32DaysOfInfiniti
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50 Cents shots at Ja didnt really make me like him any less, I just remember waiting for Ja Rule to respond with something dope and it never happened.
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freethewave;6997791 said:Thot it was funny that rappers turned against him.jay was tight then seemed not.dmx jumped in go to sleep.busta jumped on hail mary doin impressions.50 got niggaz goin at him lol
That was the weirdest part of it all to me.
Why is busta rhymes dissin?
Busta never have problem wit nobody but all of a sheen he dissin Ja like this his beef
SnuffDaddy
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freethewave;6997791 said:Thot it was funny that rappers turned against him.jay was tight then seemed not.dmx jumped in go to sleep.busta jumped on hail mary doin impressions.50 got niggaz goin at him lol
Not true. X had issues with Ja and Irv prior to that. That's one of the reasons 50 stayed close to X as a tactic basically, even tho they knew each other from before too.
Jay was tight still but he had some minor issues with Irv and things business & relationship wise. Jay not comin thru on certain things for Irv was one thing that essentially made Irv lowkey side with Nas in that whole thing & almost had him on Murder Inc.
I forgot what the Busta shit was about but didnt Ja diss him or Busta thought he dissed him or some shit?
But the only "real" issue was with 50. The rest was some "team"/"label" type shit. Even Eminem was straight with Ja prior but since 50 was on his label all of a sudden he had issues with him.
Thats why i always laugh when fans take sides not knowing its all business and almost never really that serious.
freethewave
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SnuffDaddy;7011941 said:freethewave;6997791 said:Thot it was funny that rappers turned against him.jay was tight then seemed not.dmx jumped in go to sleep.busta jumped on hail mary doin impressions.50 got niggaz goin at him lol
Not true. X had issues with Ja and Irv prior to that. That's one of the reasons 50 stayed close to X as a tactic basically, even tho they knew each other from before too.
Jay was tight still but he had some minor issues with Irv and things business & relationship wise. Jay not comin thru on certain things for Irv was one thing that essentially made Irv lowkey side with Nas in that whole thing & almost had him on Murder Inc.
I forgot what the Busta shit was about but didnt Ja diss him or Busta thought he dissed him or some shit?
But the only "real" issue was with 50. The rest was some "team"/"label" type shit. Even Eminem was straight with Ja prior but since 50 was on his label all of a sudden he had issues with him.
Thats why i always laugh when fans take sides not knowing its all business and almost never really that serious.
Yeah but before all that they never said shit on wax.50 in it with jeffrey and suddenly everyone pipes up.thats what I found interesting
freethewave;7012098 said:SnuffDaddy;7011941 said:freethewave;6997791 said:Thot it was funny that rappers turned against him.jay was tight then seemed not.dmx jumped in go to sleep.busta jumped on hail mary doin impressions.50 got niggaz goin at him lol
Not true. X had issues with Ja and Irv prior to that. That's one of the reasons 50 stayed close to X as a tactic basically, even tho they knew each other from before too.
Jay was tight still but he had some minor issues with Irv and things business & relationship wise. Jay not comin thru on certain things for Irv was one thing that essentially made Irv lowkey side with Nas in that whole thing & almost had him on Murder Inc.
I forgot what the Busta shit was about but didnt Ja diss him or Busta thought he dissed him or some shit?
But the only "real" issue was with 50. The rest was some "team"/"label" type shit. Even Eminem was straight with Ja prior but since 50 was on his label all of a sudden he had issues with him.
Thats why i always laugh when fans take sides not knowing its all business and almost never really that serious.
Yeah but before all that they never said shit on wax.50 in it with jeffrey and suddenly everyone pipes up.thats what I found interesting
I wanted to stay out of this thread, but people always say this but I don't agree. 50 been dissing Ja since '99 and Ja got bigger after '00. It wasn't until 50 signed with Dre and Em and Ja and Irv started talking smack in interviews involving Em when the tide started to turn for Ja. This was around mid to late '02.
