Jack The Ripper - LL Cool J

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When I'm in the barbershop and we are talking rap, young cats refuse to believe that LL was the best rapper alive at one point.

That was when I was in high school. I was a freshmen in 87 and graduated in 91. He had his ups and downs but the Bigger and Deffer album was the summer between 8th and 9th grade and the Mama Said Knock You Out album was during my senior year. He was beefing with Kool Moe Dee the whole time I was in high school.
 
Yeah LL was the best rapper, real talk, once he busted out in krush groove. his style was so new and fresh!

i was in the 4th grade in 86. by 6th grade he had the shoe TROOP and everybody wanted those over jordans. This is before the 3's came out 7th grade year.
 
It all started when Kool Moe Dee released the single How Ya Like Me Now (lyrics) in his 1987 album with the same title dissing LL Cool J for some Behind-The-Scenes offenses while claiming he stole his rapping style, which, interestingly, was the same excuse MC Shan used for dissing LL on his track Beat Biter.

The song contained only indirect hits to Cool J such as:

I’m bigger and better,forget about deffer

Which refered to LL Cool J’s second album Bigger and Deffer.

Other notable lines pointing at LL were:

A sucker rapper that I know I’ll serve

Run around town sayin' he is the best

Is that a test?

I’m not impressed

Get real,you’re nothin' but a toy

Which referred to how LL Cool J said he was “The Best” in the Hip Hop game.

After that LL Cool J replied with Jack The Ripper (lyrics). This song had multiple mentions of and many indirect shots at Moe Dee and MC Shan.

“How You Like Me Now” punk? You living foul

Here’s what my game is, kill is what my aim is

A washed up rapper needs a washer, my name is–

And the line which later got sampled in Kool Moe Dee’s Let’s Go (lyrics)

“How Ya Like Me Now?” I’m getting busier

I’m double platinum, I’m watching you get dizzier

Another song from the same album, Jingling Baby, also contained indirect shots at Moe Dee.

That was followed with a more aggressive reply by Kool Moe Dee titled Let’s Go (lyrics). While the other disses were very indirect, this one mentioned LL’s name multiple times and including samples of LL Cool J rapping the above mentioned lines on the track Jack The Ripper, and the famous wordplay with the letters “L.L.”:

Tryna be me, now LL stands for

Lower Level, Lack Luster

Last Least, Limp Lover

Lousy Lame, Latent Lethargic

Lazy Lemon, Little Logic

Lucky Leech, Liver Lipped

Laborious Louse on a Loser’s Lips

Live in Limbo, Lyrical Lapse

Low Life with the loud raps, boy

Immediately followed by the following lines, making for of LL’s 1985 hit single Rock The Bells (lyrics)

…Now look what you done did

just using your name I took those L’s,

hung ‘em on your head and rocked your bells…

At the same time, it also mocks Cool J’s reply to Moe Dee,

You need to sneak back to the drawing board Jack…

The Ripper, down with my zipper

You get paid to be a Moe Dee tipster

This song also mocks the style of songs and concerts that Cool J makes

Yeah you’re headstrong, but you’re dead wrong

Wanna survive? Stick with the love songs

Take off your shirt, flex and flirt

And leave the real hard rhymes to the hard rhyme experts

If you don’t, boy you’ll get hurt

Feel like dirt and have to revert

To comin' on stage butt naked

To make up for what you can’t do on record

Referring to how Cool J likes to show his body in his concerts

To conclude, as in many other tracks, Moe Dee always challenged LL in a rap battle so he could “prove who’s better” as shown in this line:

Put up or shut up, get up, yeah what up?

Huh, get on the microphone and get cut up

Talk about how your records went double platinum

With those lyrics?! Huh, I laugh at them

So you got paid, take the money you’ve made

Bet it on yourself, are you afraid?

3 years later, in 1990, LL Cool J released the album titled Mama Said Knock You Out which contained 2 tracks dissing Kool Moe Dee (with a bonus of Ice T and MC Hammer).

