Ivy student carries mattress everywhere after ‘rapist’ isn’t expelled

[playmaker88]

Thats fucking stupid ,fucked up she didnt get justice but what happens if it happened on a bus

 

[DarcSkies]

The fact that multiple women who dont know each other are saying the same thing makes me think something defiantly happened.

HOWEVER, Im sick of these articles minus details. The defiantly of rape these days is, "whatever the female says it is."

So how the hell do we know she just wasnt drunk and when she sobered up and realized he was bragging to all his friends she decided she was "raped" because she now felt "like a slut." And before somebody says I just invented that shit this actually happened on a college campus before. George Will wrote an article about it and got his ass lit up for speaking the truth.

These articles are written in a way that implies that we should take it as a foregone conclusion she was raped because of the dramatics she's going through to say as such.

If I walk around with a cumrag in my pocket and say it's the one I used to wipe my dick after I fucked Meagan Good after her husband's church service it dont mean it actually happened.

That said...I believe the bitch was raped. All them hoes aint lying on him. Kill him with fire.

 

[Viktor]

Lol seriously shorty, they dont give a fuck about you carrying a mattress as protest. Shorties I know would have that dude set up and gotten his shit pushed in.

 

[7figz]

One of the comments said something like "Good, maybe carrying that mattress around will give her the upper body strength to prevent her future rapes".

Pure fuckin' ether.

 

[playmaker88]

The fact that multiple women who dont know each other are saying the same thing makes me think something defiantly happened.

HOWEVER, Im sick of these articles minus details. The defiantly of rape these days is, "whatever the female says it is."

So how the hell do we know she just wasnt drunk and when she sobered up and realized he was bragging to all his friends she decided she was "raped" because she now felt "like a slut." And before somebody says I just invented that shit this actually happened on a college campus before. George Will wrote an article about it and got his ass lit up for speaking the truth.

These articles are written in a way that implies that we should take it as a foregone conclusion she was raped because of the dramatics she's going through to say as such.

If I walk around with a cumrag in my pocket and say it's the one I used to wipe my dick after I fucked Meagan Good after her husband's church service it dont mean it actually happened.

That said...I believe the bitch was raped. All them hoes aint lying on him. Kill him with fire.

Imma just pretend this didnt happen

 

[deadeye]

NPR had an article on something like this earlier this morning.

Basically, saying that some of the accused men were suing their respective schools because they weren't given due process.
http://www.npr.org/2014/09/03/34531...against-them?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=news

After years of criticism for being too lax on campus sexual assault, some colleges and universities are coming under fire from students who say the current crackdown on perpetrators has gone too far.

Dozens of students who've been punished for sexual assault are suing their schools, saying that they didn't get a fair hearing and that their rights to due process were violated. The accused students say schools simply are overcorrecting.

More than 70 campuses are under federal investigation for violating the civil rights of alleged victims, and some students say schools are running so scared that they're violating the due process rights of defendants instead.

"Right from the start, they treated me like I was the scum of the earth," says one young man, who was a sophomore at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst this past fall when he was told he was being investigated for sexual misconduct — and had just hours to move out of his dorm.

It started at a party. He says a classmate invited him to her room, asked him to bring a condom, texted her girlfriends about it, gave no signs of being drunk and repeatedly indicated that she wanted to have sex.

So, he says, they did.

"Then we kissed and fooled around for a few more hours, and then eventually she told me her roommate was coming back at some point and that I should leave, but that she had a lot of fun," he says.

In her version of events, according to a university report, she started to "freak out" shortly after he left. She began to feel pain throughout her body, and realized that something had happened, but she didn't know what. She told the school she had been drinking and had no memory of most of the night — until a day later when she remembered "him having sex with me and holding me down."

She told a friend, who told a dorm adviser, and two days later the school launched an investigation that he says was rigged from the start.

"They were going through the motions," he says. "I felt like I was just trapped in the tidal wave."

Dark Days

This student is one of several dozen now suing. He filed as John Doe, fearing damage to his reputation, and agreed to talk on condition of anonymity. The lawsuit identifies the victim as Jane Doe.

In his complaint, the male student alleges that the hearing process was inherently biased against men, and violated Title IX by denying his rights to equal protection. The university, he says, withheld information he needed for his defense, and wouldn't let him have an attorney to speak for him.

He says he was grilled by a hearing board that he says was hostile and poorly trained. The panel ruled against him and he was expelled, which he says was emotionally devastating.

"I had some dark days," he says. "It's hard, you know? It hurts down to your bones."

