Jay-Z is on some Uncle Tom sh*t

[UPTOWN]

i'll listen to the nigga who raps about what they really live over the fabricated shit.

You mean like how Jay was rappin' about a wealthy-mob lifestyle that he never lived from the day he came out?

LOL this board is fucking incredible man LOL

 

[UPTOWN]

How do you claim to have been listening to Jayz since 96 and his lyrics are just NOW bothering you? When Nas works with white people to do his album covers or drops a It was Written (italian mafia "white people" dickriding) or when Joey badass calls himself Sinatra no one says anything etc etc

How do you claim to have been listening to Jayz since 96 and his lyrics are just NOW bothering you? When Nas works with white people to do his album covers or drops a It was Written (italian mafia "white people" dickriding) or when Joey badass calls himself Sinatra no one says anything etc etc

this post will get ignored by those with agendas

nas recieved all kinds of hell for that escobar persona. he even made a song about it LOL have you ever heard "the rise and fall" ??

"Lessons from heaven

Every night I slept with my weapon to guard my family for a minute

I forgot my profession, not from Columbia or Nicaragua

Don't distribute coke from Antigua, that shipped out to Panama

Pablo Escobar's bloody reign came to an end

Far from my life; a kid who made his fame from a pen

Hit the studio and change the game again

Wrote down all the pain within, top of the charts

Triple platinum, got the fake love back, money stacks, more plaques

had to see who I was, Just to know where I was at

Saw both sides of the game, all the ups and downs

This goes out to the future rap kings coming up now"

this is nas admitting that that whole esco shit got outta hand

now has jay z ever had an egyptian pharoah as his album cover

how about lashes from a whip on a slaves back??

how about a scolding to the whole hip hop community about how we need to step it up cause the art is dying (hip hop is dead)

i mean shit even on black republicans nas was the black militant taking over the govt.

nigga shit what else do you want?? LOL

 

[nex gin]

I want Jay to acknowledge his roots and give some love to black culture, I am not here trying to tear him down, but I am genuinely disappointed in the direction he is going in, he is better than this. It pains me to see another black man seemingly have a inferiority complex.

lmao this shit cracks me the fuck up. when does a white artist have to acknowledge their whiteness and their white culture. when does a white artist pretty much have to be burdened with pretty much being a perfect white example for white peoples kids without being human. whenever a white person gets successful when do white folks start questioning their race.

some black folk have unrealistic expectations for black super stars once they "made it". They want black artists to be "real" but as soon as they have a more diverse subject matter they all of a sudden white. what you want jay to lie and talk about shit he don't live like 90% of rappers out here. Do you want jay to not say he actually does pop mollys and doesn't buy tom ford clothing?

If anyone thinks Jay is lost touch with where hes from you have to be a clear troll. He rapped about a subject in 2011 that nobody hardly touched in mainstream hip hop and thats black on black murder in chicago. But i guess jay is an uncle tom because he actually kept his relationship with beyonce out of the media spotlight. I guess hes a house negro because he actually showed people a black superstar can have a kid after marriage and plan for that kid. The T/S is trying way too hard to be on his Ge757 or hrap outchea.

Thread should have ended here. "Crab in a Barrel Mentality....Holding nigguhs back since 1450 4ever".

 

[twatgetta]

Jay Z's Coonin' is legendary but you niggaz are too sensitive over rap lyrics these days. Go fuck Emmitt Till's corpse.

 

[lamontbdc]

nigga shouted out Wayne Perry on the 3rd track and folks still saying this bullshit...niggas not really listening

 

[CJ]

Cadillac really nigga

 

[NoCompetition]

This just one person's opinion. Doesnt make it true or even worth consideration. Anybody could say anybody is an "uncle Tom". Not the type of thing i generally take seriously. But provocative enough to do numbers. While easy to see through.

 

[A1000MILES]

The majority of his subject matter after "AG"?...Nigga, so you mad cause 3 outta 15 albums felt too "euro-centric"...3 albums he's made during the process of truly becoming a mogul...A bit of a political figure even...Personally, I feel he shoulda been stopped puttin out albums...But if it's still in him, let that nigga rock, shit...You don't gotta listen to it...And if you do, understand that the subject matter will most likely be relative to his place in life right now...It might get redundant, but you either gon fuck with the songs or not...And if not, at least know why you not fuckin wit it...Don't try to paint him as a heartless coon when on this album in particular he sayin a lotta stuff that ambitious young blacks can feel...Just say, "I ain't fuckin wit his image now"..."He coulda got on better beats"..."His flow sounded lazy"..."The song ideas were contrived"..All these arguments have more validity than "Jay Z on some Uncle Tom shit"...And far as Belafonte, Jay a grown ass man who obviously felt offended that another black legend was condemning him without een really knowing his heart or intentions...I give a fuck if he called him "boy"...They both coulda kept all that shit behind the scenes...But niggas love to hang eachother in the square though...

 

[DR. JEK]

In my opinion, that's just Jay paying homage to BIG! The way he used big's vocals on Blue wasn't like he was biting, it was almost like a collaboration. It was very artistic! It wasn't just lyrics.

