acquire more material shit. Where did he talk about family in the song? For the second half when I say he wasn't saying anything I meant lyrically it wasn't potent.

I'm sure I'll rock with Tom Ford when I'm out but he seems to be trying to hard to fit in with 20 somethings.

Crown still ain't memorable. That Caine Abel line sounded like some Pusha T shit. More 88 talk. Ja and 50 bodied that sample more.

Jay was lyrically good to great for Jay standards?? Either the lyrics or flow was the most underwhelming part of the album for me.

No, Picasso Baby conveys the IDEA that he always wants more and his aspirations are limitless. To claim he's only saying 'I want more paintings' is a grossly literal interpretation of the song. When he tells his baby to lean on all the possessions he was just boasting about, he's really saying those possessions are not THAT important to him, and that he's a family man above everything else.

Have no idea how anyone can say Jay didn't kill the second verse of Crown. The yoke/yolk line, the abel/cain line, having coke 'on the ropes' line...it's classic Jay. I don't even need to listen to the 50 Cent version to know Jay killed it better. Jay on his worst day > 50 Cent at his best.

What about Nickels and Dimes where he says he feels survivor's guilt? How about when he questions his motivation for giving out charity? What about Oceans where he's basically saying his past accompanies him wherever he goes? The picking cotton line is brilliant. What about Jay-Z Blue where he admits to being afraid of raising a child? What about Heaven where he talks about his theological beliefs (or disbeliefs)? Jay has ALWAYS been the guy to blend bravado with introspection...this album is no different.

Yes, I think it's good/great lyrically. Blueprint 3 was weak for Jay standards...but not this.
 
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Yeah where is the "Chief Keef flow" on Crown?...sounds like he rode the beat in normal Jay double time form.
 
I actually bought this album first Jay album I bought since Kingdom Come (and I sold that shit back) for some money. I was surprised he put together a decent album if he would have gotten rid of Heaven, Crown, La Familia, & Tom Ford or found other tracks that fit the flow of the album he would of had creep up on a classic again.
 
I ripped this album from youtube. I dont know none of the titles and only listen to it when i be workin out. i did the same with kanye's album. Personally, i like the bitch boy from the chi's album better. he's an asshole in real life, but his music, he always comes correct. Jay's album was nice because it was better than the blueprint 2 and vol 3. if he can top those two albums, its always gonna be a solid jigga album.

and thats how u do a review. motherfuckers. lol.
 
Dave2one6;6070893 said:
I ripped this album from youtube. I dont know none of the titles and only listen to it when i be workin out. i did the same with kanye's album. Personally, i like the bitch boy from the chi's album better. he's an asshole in real life, but his music, he always comes correct. Jay's album was nice because it was better than the blueprint 2 and vol 3. if he can top those two albums, its always gonna be a solid jigga album.

and thats how u do a review. motherfuckers. lol.

Don't quit your day job
 
Trockm;6080332 said:
Don't really fuck with Jay anymore but, I have to say I like this album better than his last

ayee this album is a certified classic compared to his last solo effort

 
CracceR;6084713 said:
Trockm;6080332 said:
Don't really fuck with Jay anymore but, I have to say I like this album better than his last

ayee this album is a certified classic compared to his last solo effort

I'll have to keep listening, I can't just call something a classic just like that
 
Trockm;6086894 said:
CracceR;6084713 said:
Trockm;6080332 said:
Don't really fuck with Jay anymore but, I have to say I like this album better than his last

ayee this album is a certified classic compared to his last solo effort

I'll have to keep listening, I can't just call something a classic just like that

i said classic compared to his last solo effort, becos bp3 was wacc as fucc

 
I did a full album review on my YouTube channel but I would go back if I could and add to it because MAN, every listen this album gets better!
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I did a full album review on my YouTube channel but I would go back if I could and add to it because MAN, every listen this album gets better!
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