UMass Amherst officials won't comment on pending litigation, but they say that due process for all parties is "central" to their procedures, and that all board members are trained thoroughly.

Columbia, Williams, Vassar, Brown and other schools being sued by students who say they were victims of a rush to judgment haven't commented, either.

Universities Are 'Jittery'

Attorney Andrew Miltenberg, who represents about a dozen men suing their schools, says UMass Amherst officials knew that the school was being investigated by the federal government, and they were desperate to prove it was not soft on sexual assault.

"I think 'witch hunt' is a dramatic phrase, but I would tell a group of young men right now, 'woe is to you if someone makes an allegation,' " Miltenberg says. "This young man was in the wrong place at the wrong time, in the sense that there was an attempt by the university officials to say, 'Oh, yeah? Well, watch how we do this one!' "

Some rush to judgment is inevitable, says Robert Dana, dean of students at the University of Maine, speaking generally about the current climate on campuses.

"I expect that that can't help but be true," he says. "Colleges and universities are getting very jittery about it."

But to some, the growing number of lawsuits against universities only goes to show that school administrators should not be in the business of playing detective, judge or jury in the first place.

"Colleges need to understand their limitations," says Robert Shibley of the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education. "When it comes to felony crimes, that should be the task of law enforcement."

Victims may be more comfortable taking a complaint to school administrators than to the police, Shibley says, but if the criminal justice system is seen as re-traumatizing or otherwise failing, then the answer should be to fix the criminal justice system, not to make schools do the job.

Shibley says going through the courts would guarantee accused students basic protections, including the right to have an attorney and to cross-examine their accusers.

On campus, he says, accused students effectively are presumed guilty; instead of requiring accusers to prove they were assaulted, the accused students have to prove they had consent.

It's also troubling, he says, that on campus, cases hinge on the very lowest standard of proof — "preponderance of the evidence" — which Shibley calls little more than a "hunch" that a person is guilty.

Still, he concedes, it's not easy to rally support these days for accused perpetrators.

Students Are 'Deluding Themselves'

Attorney Colby Bruno, who represents victims, says that just because a lot of young men are suing their schools doesn't mean the process is actually unfair — only that it suggests some students are having trouble adjusting to the changing norms on campus sexual assault.

"I don't have sympathy for the guy who assaults somebody and thinks he's been railroaded," Bruno says. "The cases where students are deluding themselves into thinking that what they did wasn't rape and sexual assault? I think those are 85 percent of boys coming forward saying, 'I was railroaded.' "

While numbers are hard to come by, she says there are still far more perpetrators getting away with a slap on the wrist than innocent students being wrongly expelled. She says false accusations are rare; far more often, real crimes go unreported.

Annie Clark, a student survivor turned activist, says everyone wants the process to be fair. But, she says, more due process doesn't automatically advance the cause of justice.

For example, she says, giving alleged assailants the right to cross-examine alleged victims would make victims even more reluctant to report assaults.

"If a survivor is told that they would have to face their rapist, and that person would be allowed to interrogate them, that could absolutely have a chilling effect," Clark says.

Ultimately, the courts will weigh the costs and benefits of more due process and decide whether schools have struck the right balance. With all the cases now pending, experts say the answer may well be "it depends."

For example, a student accused of misconduct, who might only be required to change dorms, may be entitled to less due process than someone facing the more severe punishment of expulsion — which might permanently mar his record and impact his life.

In other words, higher stakes would demand greater protections.

 

[Ol Jay's]

this nigga Darc comes off as having a few legitimate rapes under his belt

 

[obnoxiouslyfresh]

Everyone should chant "rapist" every time he walks in the cafeteria.

 

[DarcSkies]

this nigga Darc comes off as having a few legitimate rapes under his belt

 

[VulcanRaven]

So there is no proof of rape? She should have went straight to the hospital, called the cops and let them do a rape kit.Why did she even tell the school first?

 

[So ILL]

Meanwhile, some homeless nigga is sleeping on the sidewalk. But she can carry a whole mattress around in protest. An entire mattress, nigga!

 

[D0wn]

It dont seem like she got raped, she said it so casually, like she ordering burgers and fries. "Let me get the #2, with the meduim soda, onion rings, and i got raped."

What?

May b she got over it , which is fucked Up. cause even if she did, move on, the emotional scars are still there. And thats no way to live.

Rape aint no joke. Niggas got jump offs, girl friends, wives, aunt, sisters, moms...