The first track was called To Da Break of Dawn (lyrics). The first verse of the song was aimed at Moe Dee, witht he most notorious lines:

Wouldn’t bite because your rhymes are puppy chow

Made another million, so competators bow

Homeboy, hold on, my rhymes are so strong

Nothing could go wrong, so why do you prolong

Songs that ain’t strong, brother, you’re dead wrong

And got the nerve to have them Star Trek shades on

Mentioning the trademark sunglasses that Kool Moe Dee wears

The second song, had the same title as the album. Mama Said Knock You Out (lyrics). It also contained a lot of indirect hits to Moe Dee such as

And when I pull out my jammy get ready cause it might go

BLAAAAW, how ya like me now?

And

Shadow boxing when I heard you on the radio

I just don’t know

What made you forget that I was raw?

But now I got a new tour

The final song dissing LL Cool J was Death Blow (lyrics). Without even entering in lyric analysis,the official video of the song is a parody of the Mama Said Knock You Out (lyrics) video.

The song contained samples of To Da Break of Dawn (lyrics) while ridiculing it’s lyrics

Me and you, face to face, head to head

Mic to mic, I like the weak shit you said

To the break of dawn, beats nitro

Lyrics weak, say goodnight ‘cho

Star Trek shades, man cut the joke

Let’s get serious and go for broke

It also went into a more aggressive tone than any of the disses before

Cause I’m a whip you like your daddy, beat ya like a baby

Sick ya like a dog, dropping lyrics wit rabies

Cut ya like a knife cause you’re nuthin but hype

You slice and dice and ice twice for life

I’m a treat ya like a hooker punk, change your clothes

Put you on the streets wit ya jingling hoes

And

My lyrical beatdown will leave ya in a coma

Cause you can’t hang without a high school diploma

Referring to Cool J dropping high school to pursue his rapping career.

And sorry if this is long but it’s all made out of awesomeness

So who’s got no style, look at your profile

You can’t dance, can’t dress and you’re so foul

Still wearing played out 4 finger rings

Played out fat gold chains and things

You changed your look now change your gameplan

Trying to dress but you still wear name brand

Brother, you look crazy weak

And it gets worse when we hear you speak

So you ain’t got a chance in hell

You’ll be known as the late LL

The man who lost one, one too often

Came wit a soft one and went to his coffin

A close casket they won’t show ya

When I finish, you’re mama won’t know ya

Cause I’m a rip you limb from limb

You tombstone read he had no win

So RIP, Rest in peace, rip ‘em

D.I.D., dead indeed, did 'em

A H-I-T, hitman, so whatcha hit 'em wit

A rhyme silencer, I hit 'em wit a death blow

Then the song started replying to LL’s diss song Mama Said Knock You Out (lyrics) with lines like

If mama said knock me out, come do it

You can’t win and that (record scratch) knew it

And to conclude the song, he added a remixed version of his LL wordplay from his song Let’s Go (lyrics)

Because I’m a rock up L

Low life loser, life like luna

Lafidasical, lispless luna

Tic liver lifeless, living likeness

Lusting longing lyrics like this

Little league, lard larsonist liar

Label ledger, left the leper liar

Bull, lull, lateral learning

Laps language latent lurking

Language, language, local logo

Light laboring, limited local

Now LL’s a laughing stock

Cause I bit that ass to the last stop

The last diss was added by LL Cool J in 1995. The controversial song I Shot Ya (lyrics), was also taken as a diss my 2Pac after being shot.

In this song, the whole last verse was aimed at Moe Dee

Uh-uh-uh-oh, lookin kinda leary

Ya clique thought I fell off, they didn’t wanna hear me

Oh really, now teel me how long have you been whinin?

Sixteen years, twenty million albums, yeah you’re climbin

I love your joint Rock The Bells, it was mad hot

Ya record ‘bout the Radio was blowin up my spot

My girl was on your chip when you flipped I Need Love

Your backseat countset was mad butter, son

I loved your boomin system it was wicked as could be

You bad, now I’m writin on your pink cookies

And you had me screamin Mama Said Knock Ya Out

Ya jinglin, baby, no doubt

Uh, talk to me (what, what, uhh, uhh) become a zombie, walk to me

Ain’t a MC alive who fought with me

#In my opinion

Even if Moe Dee replied only with Let’s Go (lyrics), he still would’ve won. Though this is only my opinion since Let’s Go (lyrics) is my favorite diss of all time. On a lyrical level, Moe Dee is just too high up compared to LL Cool J.
 
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