Its ill when mc's used to be on cruddy sh*t, took home Ready To Die, listened, study sh*t...

[rapmastermind]

How in the fuck was Jay Big's disciple? Explain this, please.

Big was WAY bigger than Jay when he was alive. They were going to be in the supergroup "The Commission", in that group, Big was Boss not Jay. Big was also the KONY, not Jay. Jay learned from and used Big's album formula's his whole career as well as his lyrics. Jay is Big's Disciple and apart of his family tree. Big's heavy co-sign went a long way in Jay's Career:

Big was featured in Jay Z's 1st two videos on his album when not many people knew who he was.


When performing together, Jay was Big's Hype man.

The Definition of the word "Disciple": A disciple is a follower and student of a mentor, teacher, or other wise figure.

Big was that clearly for Jay.

 

[loch121]

I still don't think Nas got on that money shit til' I Am.

IWW is when he Became Escobar and all that and was on some Street Dreams Willy shit

 

[CoolJoe]

How in the fuck was Jay Big's disciple? Explain this, please.

Big was WAY bigger than Jay when he was alive. They were going to be in the supergroup "The Commission", in that group, Big was Boss not Jay. Big was also the KONY, not Jay. Jay learned from and used Big's album formula's his whole career as well as his lyrics. Jay is Big's Disciple and apart of his family tree. Big's heavy co-sign went a long way in Jay's Career:

Big was featured in Jay Z's 1st two videos on his album when not many people knew who he was.


When performing together, Jay was Big's Hype man.

The Definition of the word "Disciple": A disciple is a follower and student of a mentor, teacher, or other wise figure.

Big was that clearly for Jay.

Reasonable Doubt was nothing like Ready To Die though......

 

[darkrain]

I remember the interview where XXL had making of Reasonable Doubt and Damon and Biggs and some of Jay-Z's friends didn't want him to put Biggie Small on Brooklyn's Finest song cause they don't want everybody to think Jay-Z is desperate to get Biggie Small cause they wanted Jay-Z to be his own man, etc but Jay-Z still wanted Biggie. I can see why everybody don't want it...funny at the same time with his first album, he wanted Nas on it too on his first album.

 

[Idiopathic Joker]

Kane birthed both BIG and Jays style

 

[JokerzWyld]

Lol but Nas rapped about sippin Don P on "The World Is Yours" long before BIG was on his "money" shit. The diss applied to Biggie as well, because "Ready To Die" had a much rougher sound and "Life After Death" was far more polished with upscale mob content.

 

[choppa_style]

I already broke this down on the "Kick In the Door" thread. It was mostly a diss to NaS who switched from Cruddy (ILLmatic) to Money shit (It Was Written). This is why a lot of Eastcoast rappers where hating on Big at the time, he was able to still have Street Cred cause he dropped the gutter joints like "Warning, Who Shot Ya, Unbelievable" and mixed them with club tracks like "One More Chance, Big Poppa etc" So some NYC Rappers just couldn't understand how he had the streets and mainstream on lock. They talked shit and then followed his blueprint. Big=Balance, something Jay and NaS and tons of other rappers learned from.

Nas need to relearn that shit then 'cuz his "pop" tracks are garbage.

 

[melanated khemist]

LOL big bit both of them and a buch of other people it is a reverse psych line[/quote

^^^basically. i dont recall ready to die being on some money shit

 

[SlickestR]

Kane birthed both BIG and Jays style

and Wayne's.

 

[yeah i rap so don't]

Dre did one song on that album. Maybe he did two

California Love and Can't C Me

I always figured it was a shot to 2pac because of the completely different styles from his early albums to All Eyez On Me

Not a shot at Pac cause it was Puff along with Pac why Big even gave the commercial side of rap a chance. Big was a hip hop head, if it was up to him his whole album would of sounded like Warning. Pac would tell Big to have balance in his songs, this was around the time Pac found a little balance himself after he released "I get around". The only diss Big had against Pac on "Kick in the Door" is when he said his reign on the top was short as he crushed so called "Thugs", that was it. Not a diss to Jay cause he was Big's disciple plus at that point Jay only had "RD" out before Big died.

Lol @ Disciple

That's kick in the door right?Well Primo made it quit clear that that song was without a doubt about Nas.

Big was talking to Premier in his rap when he said "Son I'm surprised you run w/ them cuz they nothing but dicks" because Primo fucked w/ Nas too.

That was about Jeru The Damaja

Not according to Primo.The line before that was Now you on some money shit successful out the blue.Jeru was never on no money shit but, Nas was on It Was Written

Primo was doing Jeru's shit and Biggie told him he was dissing Jeru. That song is dissing Jeru, Nas, Ghostface and Raekwon. Everybody at Bad Boy acknowledges the Jeru disses.