J Cole Is Not A Go Getter..He Ain't A Hustler

[kingofharts]

Well of course not everyone knows there is like 15 ways to make money off of music. Their are alot of misinformed people out their like yourself. Plus rappers since they are really self employed can put away a larger amount of money away in a Solo 401k,SEP-IRA or SIMPLE IRA than a regular 9 to 5ers can. Niggas just to stupid to do that plus you can get benefits from ASCAP.

So wait, lol....rappers is putting away $ in retirement plans now. This must be like the stripper myth...cause I haven't heard too many 16s where cats were talking about diversifying their bonds. Giving advice on whether I should go with Charles Schwab or a good broker.

 

[G.R.I.P. Money $$$]

How do you think the Johnny Cochrans started out?

they may have started out that way...

my point was us mariner coon ass will never move up w/o suckin da white dick n/h...

hence him being a shitty public defender...

 

[MC The Rapper]

So wait, lol....rappers is putting away $ in retirement plans now. This must be like the stripper myth...cause I haven't heard too many 16s where cats were talking about diversifying their bonds. Giving advice on whether I should go with Charles Schwab or a good broker.

they don't but they could there are a ton of long term investment opportunities out there that people don't take advantage of in all walks of life. Do you know what a Roth IRA is ?

 

[c.b.b.]

Now here I was thinking if I pointed out the concept of average twice, that it would prevent some simple minded fool from reaching. Like everybody caking on an indie label. If that was the case, why would anyone still sign to a major .

I guess everybody who opens up a hot dog and pork and bean restaurant gonna expand their franchise to McDonald's status also, huh.

You have more creative control on an indy and you make more off of your albums

If you're on a major label, you have more exposure/bigger push and will likely be able to demand more $ for shows, more endorsements, and movie roles.

It all depends on how you perceive your career. If you have the skills/charisma/image to as big an artist as Kanye/Jay Z/Drake/Weezy, etc then it's definitely better to sign to a major.

Someone like B.G.(after Cash Money days), Cormega, Jim Jones, Saigon, etc is better being on an indy b/c they won't sell much on a major and will end up owing the record label $ after they recoup the advance.

 

[MallyG]

This thread was HILARIOUS! LMAO!!!

From BackInWhite, Usmarin3, to Maalik, y'all had ya folk rollin'.

 

[Knives Amilli]

Ima say this....

FOH with that Cole is trying to appeal to a mos def, common, talib kweli, nas crowd. Do you really think those niggas put out music with the intent of "Let me put out this CD thats only going to appeal to about oh 1/16th of the casual market, go double cotton swab, but will be critically acclaimed". Fuck no. Those nigga were trying their best to sell records just as much as Jay, Lil wayne or whoever.

My overall point is that you don't try to create a small but dedicated fanbase. The music does that for you. But first, the music has to be released.

 

[BackInWhite]

Ima say this....

FOH with that Cole is trying to appeal to a mos def, common, talib kweli, nas crowd. Do you really think those niggas put out music with the intent of "Let me put out this CD thats only going to appeal to about oh 1/16th of the casual market, go double cotton swab, but will be critically acclaimed". Fuck no. Those nigga were trying their best to sell records just as much as Jay, Lil wayne or whoever.

My overall point is that you don't try to create a small but dedicated fanbase. The music does that for you. But first, the music has to be released.

of course they don't
let usmarine tell it that's what cole is trying to do
he wants to flop and have a career like curren$y
curren$y's cool and makin his money
but you think that nigga dont wanna sell out msg?
you think that nigga don't want no plaques?
who the fuck is rappin just to move from rappin for friends and family to rappin for friends and family in a bigger room?

 

[JadaRoss]

j.cole=papoose

 

[ShencotheMC]

LMAO at one of the tags being "nigger fight".....lol

but naw...that dude aint gonna blow, his spot been taken, he gonna have to either bring 50 cent 2003 heat of go head hunting,plain and simple

Who took his spot?

 

[antarticp]

of course they don't

let usmarine tell it that's what cole is trying to do

he wants to flop and have a career like curren$y

curren$y's cool and makin his money

but you think that nigga dont wanna sell out msg?

you think that nigga don't want no plaques?

who the fuck is rappin just to move from rappin for friends and family to rappin for friends and family in a bigger room?

lol funny but very true ... since 50 and jay did big #'s there aint an artist that has come after them that wouldnt want to hit them #'s even niggaz like dead prez wanna move major units ... its just some arent willing to sacrifice thier art to do them numbers .. but if they could they would def love to hit plat diamond #'s ....

