yeah i rap so don't
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usmarin3;4407616 said:yeah i rap so don't ;4407583 said:usmarin3;4407535 said:yeah i rap so don't ;4407492 said:usmarin3;4407434 said:buttuh_b;4406686 said:usmarin3;4406630 said:CoolJoe;4406549 said:usmarin3;4406413 said:should be a good collabo, they will balance each other out imo. As superlyrical as some of you people might think Kendrick is over J Cole, J Cole is easilly the better artist and have more range beyond a underground sound. Ya'll acting like J Cole can't spit, like he wasn't getting off on The Come Up, The Warm Up and FNL. Sideline Story was just to make sure he didn't put up Joe Budden type sales, you can't hit the consumers over the head with nerd raps all the way on the album.
Section.80 is better than anything Cole has ever put out, so exactly how is Cole "easily" the better artist?
The Warm Up is right up there with Section 80 imo. The reason why J Cole is a better artist is because he can do the underground lyrical (as seen on his mixtapes) and he can do the commercial records. He is easily a better song writer than Kendrick imo, what has Kendrick done other than show he is a mixtape and underground rapper?
First of all, no @ bolded.
Second of all, what did J. Cole do to show that he wasn't just a mixtape and underground rapper prior to his major label debut? Kendrick is just now starting to make a commercial push so it's too early to say that.
I told you 2 years ago that Kendrick was nicer than Cole before anyone knew who he was. Now I doubt everyone in this thread is delusional. Kendrick is a better lyricist, technical rapper, has more different flows, better production, more creative, non-redundant topics (unlike Cole), better stage show (I've seen them both), and he got his buzz without a cosign. Cole is NOT a better songwriter than Kendrick.
You can put Kendrick Lamar EP OOORRR Overly Dedicated OOORRR Section.80 against ANY project that J. Cole released and they're all shitting on his shit.
Yo marin3 you know how you always loved to bring up the college demographic, touring, and artist development shit when talking about Cole? That's exactly what Lamar is on right now. I'm in college and Kendrick did a packed show at my school 3 days ago.. I saw a crowd full of attractive girls that were singing along with all his lyrics. Just WAIT.
Kendrick Lamar will be commercially successful without making wack songs like Work Out.
What did J Cole do to show he wasn't just a mixtape rapper, lets see. He put out a mixtape that manage to cross over into the mainstream with FNL, IN THE MORNING happened to turn into a hit record on the radio, he developed a fanbase beyond underground hiphop fans all with his FNL mixtape. I mean seriously, who the fuck is checking for Kendrick Lamar beyond back pack and underground fans, have you ever in your life heard a mainstream music fan checking for Kendrick Lamar?
I agree Kendrick is a better lyricist, but being a grear lyricist don't really mean shit when it comes to being a complete artist, word to Joe Budden, Ras Kas, Canibus, and all them other superlyrical rapping ass niggas. If you can't construct songs and make music outside your comfort zone then you're just another mixtape rapper who can't make records.
When Kendrick puts out his debut album and it puts up piss poor numbers you will get this in your thick skull. Bitches ain't checking for that nigga and the typical music lover ain't checking for none of that super rapping shit. Tell that nigga to stop rapping on those Enya beats with his old man voice.
Since when do women dictate what quality music is? When do sales dictate what quality music is? Have you heard his projects or are you trolling?
I didn't say women dictate music, but women are the taste makers of what's hot typically and it's the average none die hard hiphop fans who buy music. You don't sell gold or platinum off die hard hiphop fans alone.
Sales is a direct result of quality, but it's a indicator of your impact. If you don't think sales matter then how do you explain Pac, Jay, Big, Nas, Outkast legacy compared to niggas like Ras Kass, AZ,etc.
I have Section 80 and O.D. on my itunes, what i am saying is K Dot's music won't reach outside the niche audience of hiphop. Dude hasn't shown any indication that he is commercially viable at all.
Why would you give a fuck? When you listen to music do you wonder who else likes it? Who cares what other people like.Women listen to music with their vagina for the most part. They'll find a guy attractive or his voice attractive and like the music no matter how bad it is. They'll listen to simple melodies as long as it gets drummed into their skull a dozen times at the club. You really believe they are indicators of good music? Sales matter to the labels who have them signed and for the artist to leverage bigger show and feature money. Does not have shit to do with how good the music is. Why are you making an argument with invalid points? You seem to just be typing just to type bro.
You mad nigga!
The only people that says sales don't matter are people who don't sell. They're usually the first ones bitching about how the label didn't promote them too, but why does promotion matter if sales don't matter.
All the great rappers have had a female fanbase too, you can't just dismiss womens contribution. Pac had the bitches, so did Jay, so did Big,etc and it's not for none of those superficial reason's you name either.
I'm not mad, you're just dumb as fuck.
