J Cole Is Not A Go Getter..He Ain't A Hustler

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usmarin3;2290843 said:
See that's your problem, you have this monolithic thinking. The white man ain't my best friend, and every black person don't have your best interest at hand, the sooner you learn that the better you will be. I'm sick of mfs defending these fools, some niggas just don't want better, plain and fucking simple.

Then when you see them niggas, say something to them. Don't come in here talkin bout niggas don't go to college. You go to college don't you? You a nigga, them white boys at UCF see you as a nigga.
 
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Miles HIGH;2290874 said:
So, USMarine, how do you feel about the fact that J. Cole listens and relates to the same niggas that you call coons?

J Cole favorite rappers are Pac, Nas, Jay, Andre 3k,etc. I don't consider them coons, they don't downplay their intelligence.
 
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birdcallaveli;2290865 said:
lol at this thread. im so glad i smoked up before i read it.

Me too, cuh.

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sionb55;2290594 said:
LOL most niggas judge consistency by the visuals & how much the nigga in their face but never see the groundwork & things behind the scenes. J.Cole is touring the entire world doing shows for like 5000 to 20,000 ppl n shit. Thats a lot better than wat most of these new Freshmen rappers & even established rappers are doin. Far too many rappers fall into the loop of having that hot single & working their lives off around that single to keep that single hot & then themselves but wen sophomore time comes they brick or cant break a 2nd big single cuz the hype they built up for the very first one was too intense. Therefore the audience compares everything to the first big single - your seeing that w/ Wiz Khalifa whom might I say has yet to break another successful single that rivals Black & Yellow.

To combat this I co-sign J.Cole for going out overseas to build the ground work b/c those fans will support him & buy albums. And that type of grind will lead to other opportunities. This isnt 1993 or the early 2000s niggas. He's got critically acclaimed mixtapes & is easily top 3 best lyricists of the new age, him not selling well is laughable to say the least. Lupe Fiasco can sell 200k out the gate & hes more of a B-class artist and he had very little to no promo not to mention it was his weakest effort yet.

Imagine the bread J.Cole is getting from them overseas audiences AND the bread he's getting out here touring with Drake and others. You'd have to be a fool to say the nigga aint a go-getter, this nigga wants it more than everybody else, he's still underground and will go to the furthest ends of the world to rock out to european & chinese audiences n shit. STOP the hatred LOLOL. The old way wasn't working of just throwin artists out there rapid fire w/o artist development, the only niggas who got it rite were/are the country niggas, they groom their artists slowly and THEN put the machine behind them and that big endorsement, thats why Taylor Swift, Garth Brooks & Tim McGraw n shit can do a mil in the first week or drop greatest hits albums for 10+ years and still go multiplatinum....

good buildup & the overseas market = grand success

Co-sign this whole post. Cole's grinding..he's just not all over telling everyone his every move.
 
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ptowndonte;2290881 said:
Then when you see them niggas, say something to them. Don't come in here talkin bout niggas don't go to college. You go to college don't you? You a nigga, them white boys at UCF see you as a nigga.

nah, b
he a black person
chris rock made him who he is
 
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ptowndonte;2290881 said:
Then when you see them niggas, say something to them. Don't come in here talkin bout niggas don't go to college. You go to college don't you? You a nigga, them white boys at UCF see you as a nigga.

I'm not saying shit to nobody, if you don't want better or know better that's on you, it speaks tons about their mentality as a person. I wouldn't know what all white boys think, you're just generalizing and projecting your preconceived notions.
 
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usmarin3;2290883 said:
J Cole favorite rappers are Pac, Nas, Jay, Andre 3k,etc. I don't consider them coons, they don't downplay their intelligence.

Naw, nigga. Those might be his top 5 or whatever, but he listen to UGK, Boosie, Waka Flaka, and done a song wit Yo Gotti. And he grew up in ghetto ass Fayetteville, NC. All them niggas do is nigga shit.
 
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sionb55;2290854 said:
Nas's first 2 albums did very well commercially LOL Nas was one of the most acclaimed & well sold artists in the world during the early & mid 90s fam, Pac sold well too... maybe Hov i can give u but he RD still went gold and after his 4th album platinum. There is nooo way to tell wat J.Cole will sell but for him to just drop an album now just for the hell of it is ridiculous. This is the labels real chance to make a killin financially on new talent. He dropped a mixtape late last year so i dont see the significance in why he needs an album rite away. Seems to me like niggas just wanna see Cole fail just so they can say "i told u so" LOL J.Cole will still be a commercial success whether u like him or not. Niggas will claim Ross as a success even tho he doesnt go platinum but not Cole ? makes no sense. He may not do Eminem/50 Cent numbers but he will do very well come release time.

IMO its too early for him to drop, the general public needs to be koshered some more b4 he comes out, Lupe was good but now the game needs a few more artists like that so they have it in their heads the type of music to buy. As soon as that happens THEN J.Cole should get a release date. Goin off of his mixtapes i think its safe to say that hes got the talent, nigga dont even got an album out but they sayin his mixtape is a perfect 10 or a 5 mic mixtape how many niggas can u name that did that ? were there even niggas who did that b4 ? i think not LOL.

I'm a fan of J Cole, however the longer his album is pushed back the less successful it will be.

