It’s time to stop talking about racism with white people

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This is why I submit that black people should simply disengage with white America in discussions about race altogether. Let them have their little Klan-esque chats in the Yahoo and USA Today comment sections. We need to stop arguing with them because, in the end, they aren’t invested like we are. They aren’t paying attention to these stories out of fear for their lives and the lives of their children and spouses; they are only tuned in out of black and brown contempt. This is trivial to them, a contest to see who can be the most smug, condescending and dismissive. When black people debate these issues, we do so passionately — not always articulately, and often without a whole lot of depth to our arguments — but we always come from a place of genuine frustration, outrage and fear. When most white people debate the very same issues from an opposing stance, they do so from a place of perpetual obtuseness and indifference. Their arguments always seem to boil down to “If it isn’t my experience, it couldn’t possibly be yours.” Even “well meaning” white folks tend to center themselves in the discussion (#NotAllWhitePeople #IDontSeeColor). Yes, there are plenty of white people who aren’t racist, who think shouting “Blue Lives Matter” is wrong, who truly do wish things would change. But the fact is, they figuratively and literally have no skin in the game.

I understand that white people are mad. They’ve gone their whole lives being the default for social and cultural normalcy and never really had to think critically about race at all. Now a black first lady addresses the nation, and she talks about slavery. Now social media identifies and challenges their micro-aggressions. They’re getting the tint snatched off of their rose-colored glasses; that “Shining City on the Hill” they know as America is starting to lose some of its gloss. And they ain’t here for that — but we are.

[White people think racism is getting worse — against white people]

So we need to let them cry. Let them gripe about how white is the new black and they are now the true victims of racism because their black co-workers don’t invite them to lunch or some black guy on the train called them a cracker or because black people on the interwebs hurt feelings. (How nice it must be to have the option of simply logging off of your oppression.) We need to let them cry. And we need to learn how to just sit our intellectual selves back and enjoy it.

When Rachel Dolezal got her counterfeit black card snatched, we struck comedy gold for black meme-makers all over the web. The “Ask Rachel” hashtag was born, and scrolling through your Black Twitter feed became something like running a marathon, only the people on the sidelines were handing out little paper cups filled with white tears instead of regular drinking water. But instead of enjoying ourselves, far too many of us were arguing with smug white people about why this is completely different from Caitlyn Jenner and why this doesn’t, in any way, make “black privilege” a thing.

When Beyoncé released the video for “Formation,” featuring a black kid in a hoodie, a “hands up, don’t shoot” banner and a sinking police car — then performed the song while paying homage to the Black Panther Party smack in the face of white America during the Super Bowl halftime show — she provided us with a bottomless open bar of white tears. But instead of getting good and drunk like we should’ve, too many of us were arguing with white folks about why nothing she did was racist, “reverse racist” or anti-cop. We should’ve just taken the win and left the field.

[What white people can do to help Black Lives Matter]

During the Republican National Convention, Melania Trump plagiarized a chunk of a Michelle Obama speech. And a lot of you were out here arguing with Trump supporters and other assorted delusional white folks who had the audacity to claim there was never any plagiarism at all. What you should’ve been doing was joining me, Jesse Williams and our beloved Black Twitter in intentionally misattributing black quotes to Mrs. Trump because it was fun.

I had a field day:

“Until you do right by me, everything you even think about gonna crumble” – Melania Trump

“When he f— me good I take his ass to Red Lobster, cuz I slay” – Melania Trump

If Colin Kaepernik’s decision to stand against social injustice by sitting during the National Anthem has shown us anything else, it’s that much of white America is more bothered by our methods of protest than they ever will be about the injustices we’re protesting. Let’s dispel the notion that if we only protested better, white people will miraculously become more receptive of our message and less scornful of our audacity in speaking out.

The fact is, we can fight systemic racism without white validation. We can continue shutting down bridges and highways every time there’s a new Alton Sterling, Philando Castile or Korryn Gaines in the news and let white folks complain about the intrusion on their lives. We can continue moving our black dollars into black banks and keeping our money in our businesses and communities. We don’t need them to “get it” for us to keep fighting.