Guys shouldn't be joking about it,And women shouldn't b yelling wolf either. women who yell wolf, need to do 3-5, 3 years minimum.

 

[LUClEN]

No pity

 

[obnoxiouslyfresh]

It dont seem like she got raped, she said it so casually, like she ordering burgers and fries. "Let me get the #2, with the meduim soda, onion rings, and i got raped."

What?

May b she got over it , which is fucked Up. cause even if she did, move on, the emotional scars are still there. And thats no way to live.

Rape aint no joke. Niggas got jump offs, girl friends, wives, aunt, sisters, moms...

Guys shouldn't be joking about it,And women shouldn't b yelling wolf either. women who yell wolf, need to do 3-5, 3 years minimum.

Nah she aint lying. Aint nobody lugging around no big ass mattress around campus unless they are very passionate and serious about the statement they feel they're making... & college is that time in your life where the dumbest shit makes you feel like you took a stand.

I was in college during hurricane Katrina and my dumb ass slept outside in a tent during a thunderstorm so I could understand the suffering of the flood victims. In my mind, I was raising awareness of the urgent need of resources and the failure to provide emergency services to those victims. So I SLEPT OUTSIDE in a TENT during a THUNDERSTORM. I need you to process how dumb as hell that is. This girl aint lying. She's gonna get an A on her project tho.

 

[Maximus Rex]

First of all I have to give ole girl props that she actually has the courage to face scrutiny after having such a horrendous violation of her person. Second (unlike most bitches and their supposed raped allegations,) this chick isn't hurling allegations while hiding behind the cloak of anonymity, which has me inclined to believe that something may have happened. With that being said, it is an alleged allegation and niggas shouldn't be expelled from school, (thereby missing on vital class assignments,) simply on a chick's word because she's feeling some kinda way behind a sexual tryst.

Instead of blaming Columbia, blame chicks who file false rape charges and the feminists that support them. If women didn't lie about this shit so much, then question of dude's innocence wouldn't be in question.

Guys shouldn't be joking about it,And women shouldn't b yelling wolf either. women

who yell wolf, need to do 3-5, 3 years minimum.

Rex will stop joking about it when, women stop lying about it. How in the fuck am I as a man, suppose to take rape seriously when the very people are the victims of this most heinous of crimes don't? Off topic, can a woman achieve an orgasm while she's being raped?

 

[D. Morgan]

First of all I have to give ole girl props that she actually has the courage to face scrutiny after having such a horrendous violation of her person. Second (unlike most bitches and their supposed raped allegations,) this chick isn't hurling allegations while hiding behind the cloak of anonymity, which has me inclined to believe that something may have happened. With that being said, it is an alleged allegation and niggas shouldn't be expelled from school, (thereby missing on vital class assignments,) simply on a chick's word because she's feeling some kinda way behind a sexual tryst.

Instead of blaming Columbia, blame chicks who file false rape charges and the feminists that support them. If women didn't lie about this shit so much, then question of dude's innocence wouldn't be in question.

Guys shouldn't be joking about it,And women shouldn't b yelling wolf either. women

who yell wolf, need to do 3-5, 3 years minimum.

Rex will stop joking about it when, women stop lying about it. How in the fuck am I as a man, suppose to take rape seriously when the very people are the victims of this most heinous of crimes don't? Off topic, can a woman achieve an orgasm while she's being raped?

According to law & order svu she sure can

 

[deadeye]

So there is no proof of rape? She should have went straight to the hospital, called the cops and let them do a rape kit.Why did she even tell the school first?

That's what I don't understand.

If you're a victim of a crime on a college campus, then it's best to call the police.....not the campus police....but the police.

Campus police don't necessarily have your best interests at heart.

They're mainly looking after the University more than anything....and the University's interests may or may not coincide with your own.

 

[deadeye]

So there is no proof of rape? She should have went straight to the hospital, called the cops and let them do a rape kit.Why did she even tell the school first?

That's what I don't understand.

If you're a victim of a crime on a college campus, then it's best to call the police.....not the campus police....but the police.

Campus police don't necessarily have your best interests at heart.

They're mainly looking after the University more than anything....and the University's interests might or might not coincide with your own.

 

[blacktux]

Till these chicks start going in and getting their pussy looked at for signs of trauma this shit need to stop.

Just a bunch of hoes being ashamed of what they did and looking for sympathy.

They on some "boy cried wolf" shit and are slowly desensitizing people to rape and how serious of an issue rape is. A dude that fucks you while you are drunk didnt rape you.

 

[playmaker88]

:-<