It was almost like "damn my dude, I just had a daughter too and I feel what you were saying now".

At least that's how I took it.

naw he used a Biggie line on another song on the album too... also I feel like he using Big shit for himself... these youngins dont know Biggies records... Im 31 and Biggie died when I was in 10th grade. Jay smart. the whole biggin up my brother shit been played and he straight up is biting and using a dead mans lyrics and ideas in is own projects.

Do you think its because he's unable to come up with his own stuff? Or was the line just that hot to the point where he wants to be seen as the author? What about when Kanye quoted Ghostface on the New God Flow hook or the Ghostface line in Good Life, or J. Cole quoting Jay from Imaginary Player's "Uck Nice Watch" for the hook.....do you think the young folks know about Ghostface and Jay records from the 90's? Were they being smart about it? There's hundreds of other example I can think of with contemporary artist quoting famous 90's rap lines that younger artist wouldn't know about. Not coming at you, I just don't understand the logic behind the thought process.

im a huge Big fan.. and it irks me... I think a lack of creativity.... If Big wasnt dead he wouldnt have his shit in all his songs.... I was able to look past it after a couple albums but he keep doing it....

Fair enough, I can see how it would be annoying to some listeners. But I also personally feel as though it was never an issue until Nas called him out on Ether. Never once heard anyone say anything about it prior to Dec 4th 2001 lol. I see it as a good thing though. In a way, he keeps the checks coming in to Big's family by keeping his name hot. Jay big's up everything that's Brooklyn (Big, Basquiat, Marcy, Spike Lee, Kane) a lot so I kind of see it from that aspect too. By all accounts, they say Biggie is the only rapper that Jay truly respected artistically, and fucked with on a birds of a feather type of thing, so maybe he really is bigging him up out of respect. He doesn't have to do it, tbh.

hold up, thts where you're wrong, I know plenty of people thatwas talkn about that shit before that. It was It was only amplified to the main steam masses when Ether came out Thats why Ether disswise was so effective, because Nas said what ws already on the average. rap fans subconscious. mind when it came to it. And to make matters worse and make the. Nas bars have a permanent. sting the nigga. STILL. aint stop doin it! He able to stop doin other shit when it gets embarrassing. like deal with old friends, why can he let his own friend rest in peace? Its like how cris brown using Aalihyaa's vocals for that stupid video of his, after a while you just mesin people memory. up if you dont leave they shit alone and keep leechin

 

[DR. JEK]

^ ^sorry about all the periods in the wrong place up there. the damn smart phone doin dumb shit with the cursor

 

[DR. JEK]

The nigga Big is a legend off 2 albums!!!! does Jay really need to use bigs lyrics to keep his catalog and name alive? Why not just start a charity in Brooklyn or his his son off with a trust fund or something. Maybe people that are new fans to hip hop that never got to hear biggie really will think these Big lines is Jays have yall ever thought about that? Us fans that been in hip hop will either know hes dickriding or will stick to the big up his brotha story but the new new ones aint gonna know the dif unless an older head explains some lines to them via rap history lesson

 

[xxCivicxx]

God damn Jay-Z has a lot of you niggas hypnotized...

And this is coming from a dude that was born in Brooklyn and lived through his Reasonable Doubt/Vol. 1 hype. Jay-Z is a now a pop artist just like Lil' Wayne. Niggas didn't push MCHG to platinum, it was white people. Jay-Z knows very well the musical sounds that are popular to the current black youth, he has the world's top producers at his disposal yet he chose the type of beats that most niggas aren't even gonna give more than a 10 second listen to before deciding they're wack. Part of Jay-Z's legend are the legendary soul beats that Kanye and NoID and to a lesser degree Timbaland used to make for him. What does it matter that he's dropping this or that famous black person in a song if black people aren't listening to it? How is that educational? Does he think that white people wanna hear about information that they've been suppressing for centuries?

The fact of the matter is that if Jay-Z really were doing things for the black community then he would have run into resistance from the system again by now, because that's how the system works. Notice how he was catching drama left and right when he was younger, but he's good now, yet niggas like Nas Prodigy DMX Ja Rule Nelly etc and now 50 cent(another coon) still catch cases every once in a while for random shit. Same with Diddy. Jay-Z and Beyonce are 2 people who clearly think that they are above the race of people that birthed them. They dip back into black shit when they want a bump in sales or attention, but by and large the don't do a single noticeably significant thing for the black community as a whole. Jay-Z is one of the few black artists on this globe that could actually start a black owned black run entertainment distribution company(the same thing that MJ was murdered for trying to do) but I've never even seen him speak on that idea because he knows how dangerous that idea would be to his white overlords. I do wanna believe that Jay-Z cares about black people, I really do. But he was cocky as fuck and arrogant back in the day before he reached this point in his career, I can only imagine what level of "my shit don't stink"ness he's at by now

Sorry for the titangraph

 

[StillFaggyAF]

You aint a real black man unless you catch cases or rap over trap beats

 

[xxCivicxx]

You aint a real black man unless you catch cases or rap over trap beats

Lol good job at showing that you completely misunderstood the entirety of my post. I didn't realize soul beats were trap beats. You're right though, the police don't fuck with successful black men that they cannot control. You're so smart and clever how can I be ignorant and cool like you please tell me

 

[xxCivicxx]

Niggas just forgot about this too?

