My thing is, this has become a common complaint against Jay for some time now....I'd say since he "unretired" himself. At this point, if you don't like the guy, just turn off the music (I have for the most part), cause as of now, he's on Jordan status: which is when the whole world knows you really don't care about the people who worship you, but they follow and swear by you so hard, it doesn't matter what you do.
DOPEdweebz
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Its funny when a thorough intelligent thread like this is made, none of the posters who I see calling other coons or that insinuate that other posters "like the white mans ice better aka slave mentality" even show up to support the thread starter. The math doesn't add up.
I guess we live in a world where blacks just hate other blacks no matter what which is even sadder than this jigga shuck and jiving while having a coon picnic.
But hey at least he supports BET events... oh wait...
I guess we live in a world where blacks just hate other blacks no matter what which is even sadder than this jigga shuck and jiving while having a coon picnic.
But hey at least he supports BET events... oh wait...
Gen. Stasia;6013867 said:
You know what you right about that I'll give it up to him on that but those type of lyrics are few and far between in his body of work
The arguement can be made that Jay throws in lines like that to placate his critics tho but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on this one
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$ineedmoney$
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NoCompetition;6013839 said:
Hol' up.
*insert big ear kid pic that Euro Jay keeps under wraps*
Baw$3$mok3.JR
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Jay being into Sinatra is him being New York and affluent.
Jay and Johnny Cash????
Jay shouting out Kobain, is Like some white guy mentioning Tupac
Kurt to rock. Is what Pac is to rap.
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Jay has expanded himself. Him being more universal , allows Jay to express himself as he always wanted to. The artsy Jay, was always trapped because hood niggaz would of shun him.
In the hood its a sin 2 do different shut. until they start dick riding. The same can be said about any place tho. Being different is a sin.
Jay use 2 run with Malachi York. & was a counscious rapper b4 Dame on hiz Jaz O era.
Jay and Johnny Cash????
Jay shouting out Kobain, is Like some white guy mentioning Tupac
Kurt to rock. Is what Pac is to rap.
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Jay has expanded himself. Him being more universal , allows Jay to express himself as he always wanted to. The artsy Jay, was always trapped because hood niggaz would of shun him.
In the hood its a sin 2 do different shut. until they start dick riding. The same can be said about any place tho. Being different is a sin.
nopewhite715;6013782 said:
Jay use 2 run with Malachi York. & was a counscious rapper b4 Dame on hiz Jaz O era.
white715;6013832 said:
Like when Jay-z made a record about Katrina and donated a million dollars to it.
Like when Jay-z established a fund for Sean Bell's family and spoke on police brutality
Like when Jay-z donated money for wells in Africa and became an ambassador for the United Nations
Liker when Jay-z brought attention to Danroy Henry
Like when Beyonce opened up a center for women who came from a domestic violence background in Houston
Oh wait!
How does Jay-z shy away from black folks?
1. His wife is black
2. His best friends are black (TY TY, Bleek, Emory,etc)
3. His label execs are all black execs (TYTY, HipHop,etc)
4. Most of the artist he put on are black (Rihanna, Cole, Ye, Just Blaze,etc)
5. When you see them poparazzi pics it's him and his family
Not that it matters who the fuck he hangs with, i'm of the belief of hanging with like minded people, not people based on race. That's simple minded shit.
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Irrefutable video evidence of Jiggaman cooning for white folks
What happen to So I'm cruisin in the car with this boozy broad
She said, "Jigga-Man you rich, take the doo-rag off"
Hit a U-turn; ma I'm droppin you back off
Front of the club, "Jigga why you do that for?"
Thug nigga til the end, tell a friend bitch
What happen to So I'm cruisin in the car with this boozy broad
She said, "Jigga-Man you rich, take the doo-rag off"
Hit a U-turn; ma I'm droppin you back off
Front of the club, "Jigga why you do that for?"
Thug nigga til the end, tell a friend bitch
$ineedmoney$
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Euro Jay been on sum Uncle Tom shyt for quite sum time now. This is nuthin' new to me.
