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politicalthug202;2012867 said:naw joey killed jay with his second verse something serious,but i will say they were almost even
He reused Jay's line from the jumpoff.. When i first listened to that track, this was before I even really fucked with Jay heavy, my first response was jay murked this nigga. Doesn't seem like im the only one with that opinion..
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s2jepeka;2012875 said:Oh shyt!, thanks for that insight! smh Hate when nggas say that dumb shyt...its a message board, all this shyt is opinion, no need to state the obvious...
of course its opinion, i mean you can quantify it with lyrics but at the end of the day thats all it is loll
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blackbloc;2012739 said:that what i ment when i said jay adding a verse was a bitch move, he wanted 250k for the verse that would of been half joe budget , not until the track blows up did jay add his verse basically disrespecting joe , so joe added another verse and that when jay staring to cock block his career on def jam
Ehh, not so fast my friend
Thats just business. Jay was Jay, we all know he dont jump on tracks w/ a lot of guys. The real bytch move woulda been if he DID do the remix after the song blew. H didnt, he just freestyled over it, which happens w/ a lot of great songs...And for some reason rappers always get aggy w/ that like its not part of the game
Now, Jay DID do something similar w/ Cam and Oh Boy that can be considered 'bytch'...he passed on the 'Oh Boy' beat and all around never fuked w/ Cam, but when 'Oh Boy' blew up he recorded a verse. Unsolicited, on some 'here i'll do u a favor' Cam LITERALLY had Guru erase the verse and was like fuk that ngga and his verse lol, thus you've never heard it...
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KingdomKame;2012905 said:of course its opinion, i mean you can quantify it with lyrics but at the end of the day thats all it is loll
I know, its just a pet peeve of mine when people say 'thats ur opinion' lol If we didnt argue opinions there'd b no Reason or IC
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TRILLip Brooks
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no cam took the oh boy beat, according to just blaze
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s2jepeka;2012922 said:Ehh, not so fast my friend
Thats just business. Jay was Jay, we all know he dont jump on tracks w/ a lot of guys. The real bytch move woulda been if he DID do the remix after the song blew. H didnt, he just freestyled over it, which happens w/ a lot of great songs...And for some reason rappers always get aggy w/ that like its not part of the game
Now, Jay DID do something similar w/ Cam and Oh Boy that can be considered 'bytch'...he passed on the 'Oh Boy' beat and all around never fuked w/ Cam, but when 'Oh Boy' blew up he recorded a verse. Unsolicited, on some 'here i'll do u a favor' Cam LITERALLY had Guru erase the verse and was like fuk that ngga and his verse lol, thus you've never heard it...
it being business doesnt change its a bitch move , jay could of been on the remix and had the track blow and gotta paid for it , instead he made no money of his so called freestyle , laying a verse for free is bad business
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jonlakadeadmic
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jay killed that, easily.
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NeighberHoodPusher;2012947 said:no cam took the oh boy beat, according to just blaze
cam "stole" the oh boy beat from jay , cause jay" stole" the Izzo beat
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TRILLip Brooks
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the pump it up freestyle is from the s. carter collection mixtape that came out when the shoe came out. jay rapping over the beat is what lil wayne does on all his mixtape
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blackbloc;2012965 said:cam "stole" the oh boy beat from jay , cause jay" stole" the Izzo beat
i know, but dude said he passed on it
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blackbloc;2012951 said:it being business doesnt change its a bitch move , jay could of been on the remix and had the track blow and gotta paid for it , instead he made no money of his so called freestyle , laying a verse for free is bad business
U big dummy lol Do u know what a mixtape is? smh So evrybody who hopped on A Milli beat shoulda just did the official remix, huh?
And this is Jay z were talkin bout, i would assume we all know $ is not his motive in what tracks he spits on.
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NeighberHoodPusher;2012947 said:no cam took the oh boy beat, according to just blaze
blackbloc;2012965 said:cam "stole" the oh boy beat from jay , cause jay" stole" the Izzo beat
I think we all musta been in that 'Last Days of the Roc' thread lol I got the story from the Diary of Jim Jones vid
I'll admit, i cant remeber the specific detail, but i think u right. Jay didnt pass on it, he never heard it...but Just had it made for him, it was lyin around, and they took it...i think
Either way, the important detail is Jay aint never fuk wit Cam, but recordd the verse on some 'i know u gon want this i aint even gotta ask' lol
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s2jepeka;2012997 said:U big dummy lol Do u know what a mixtape is? smh So evrybody who hopped on A Milli beat shoulda just did the official remix, huh?
And this is Jay z were talkin bout, i would assume we all know $ is not his motive in what tracks he spits on.
what mixtape was the verse on? jay doesnt need mixtape nor has he ever used them to get exposure 2003 was a diff climate then 2008 so you cant compare a milli to pump it up . also jay only rapped on official mixtapes that the roc put out under dj clue, so how did that freestyle help jay in business? that track was big but in da club was way bigger wouldn't it of made sense business wise to fresstyle over that ? your a fool if you think $ is not his motive
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NeighberHoodPusher;2012973 said:i know, but dude said he passed on it
but cam didnt pass on the izzo beat he thought it. that jay jay went to the bet awards and performed, even before he had laid his verse in the studio . jay has a long history of snaking niggas
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TRILLip Brooks
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blackbloc;2013058 said:but cam didnt pass on the izzo beat he thought it. that jay jay went to the bet awards and performed, even before he had laid his verse in the studio . jay has a long history of snaking niggas
i wasn't talking bout cam, another poster said jay passed on the oh boy beat
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NeighberHoodPusher;2013067 said:i wasn't talking bout cam, another poster said jay passed on the oh boy beat
oh my bad he properly did just like pump it up , but after hearing a skill flow on it wanted it back
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blackbloc;2013047 said:what mixtape was the verse on? jay doesnt need mixtape nor has he ever used them to get exposure 2003 was a diff climate then 2008 so you cant compare a milli to pump it up . also jay only rapped on official mixtapes that the roc put out under dj clue, so how did that freestyle help jay in business? that track was big but in da club was way bigger wouldn't it of made sense business wise to fresstyle over that ? your a fool if you think $ is not his motive
S. Carter Collection
www.datpiff.com/Roc-a-fella_Jay-z_S_Carter_Collection.m12400.html
You're welcome.
He also spit over 'Cant be Done'-50, Bump Bump Bump-B2K (fukin MURKED that shyt), Rock Star-Pharell...
Like, do u not listen to mixtapes? lol Nggas rap over commercially know beats. Always have, always will
And thats y this mixtape was so rare, cuz he rarely does mixtapes, let alone FREESTYLE on like 10 songs...
As far as capitalizing off buzz, this was dropped before his supposed last album, the Black Album...the ngga hardly needed the buzz lol
MSG concert ring a bell? smh
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