harry knucklez
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GetoBoy;7012506 said:Niggas forgetting that busta at the time of the hail mary diss was signed to that aftermath/shady/gunit umbrella so I'm pretty sure he just did the diss to show some sort of loyalty to the team
Busta wasn't officially signed Aftermath when the Hail Mary diss dropped. He was responding to Ja dissing him on the "Loose Change" song and Busta's truck getting shot up by Murder Inc affiliates while it was sitting in front of the Violater offices (they thought it was 50's truck)
freethewave
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GetoBoy;7012506 said:Niggas forgetting that busta at the time of the hail mary diss was signed to that aftermath/shady/gunit umbrella so I'm pretty sure he just did the diss to show some sort of loyalty to the team
Good comment,never made that connection before
it was a beef Ja should of stayed out of, there was nothing he stood to gain by responding. He made a mistake by going after 50, he should of kept his mouth shut, concentrate on making hits. Ja should of had Irv be his mouthpiece, explain that Ja is focusing on what is in important and that is making good music. Explain that what 50 is doing is strictly for hype and to promote his album, Ja won't play that game and 50 needs to promote his album other ways. By going after 50 Ja fed into the hype.
Hit wise, Ja already peaked by the time 50 came around. From fall 2000 to summer 2002 Ja was at his best and like a lot of artists, you only have so many hits in you. When 50 came at Ja hard, Ja already ran out of songs that had the appeal of always on time and between me and you. People tend to erroneously credit 50 with ending Ja's career but Ja was already on a downslope and on the way to irrelevancy.
Hit wise, Ja already peaked by the time 50 came around. From fall 2000 to summer 2002 Ja was at his best and like a lot of artists, you only have so many hits in you. When 50 came at Ja hard, Ja already ran out of songs that had the appeal of always on time and between me and you. People tend to erroneously credit 50 with ending Ja's career but Ja was already on a downslope and on the way to irrelevancy.
Fairfax;7012919 said:it was a beef Ja should of stayed out of, there was nothing he stood to gain by responding. He made a mistake by going after 50, he should of kept his mouth shut, concentrate on making hits. Ja should of had Irv be his mouthpiece, explain that Ja is focusing on what is in important and that is making good music. Explain that what 50 is doing is strictly for hype and to promote his album, Ja won't play that game and 50 needs to promote his album other ways. By going after 50 Ja fed into the hype.
That strategy wouldn't have worked. Go to Youtube and d/l "I Smell Pussy". 50, Banks and Yayo were going at Ja and Irv. That song, along with others were floating around the internet and mixtapes. He couldn't stick his head in the sand and pretend those songs didn't exist. Especially after Eminem signed 50. "I Smell Pussy" was on Beg For Mercy, but it came out on the internet before "Wanksta".
freethewave
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Fairfax;7012919 said:it was a beef Ja should of stayed out of, there was nothing he stood to gain by responding. He made a mistake by going after 50, he should of kept his mouth shut, concentrate on making hits. Ja should of had Irv be his mouthpiece, explain that Ja is focusing on what is in important and that is making good music. Explain that what 50 is doing is strictly for hype and to promote his album, Ja won't play that game and 50 needs to promote his album other ways. By going after 50 Ja fed into the hype.
Hit wise, Ja already peaked by the time 50 came around. From fall 2000 to summer 2002 Ja was at his best and like a lot of artists, you only have so many hits in you. When 50 came at Ja hard, Ja already ran out of songs that had the appeal of always on time and between me and you. People tend to erroneously credit 50 with ending Ja's career but Ja was already on a downslope and on the way to irrelevancy.
He did.downslope or not your scenario is hypothetical.
Ja is where is now due to 50
I was probably chanting on 50s side back in middle school, but now analyzing the situation fans are awful. Idk if it only was 50 solo, i think the industry itself said "Eff Ja Rule".
So did Rick Ross "win"?
Fairfax;7012919 said:it was a beef Ja should of stayed out of, there was nothing he stood to gain by responding. He made a mistake by going after 50, he should of kept his mouth shut, concentrate on making hits. Ja should of had Irv be his mouthpiece, explain that Ja is focusing on what is in important and that is
So did Rick Ross "win"?
50 never took Ja's style man. I think niggas just like running with that cause it was said.
Late 90s- Early 2000s 50 always had a singy song flow on mainstream sounding/hit songs, hell his debut album was going to have Destiny's Child on it. Ja, on the other hand, was singing FULL ON R&B songs with Mary J, trying to seriously harmonize with that dumb ass fake deep voice he always using like nigga ain't see him get off the bus on Backstage with his real voice.