 

[antarticp]

@ the end of the day J Cole had a hit .. IN THE MORNIN ... he didnt drop it ... but i think it was strategic ... cause if he did drop that like how he dropped WHO DAT .... people would keep wanting IN THE MORNINGs from him like hes drake or something ... listening to his "body of work" 50 cent voice lol .... IN THE MORNINGs dont seem to be the tracks hes out to make ...... but thats just my observation .... he didnt want to get boxed in early ...... cause IN THE MORNING would of got dude in the building if he dropped it as a single wit all the marketing money behind it like he did WHO DAT .......... either he fucked up on it .... or he just didnt want to go that route so early in his career .......

 

[ShencotheMC]

Drake, Wiz, All dem young gay dudes out west, dem young money cats that gonna drop this year....his spot is crowded, he gotta go after dem dudes like ross had to merk jezzy to claim the trap rapper spot

Really? No no, really?

 

[lamontbdc]

@ the end of the day J Cole had a hit .. IN THE MORNIN ... he didnt drop it ... but i think it was strategic ... cause if he did drop that like how he dropped WHO DAT .... people would keep wanting IN THE MORNINGs from him like hes drake or something ... listening to his "body of work" 50 cent voice lol .... IN THE MORNINGs dont seem to be the tracks hes out to make ...... but thats just my observation .... he didnt want to get boxed in early ...... cause IN THE MORNING would of got dude in the building if he dropped it as a single wit all the marketing money behind it like he did WHO DAT .......... either he fucked up on it .... or he just didnt want to go that route so early in his career .......

I feel you but in today's game it's better to be boxed in then be outside living out of box. In order to get some radio blow he's gonna have to drop a radio friendly track catered toward the females. If you got that already with Drake on the track then you might as well push that. Made a video and shit might aswell give it a major push. Can we name any recent hits that weren't on some female or hit the club type of shit that came from a new comer that got major burn? And after you get more radio play, more interviews, and more chances to get your shit heard you drop some other singles that you feel better represent your message.

 

[thetruth391]

he never impressed me anyways so i dont really have a say in the matter

but didnt he just come out with friday night lights?

 

[peagle05]

@ this thread

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

Ima say this....

FOH with that Cole is trying to appeal to a mos def, common, talib kweli, nas crowd. Do you really think those niggas put out music with the intent of "Let me put out this CD thats only going to appeal to about oh 1/16th of the casual market, go double cotton swab, but will be critically acclaimed". Fuck no. Those nigga were trying their best to sell records just as much as Jay, Lil wayne or whoever.

My overall point is that you don't try to create a small but dedicated fanbase. The music does that for you. But first, the music has to be released.

Nas does it on purpose. He could easily get J Blaze, Kayne, Dre, Premo, Large Professor, Pete Rock etc. to make beats and people would buy it just because. He just chooses not to for whatever reason. I.e. "Making hits is easy, put a famous bitch on the hook, there you go with a platinum cd." or "Y'all can keep your weak beats from your corny producers."

The rest of them just make what they view as real music. If people buy it, good, if they don't, oh well. Most of them are part-time actors anyways. Also, Talib is the only one who doesn't sell well. Every time Mos drops he goes around 200k on an indie, Common goes around gold, and Nas goes gold or platinum.

j.cole=papoose

Career-wise, cosign. Skill-wise, HELL NO! Papoose is way better than average Cole.

he never impressed me anyways so i dont really have a say in the matter

but didnt he just come out with friday night lights?

This.

 

[Food & Liquor]

Apparently he's supporting Tinie Tempah over here in the UK in November as a special guest... actually makes me want to go see it. Knowing my luck it'll sell out as soon as I can afford to buy it; I missed out on going to see him with Drake just as I went to buy it.

I think it's fair enough that he's trying to build a fanbase but I don't know, I hope he just gets on with making some material. He's said for a while he's been waiting for the right track for Jay-Z to feature on and I think if he had that extra spark he might be able to create one where the pair can rap whilst having that wow about it. The problem is that it's taking a long time.

Either way, I hope whatever he releases turns out to be good. I'll wait.

 

[#1 pick]

See, you the type of nigga who wants everybody to do what you doing. Think cause you wanna be a whatver every other nigga wanna be a whatever. You gone get you a nice job. And you gon marry you a light skinned woman with a high paying office job. And ya'll gon drink coffee in the morning and give each snooches on the cheek. Your wife gon be fuckin the marketing exec at her job later down the line. And she gon move out, and let you keep the Infiniti. You gon come home from work everyday, loosen up your tie, and watch channel 32. And you gon go to bars to drink away your life. End up involved with a whore from Plato, Texas. Give up your good job to do some fuck ass shit with her

Oh shit.....

[video=youtube;np_ajGU42I0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np_ajGU42I0[/video]

 

[MC The Rapper]

WTH Happened in this Thread????

everything happened in this thread

 

[MC The Rapper]

I see that but damn.... i ALWAYS MISS IT!!

i apologize for calling you a lesbian and saying your mom should have shallowed you in advance and if you keep working on ya rapping you can be real decent