IceBergTaylor
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I literally was just reading a thread in the social lounge asking when did being educated blacks get associated with "acting white"
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usmarin3;6013924 said:
If Jay was on the opposite side of the spectrum .
They wouldn't even call him, a proud black man. They would called him a millitant, annoying, and wish He was still on some hood shit like How they do..........Nas.
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1) Yall seem to just skim through music
2) Let's hold every rapper to these standards
3) Jay Z is a business, man.
2) Let's hold every rapper to these standards
3) Jay Z is a business, man.
So Euro Centrism is being well rounded?
If he was really well rounded he'd talk about African history, Asian History, the history of Latinos, the history of indigenous peoples, not just white people.
He makes references to white entertainers, what about James Brown, or Marvin Gaye, or Paul Robeson how often does he big up black legends in his raps or in interviews? He does here and there but not as much as he does white folks. At least he has not in his recent history.
If he was really well rounded he'd talk about African history, Asian History, the history of Latinos, the history of indigenous peoples, not just white people.
He makes references to white entertainers, what about James Brown, or Marvin Gaye, or Paul Robeson how often does he big up black legends in his raps or in interviews? He does here and there but not as much as he does white folks. At least he has not in his recent history.
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The Recipe
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usmarin3;6013947 said:
There is no explanation needed that shit was straight cooning, I can see that with my on eyes bro, of course dream gone say some shit like that he in the Familia getting cake through Beyonce on Hov. But what Hov did was beyond roasting it was pandering to white folks. Plain and simple.
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A1000MILES
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I think the whole opening post is a blatant misconception...
DOPEdweebz
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I don't think jay is wrong for liking artists who happened to be white (people should never box themselves into liking certain types ofmusic, especially when white people are buying all these black artists' music to begin with and we never look down at them, hell more of them fuck with Jimmy Hendrix than we do and they don't call themselves "Afro -Whites" as a backhanded comment for doing so)
I do however have a hard time dealing the "my black skin dirtying the white tuxedo" hook. There is a slight subconscious connotation I believe going on there. If he could explain it intelligently maybe I might change my mind. I like perspective. (I do undertsand it's a metaphor for how whites view his skin despite his money, but it rubs me the wrong way he presents it, or maybe I'm hyper-sensitive).
I do however have a hard time dealing the "my black skin dirtying the white tuxedo" hook. There is a slight subconscious connotation I believe going on there. If he could explain it intelligently maybe I might change my mind. I like perspective. (I do undertsand it's a metaphor for how whites view his skin despite his money, but it rubs me the wrong way he presents it, or maybe I'm hyper-sensitive).
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white715;498797 said:I can no longer rock wit Jay anymore as a proud Black man I can't support this dude anymore. I used to laugh at the whole Euro Jay thing but it's the truth this dude in the last few years has moved further and further away from a black/soulful sound and more towards a European/pop/white sound and it's even reflected in the imagery of his music.
Jay seems obsessed with white artists like Johnny Cash, Frank Sinatra, and Kurt Cobain, even going as far to say that Kurt Cobain shut down Hip-Hop in 1991, and he continued this trend on MCHG. When Jay did get around to mentioning a black entertainer on "Nickles and Dimes" it was in a disrespectful manner.
"I'm just tryna find common ground
'fore Mr. Belafonte come chop a nigga down
Mr. Day O major fail
respect these youngins Boy, it's my time now"
This dude actually called Harry Belafonte "Boy" a man that dedicated his life to fight for the rights and freedoms of Black people even risked his life as others in the movement were being murdered and lynched he still marched and spoke out and continues to do so now, you call him Boy?
And the worse part of the album is this dude allowing Frank Ocean to sing "I hope my black skin don't dirt this white tuxedo" that shit is disgusting, that is some Clarence Thomas, Allen West level cooning.
I'm done with this Oreo cookie nigga.
i told niggas in the "album dropping" and "reviews" thread that it really looks like this dude is paying homage and saluting whites too much
tom ford??
picasso??
its like this dude never read a book or even heard a lecture about history from a black perspective
he comes off as if white figures in history set the standard
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