Jay still biting, Big "I'm Michael, take your pick Jackson, Tyson, Jordan, Game 6"!!!

[Already Home_17]

Lmao, yea i caught the tags, and they funny as fuck becuz of what they are exposing bout those who created them, basically this is the reaction that this thread has provoked out of some posters, lmao...and if you noticed some of the replies have been equal to 0 in substance, most likely by those who took time to create the tags, who really laughing?rofl...

To address your other point, come on now, i know you've heard plenty of ish, where Jay takes from Big, basically this one is just addin to the list of things, and the funniest shyt bout this one in particular, is that its used on one of the biggest hits in hip hop right now in 2011, in his project Ye, what is the need in him doing this? It makes me come to the conclusion that he can't come up with shyt like this, I ain't even wanna type that, but thats how this shyt is startin to come accross.

like i said, i consider taking the line word for word biting. i never denied jay's habit of taking other rappers lyrics. as a fan of his music, the shit annoys me
obviously big's line on victory influenced it. jay took the line and flipped it. i consider how he executed it pretty clever
and to your last point, jay is capable of coming of with his own shit. never was the lines he stole the hottest line in the song.he said himself biting other rappers lines isnt a crutch for him. though i believe it, the shit does get ridiculous after a while

 

[ShencotheMC]

[video=youtube;6vxiQ9JCKvE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vxiQ9JCKvE[/video]

Man, I hate you stupid niggas on the IC

 

[international]

like i said, i consider taking the line word for word biting. i never denied jay's habit of taking other rappers lyrics. as a fan of his music, the shit annoys me
obviously big's line on victory influenced it. jay took the line and flipped it. i consider how he executed it pretty clever
and to your last point, jay is capable of coming of with his own shit. never was the lines he stole the hottest line in the song.he said himself biting other rappers lines isnt a crutch for him. though i believe it, the shit does get ridiculous after a while

I mean even Cam done used this shyt before too, and i believe it is a crutch, certainly biggies lines must be a crotch with the freuqency he uses them, and yea he flipped it, but that shyt is obvious to any hiphop listener, don't even have to be a hardcore one to recognize the shyt, and for a rapper that is as highly regarded as he is, these kind of lines should have been him comin up with it in the first place................

 

[usmarin3]

The point is, that this ain't the first time Jay has done this nor its the only line that he's obviously bit from Big. There like 7 mins of material of him spittin other ppls lines, biggie the most obviously. For a nigga that is as highly regarded in hip hop, as he is, that ain't a good look, nor even for the genre or Jay.

Jay uses other rappers lines so does Nas, so does Em, so does Bun B, so does Game, so does 50 Cent. It really irks you niggas when Jay does it, doesn't it. lmfao

The only fucking difference between Jay-z and these other rappers are, they don't have enough haters who care enough to record all the lines other rappers have taken.

Jay-z using other lines doesn't take anything away from his legacy considering all the verses he has put out that's original. Now stop your bloodcloth crying!

 

[Already Home_17]

I mean even Cam done used this shyt before too, and i believe it is a crutch, certainly biggies lines must be a crotch with the freuqency he uses them, and yea he flipped it, but that shyt is obvious to any hiphop listener, don't even have to be a hardcore one to recognize the shyt, and for a rapper that is as highly regarded as he is, these kind of lines should have been him comin up with it in the first place................

the bolded is about to help my argument
if jay using biggies rhymes is a crutch for him and he isnt capable of thinking of a great line, verse, or song without it, then he wouldnt be regarded so highly as a rapper

 

[international]

the bolded is about to help my argument
if jay using biggies rhymes is a crutch for him and he isnt capable of thinking of a great line, verse, or song without it, then he wouldnt be regarded so highly as a rapper

Not really, see I think he regarded that highly based on a bunch of shyt outside of the music, which i didn't want to talk bout in the opening post, I don't even need to mention it, im pretty sure you know what they are....

 

[international]

Jay uses other rappers lines so does Nas, so does Em, so does Bun B, so does Game, so does 50 Cent. It really irks you niggas when Jay does it, doesn't it. lmfao

The only fucking difference between Jay-z and these other rappers are, they don't have enough haters who care enough to record all the lines other rappers have taken.

Jay-z using other lines doesn't take anything away from his legacy considering all the verses he has put out that's original. Now stop your bloodcloth crying!

Wait, so now you comparing Jay to rappers like Game and 50, but in any other context you wouldn't, but since it suits you, lmaooo...the irony.

As far as your points go; upload 7+ mins of material of a rapper like Nas or Em biting shyt like how Jay-z has, and don't stop there, and from that 7+ mins of material make sure that 95% is from one specific rapper like how Jay does Big's....You won't be able to do that nigga, see thats the difference.

And to me it does take away from his legacy, how is he considered the greatest and he pullin shyt like this, and when it comes to putting him up agains't a rapper of Nas's caliber he CAN'T stand up tall, but this ain't a jay vs nas thread, so no need to go there neither.

 

[CeLLaR-DooR]

Is TS suggestin' that Jay quoted the line out of necessity?

 

[international]

The real question is, why does he need a Biggie quote so often? thats something that needs to be asked...

Is TS suggestin' that Jay quoted the line out of necessity?

^^^^^^^^^ read above.

 

[choppa_style]

Where is the biting in this example? As I understand it, biting means taking ones style or blatantly plagarising someone else's work. Throwing out a bar here or there is hardly taking a style, and I never heard Jay talking about being too fat to run or fucking Faith Evans.