 

[A1000MILES]

What kinda argument is that, cuh?..."Jay ain't bein held back by the system, he must be a pawn"...That's almost dumber than the illuminati shit...Obviously, the nigga has higher ups, but that don't mean he they slave...I(and hopefully you as well) know of plenty successful black men in real life who have no legal troubles...It's called makin smart moves...It's called spending smart money...Come on nigga...

 

[xxCivicxx]

What kinda argument is that, cuh?..."Jay ain't bein held back by the system, he must be a pawn"...That's almost dumber than the illuminati shit...Obviously, the nigga has higher ups, but that don't mean he they slave...I(and hopefully you as well) know of plenty successful black men in real life who have no legal troubles...It's called makin smart moves...It's called spending smart money...Come on nigga...

There's a clear difference between making smart moves and living comfortably, and being worth close to a billion together with your wife. You and I know that the majority of blacks living in America will never ever come close to being that wealthy. The white middle class and the black middle class are 2 completely different classes, even though you're made to believe that they aren't. You act like I'm making a stupid argument, but has there been a single true civil rights leader throughout history that has not been assassinated/murdered/jailed/had their character assassinated. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and everyone like them are again just pawns, used to disperse any kind of energy that builds up within the black community. We are all slaves to the "higher ups" through student loan car note credit card and mortgage they debt that they trick you into placing onto yourself.

I don't understand how niggas can be so oblivious to the shit around them. Blacks don't own any more wealth than they did right after slavery ended. Not a single black person owns any of the resources coming out of Africa. The CIA pumped drugs into black communities to help break up the civil rights movement then threw millions of black men in jail for stupid shit. The prison industrial complex is a for profit system. Hip hop is being taken by whites and remolded to maximize corporate profits just like rock and roll blues jazz funk and disco were. Most black artists and athletes are broke again 5 years after they stop making money in their profession. Apparently every single one of these people were just stupid and didn't know how to make smart moves. There was never anything more sinister happening.

I don't think I've ever heard Jay-Z speak on any of that

 

[NoCompetition]

I think some of yall are takin this too seriously. He's a rapper who makes entertaining music. His job is to get people to pay and be entertained. In that regard, he's doing a great job. He has songs i like but otherwise Im pretty casual. Gotta give credit for the business and life moves too. Time to check outta this one for me. He was right tho "ball so hard muhfuxas wanna fine me" Some of yall wish you could fine him for ballin. Hilarious.

 

[A1000MILES]

What kinda argument is that, cuh?..."Jay ain't bein held back by the system, he must be a pawn"...That's almost dumber than the illuminati shit...Obviously, the nigga has higher ups, but that don't mean he they slave...I(and hopefully you as well) know of plenty successful black men in real life who have no legal troubles...It's called makin smart moves...It's called spending smart money...Come on nigga...

There's a clear difference between making smart moves and living comfortably, and being worth close to a billion together with your wife. You and I know that the majority of blacks living in America will never ever come close to being that wealthy. The white middle class and the black middle class are 2 completely different classes, even though you're made to believe that they aren't. You act like I'm making a stupid argument, but has there been a single true civil rights leader throughout history that has not been assassinated/murdered/jailed/had their character assassinated. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and everyone like them are again just pawns, used to disperse any kind of energy that builds up within the black community. We are all slaves to the "higher ups" through student loan car note credit card and mortgage they debt that they trick you into placing onto yourself.

I don't understand how niggas can be so oblivious to the shit around them. Blacks don't own any more wealth than they did right after slavery ended. Not a single black person owns any of the resources coming out of Africa. The CIA pumped drugs into black communities to help break up the civil rights movement then threw millions of black men in jail for stupid shit. The prison industrial complex is a for profit system. Hip hop is being taken by whites and remolded to maximize corporate profits just like rock and roll blues jazz funk and disco were. Most black artists and athletes are broke again 5 years after they stop making money in their profession. Apparently every single one of these people were just stupid and didn't know how to make smart moves. There was never anything more sinister happening.

I don't think I've ever heard Jay-Z speak on any of that

JAY Z IS NOT A FUCKIN CIVIL RIGHTS LEADER...HE HAS NO OBLIGATION TO BE...HE'S A RAPPER/BUSINESSMAN/PHILANTHROPIST...HE'S GOTTEN INTO TROUBLE, BUT GUESS WHAT?...HE JUST DOESN'T ANYMORE...HE'S WASTED MONEY, BUT GUESS WHAT?...HE JUST DOESN'T AMYMORE...IT'S NOT THAT FUCKIN HARD TO CONCEIVE....YES, ATHLETES WHO LOSE ALL THEY MONEY AFTER LEAVING THE GAME ARE DUMB NIGGAS...JESUS...Lol...

 

[nex gin]

Threads like these.....man o man I tell ya.

"How you a man waitin' for the next man to get rich?

Yo' plan is to stick out yo' hand real quick" - Nas