And likewise, white people who truly want to be allies can find their path to ally-ship without black validation and without us having to take time out of our days to educate them. They can find their own curriculum and figure out for themselves how they can do their part in fighting the good fight. And they can do it without the promise of black praise. And, I’m not about to keep checking to see if they’re doing that much. Because it’s not my job – and it’s not yours, either.

Black people, it is long past time for us to start practicing self-care. And if that means completely disengaging with white America altogether, then so be it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/post...ism-with-white-people/?utm_term=.01e43545d8b5
 
Best article I've read in a long time. This sums it up to a tee. The majority of white ppl are so privileged being white, they really don't give half a fuck about our struggles. The ONLY thing they care about is losing that privilege. Which Is why Donald Trump resonates with them so much, or why they are so threatened by Obama, a black man, who's president of the their country. The police PROTECT their privilege. This is why they support cops even when cops are CLEARLY guilty. How can you have a legitimate conversation with someone who don't care about you out your struggles
 
Sums up my beliefs.

Waste of energy arguing with idiots

Look how quickly additional protections for police (Blue Lives Matter bills) were codified.

We on our own, as it should be
 
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Yea if we ain't talking bout reparations to right amerikkkas wrongs then their is nothing to talk about because racism will never die in this country
 
I stopped a long time ago. No sense in arguing w/ people who can't or don't even want to try understand my reality vs theirs.
 
Great article. We seem to have bought into the idea that we need to assimilate to a country and system that disregards our lives. Not only that, we've been brainwashed into believing their fashion is better, their music and art is more valuable, their women are better than ours, etc. We've drank the cool aid so much that we've become addicted to the cyanide. Fuck white people period. Not some, not many. Fuck all of them
 
It's one of the main reasons I do not have a Facebook, I do not have the patience for ignorance.
 
En-Fuego22;9334119 said:
When and where are white people losing privilege ?

Losing their privilege to being a savage to other ethnicities. It's like it's their divine right to be a savage in this world.
 
Ajackson17;9335106 said:
En-Fuego22;9334119 said:
When and where are white people losing privilege ?

Losing their privilege to being a savage to other ethnicities. It's like it's their divine right to be a savage in this world.

Well, I didn't look at it that way but they still get to dress up as police officer and kill on camera
 
I talk with white people about racism if the opportunity presents itself, as long as the convo can remain respectful on their part. I feel like if I have a problem with someone's thought process and they are legit interested in engaging in a conversation about it, it's kinda my duty to try to make it clear to them why they have their head up their ass. If I don't do that, me complaining about them having their had up their ass doesn't really mean much.

The key is understanding the difference between the ignorant and the WILLFULLY ignorant. You gotta not engage with the willfully ignorant, because it's a waste of time and energy. Some don't understand what the fuck is going on out here...some don't WANT to understand what is going on.
 
mryounggun;9335144 said:
I talk with white people about racism if the opportunity presents itself, as long as the convo can remain respectful on their part. I feel like if I have a problem with someone's thought process and they are legit interested in engaging in a conversation about it, it's kinda my duty to try to make it clear to them why they have their head up their ass. If I don't do that, me complaining about them having their had up their ass doesn't really mean much.

The key is understanding the difference between the ignorant and the WILLFULLY ignorant. You gotta not engage with the willfully ignorant, because it's a waste of time and energy. Some don't understand what the fuck is going on out here...some don't WANT to understand what is going on.

This. I get what the article was saying cuz a lot of times....shit WILL be a waste of time. Especially online. But irl I won't be played to the left on some "only minority/black person in the room" having white ppl think they can say any kinda racially slick shit around me and ima let it slide. Even if the convo goes nowhere, at the very least they know not to try me.
 
That's RULE # 1! And if they do, get em on tape, express how uncomfortable it has made the environment, unnecessary duress and press they ass. Had a former director at my last job ( former LAPD Cop too say some bullshit consistently. Bam! Caught his ass on video and had several witnesses. He was my Supv. At the time also. Had him so pressed he almost cried when he found out after I me ruined it to our VP. I even got his APOLOGY on tape. I could have had a lawsuit! But I was leaving that gig and just let him know, u better be careful in the future. Coulda screwed up his new gig and everything. Don't ay the radio withem edomites. Ever, bcuz they ain't gonna play with you if you ever have to get " called on the carpet!"
 

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