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

"But he get money though."

"He's not the only one, other rappers do it as well."

"He didn't bite, he paid homage by switching a word or two around."

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This pretty much sums up everyone's response.

 

[international]

"But he get money though."

"He's not the only one, other rappers do it as well."

"He didn't bite, he paid homage by switching a word or two around."

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This pretty much sums up everyone's response.

yep, co-sign, its funny as fuck to see how they deal with it too. Already Home_17 the only one actually making an attempt to argue and sayin sumtin substantial.

 

[international]

uppin...............

 

[_Ozymandias_]

not this again....

[video=youtube;sszLKVdBIWU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sszLKVdBIWU[/video]

[video=youtube;m3SiI8EsVqw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3SiI8EsVqw&feature=related[/video]

 

[international]

not this again....

[video=youtube;sszLKVdBIWU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sszLKVdBIWU[/video]

[video=youtube;m3SiI8EsVqw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3SiI8EsVqw&feature=related[/video]

how many rappers is that in each vid? Now you know you can get the same kind of vid just of JAY ALONE DOIN THIS? and thats the point... besides ain't jay supposed to be superior to 99% of those rappers in the vids and ain't he regarded as such? So why he carrying himself like the 'others' and being just like all the other rappers...You ain't goin find a rapper like Nas or mos def or common with the same amount of material from Big or any other rapper as Jay does of Big, and still uses till this day in 2011.

 

[_Ozymandias_]

how many rappers is that in each vid? Now you know you can get the same kind of vid just of JAY ALONE DOIN THIS? and thats the point... besides ain't jay supposed to be superior to 99% of those rappers in the vids and ain't he regarded as such? So why he carrying himself like the 'others' and being just like all the other rappers...You ain't goin find a rapper like Nas or mos def or common with the same amount of material from Big or any other rapper as Jay does of Big, and still uses till this day in 2011.

and you could get a vid of just as long of other rappers using jay lines. it's called "flippin a line" or "recycling". and seems like it's only a problem when jay does it though. which makes you hypocrite.

if you have problem with jay doing it then you should have a problem with every rapper (including nas, mos, & common) doing it. because they all do.

 

[brklynbread]

just cuz you predict a persons response to your thread doesn't eliminate the responses integrity. Like making a "Jay Z sucks!!" thread and then posting "Oh Jay fans gonna be mad" doesn't mean anything. This is like the 3rd shock/ Jay-z biting thread i seen in a week. IDK there was still cats holding on to this stupid argument that Camron tried to popularize. You realize even if Jay did bite these so called lines from BIG, how can you weigh 1-2 bars against 12 albums??? the amount of lyrics dont equate to him plagiarizing If I did 500 songs and 20 of those songs had 1 bar where I quoted another rapper how can I be called a biter? evry rapper does this. yall sad as hell.

 

[jek]

and you could get a vid of just as long of other rappers using jay lines. it's called "flippin a line" or "recycling". and seems like it's only a problem when jay does it though. which makes you hypocrite.

if you have problem with jay doing it then you should have a problem with every rapper (including nas, mos, & common) doing it. because they all do.

Nawl man you not understanding. That's the TS' s point. People treat it like its no big deal that Jay bites but wanna nit pick if Game namedrops or other rappers recycle. Yall call out every other rapper for bites and namedrops so why people can't judge Jay by the same standards other mcees yall crucify get judged by? Jay gets away wit this dumb shit but got niggas in here saying and I'm paraphrasing so it might not be exact words but you GUYS are like:

"Smh @ people just hearing it"
"I don't think its biting because it wasn't word for word"
" why It's only a problem when Jay do it"
"Other rappers ain't popular enuff to have enough haters for it to matter"

Man fuck all of that shit!! He suppose to be the God MC. The number one rapper in the world gotta steal niggas lines and concepts? And to think, niggas thought Nas wasn't spitting facts on Ether

"How many of Biggies rhymes is gonna come out your fat lips?"......NAS

Nigga's soul should be burning every time he resorts to the Biting and recycling of the Notorious One

 

[A$AP_A$TON]

You escape what I escape you be in Paris gettin fucked up too!

 

[_Ozymandias_]

Nawl man you not understanding. That's the TS' s point. People treat it like its no big deal that Jay bites but wanna nit pick if Game namedrops. Jay gets away wit this dumb shit but got niggas in here saying and I'm paraphrasing so it might not be exact words but you GUYS are like:



"Smh @ people just hearing it"

"I don't think its biting because it wasn't word for word"

" why It's only a problem when Jay do it"

"Other rappers ain't popular enuff to have enough haters for it to matter"

Man fuck all of that shit!! He suppose to be the God MC. And to think, niggas thought Nas wasn't spitting facts on Ether

"How many of Biggies rhymes is gonna come out your fat lips?"NAS

Nigga's soul should be burning every time he resorts to the Biting nd recycling of the Notorious One

no. i get his point. i just dont agree with it or think that's it's valid.

he can dislike "flippin lines". but if you're going be like "i hate when jay uses biggie's line" then it would seem like you would hate it when ANY rapper uses another rapper's lines, including when nas himself flipped biggie lines. otherwise you make yourself out to be a hypocrite.

either its ok in your eyes or its not. you can't pick and choose. because said rapper does it, "it's biting" but when that other rapper with does it "it's cool." that's fake to me.