Every rapper at the time was making songs that bitches would love, 50 was on that shit during the Venni Vetti Ja days and shit too. 50 just became decided to release those songs as singles. G-Unit mixtapes even had 50 singing on the hooks or doing the singy songy flow on the hooks of the tracks, it's nothing new.
I never was a Ja fan, and I've always heard he was a fuck nigga back in Queens, but he had a decent run sales wise with his 2nd and 3rd album. I think when he started to take himself too seriously around the G-Unit beef and was hyping himself as the second coming of Pac was when I lost any respect for him. But, Ja still had a dope diss record with that joint where he referenced Kim and Hailey in the last line.
50 fucked himself up though, by letting his mentality from the street get to him in the industry. You can't run the industry like you ran the street. He willing to diss anybody and just let it ride, but that dissing shit turned to a gimmick. That's 50 biggest downfall. Nigga so used to folks NOT wanting to see him win before he won, that he didn't know how to take it when he finally won and just kept it on some "fuck everybody" shit.
Ja vs 50 beef was an interesting time in hip hop. I hope we never have no shit like that again though.
Late 90s- Early 2000s 50 always had a singy song flow on mainstream sounding/hit songs, hell his debut album was going to have Destiny's Child on it. Ja, on the other hand, was singing FULL ON R&B songs with Mary J, trying to seriously harmonize with that dumb ass fake deep voice he always using like nigga ain't see him get off the bus on Backstage with his real voice.
Every rapper at the time was making songs that bitches would love, 50 was on that shit during the Venni Vetti Ja days and shit too. 50 just became decided to release those songs as singles. G-Unit mixtapes even had 50 singing on the hooks or doing the singy songy flow on the hooks of the tracks, it's nothing new.
I never was a Ja fan, and I've always heard he was a fuck nigga back in Queens, but he had a decent run sales wise with his 2nd and 3rd album. I think when he started to take himself too seriously around the G-Unit beef and was hyping himself as the second coming of Pac was when I lost any respect for him. But, Ja still had a dope diss record with that joint where he referenced Kim and Hailey in the last line.
50 fucked himself up though, by letting his mentality from the street get to him in the industry. You can't run the industry like you ran the street. He willing to diss anybody and just let it ride, but that dissing shit turned to a gimmick. That's 50 biggest downfall. Nigga so used to folks NOT wanting to see him win before he won, that he didn't know how to take it when he finally won and just kept it on some "fuck everybody" shit.
Ja vs 50 beef was an interesting time in hip hop. I hope we never have no shit like that again though.
freethewave
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I hope we do see it and drakes next
TrueGodHS;7013928 said:50 never took Ja's style man. I think niggas just like running with that cause it was said.
Late 90s- Early 2000s 50 always had a singy song flow on mainstream sounding/hit songs, hell his debut album was going to have Destiny's Child on it. Ja, on the other hand, was singing FULL ON R&B songs with Mary J, trying to seriously harmonize with that dumb ass fake deep voice he always using like nigga ain't see him get off the bus on Backstage with his real voice.
Every rapper at the time was making songs that bitches would love, 50 was on that shit during the Venni Vetti Ja days and shit too. 50 just became decided to release those songs as singles. G-Unit mixtapes even had 50 singing on the hooks or doing the singy songy flow on the hooks of the tracks, it's nothing new.
I never was a Ja fan, and I've always heard he was a fuck nigga back in Queens, but he had a decent run sales wise with his 2nd and 3rd album. I think when he started to take himself too seriously around the G-Unit beef and was hyping himself as the second coming of Pac was when I lost any respect for him. But, Ja still had a dope diss record with that joint where he referenced Kim and Hailey in the last line.
50 fucked himself up though, by letting his mentality from the street get to him in the industry. You can't run the industry like you ran the street. He willing to diss anybody and just let it ride, but that dissing shit turned to a gimmick. That's 50 biggest downfall. Nigga so used to folks NOT wanting to see him win before he won, that he didn't know how to take it when he finally won and just kept it on some "fuck everybody" shit.
Ja vs 50 beef was an interesting time in hip hop. I hope we never have no shit like that again though.
Cosign @ the bolded. Ja Rule won that battle
freethewave
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Lol Ja had a dope ass line but it didnt stop the onslaught of of eminem and 50's disses.Id say Shady records won that battle