This is nothing to with not goin Plat, Ross has hit records, J Cole doesnt have a Everday I'm Hustling. Ross with each album has gained a bigger fanbase, Ross is more popular now than he was when he first dropped his album. He's grown as an artist. J Cole could be in Ross shoes.

he has enough buzz to do good numbers, obviously he will not do drake numbers, but that's more to do with his character and appeal, which wil grow on people with time and more albums.

the longer he leaves the more chance he will end up like a saigon, crooked i, joel ortiz.

nas, pac and jays first albums did OK COMMERCIALLY, they did not do Snoop numbers. All 3 of them got better sales with theyre follow up's because they built a bigger fanbase and buzz off they next release.

no point of believing j cole will do big numbers with his first release
 
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This thread if further proof how niggas lost, people are sitting in here defending Gucci and Plies, then shitting on J Cole the dude you should be pulling for.
 
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tompetrez3;2290701 said:
"niggas" are in college. you know the "niggas" play for the ucf team that dont give a fuck about what some other awkward ass 31 year old ALLEGED law student think about them. those thug ass florida "nigga" jocks that be waiting to shatter your glass jaw when your white girlfriend leaving u downstairs at the frat party to become a willing bukkake slave for "niggas" upstairs. you arent a distinguished chap to the white bitches your worship. you are a practice negro they test the waters with. no white woman is faithful to an uncle tom. that white bitch you spilling your feelings to getting dicked down rawdog by a underachiving "nigga" right now while you on the IC defending Jay Z. the sun dont shine. the sun dont shine.

tompetrez3;2290810 said:
"nigger" get the fuck outta here. nobody stalking your trapezoid skull faced ass. you the nigga that take them desperate opportunity flicks with them white bitches that aint thinking about your black ass. dont worry about me beating my woman. you worry about what you gonna do after a long day of public defending "niggas" on hourly wage by the county, going home and finding your trophy white wife being a cumdumpster for some igonorant black goons that turn her on. why would a white woman want to date a black man that wishes he is white man? that defeats the whole purpose. but you cant recognize game like that cause your self esteem is so low having any kind of interaction with a white person is a boost to your manhood.

Rofl @ the sun dont shine, the sun dont shine & whole post. ether is now processing..............ether is complete
 
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So this usmarine man is basically an uncle Tom to y'all....am I correct?
I'm just tryna get the basis of this whole argument so I could go to sleep...
 
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usmarin3;2290913 said:
This thread if further proof how niggas lost, people are sitting in here defending Gucci and Plies, then shitting on J Cole the dude you should be pulling for.

There's something called "personal preference" dude. I thought you went to college?
 
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Miles HIGH;2290905 said:
Naw, nigga. Those might be his top 5 or whatever, but he listen to UGK, Boosie, Waka Flaka, and done a song wit Yo Gotti. And he grew up in ghetto ass Fayetteville, NC. All them niggas do is nigga shit.

his favorite rapper is pac and his favorite album is makaveli 7 day theory

he even performs i aint mad atcha at every show he does

and another video of him rappin Pour Out Liquor word for word...that's god mc to him

theres a few videos where he talks about his fav rapper and fav album

other rappers who inspire him are nas, jay and kanye..he respects kanye as a entertainer more so than a rapper
 
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Miles HIGH;2290905 said:
Naw, nigga. Those might be his top 5 or whatever, but he listen to UGK, Boosie, Waka Flaka, and done a song wit Yo Gotti. And he grew up in ghetto ass Fayetteville, NC. All them niggas do is nigga shit.

LOL show me one piece of evidence where he said he listens to Wacka or Boosie. UGK makes real music, and i don't care if he grew up in the ghetto, his mentality and outlook isn't. It's one thing to be from the projects, it's another to keep the mentality your whole life or wanting nothing beyond it.
 
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rip.dilla;2290933 said:
There's something called "personal preference" dude. I thought you went to college?

Oh, it's personal preference when it comes to not like J Cole, but when i have my opion it's not. ok

Carry on!
 
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thesynthesis;2290935 said:
his favorite rapper is pac and his favorite album is makaveli 7 day theory

he even performs i aint mad atch at every show he does

and another video of him rappin Pour Out Liquor word for word...that's god mc to him

theres a few videos where he talks about his fav rapper and fav album

other rappers who inspire him are nas, jay and kanye..he respects kanye as a entertainer more so than a rapper

Ain't I say those might be his top 5, or favorites, or whatever, but he listens to all that "coonish southern shit" y'all hate too. He did a song wit Gotti, made a song called "Bun B for President", and has said on the radio in Charlotte that not only does Waka Flaka get him hype, but he would also like to do a song wit Boosie. Is this too impossible for you?

 
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usmarin3;2290904 said:
I'm not saying shit to nobody, if you don't want better or know better that's on you, it speaks tons about their mentality as a person. I wouldn't know what all white boys think, you're just generalizing and projecting your preconceived notions.

See, you the type of nigga who wants everybody to do what you doing. Think cause you wanna be a whatver every other nigga wanna be a whatever. You gone get you a nice job. And you gon marry you a light skinned woman with a high paying office job. And ya'll gon drink coffee in the morning and give each snooches on the cheek. Your wife gon be fuckin the marketing exec at her job later down the line. And she gon move out, and let you keep the Infiniti. You gon come home from work everyday, loosen up your tie, and watch channel 32. And you gon go to bars to drink away your life. End up involved with a whore from Plato, Texas. Give up your good job to do some fuck ass shit with her
 
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