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moedays;5324809 said:Damn, niggaz really mad cuz Nas is better than Jay-z. Either Jay-z is your dad or yall from Marcy Projects.
drunk and high post.
runningwolf1980;5324782 said:all the ic bullshit in the world isnt gonna make nas surpass jay-z....we get it you think nas is "deep"...
locksmith1;5323909 said:Jay is still on top, but I will admit BP3 wasn't a good album. However, Jay bounce back with Ye on WTT. The GOAT still dropping hits and selling out arenas.
runningwolf1980;5324782 said:all the ic bullshit in the world isnt gonna make nas surpass jay-z's bank account and business acumen....we get it you think nas is "deep"...
IceBergTaylor;5324745 said:When did Jay said Vol. 1 was his worst? This is brand spanking new news to me.
starvin;5324957 said:runningwolf1980;5324782 said:all the ic bullshit in the world isnt gonna make nas surpass jay-z....we get it you think nas is "deep"...
He doesnt need to "surpass" him, he's going down in history as one of the goats.
Disciplined InSight;5325051 said:runningwolf1980;5324782 said:all the ic bullshit in the world isnt gonna make nas surpass jay-z's bank account and business acumen....we get it you think nas is "deep"...
Fixed for accuracy..that's what you really meant.
moedays;5324809 said:Damn, niggaz really mad cuz Nas is better than Jay-z. Either Jay-z is your dad or yall from Marcy Projects.
drunk and high post.
runningwolf1980;5325099 said:Disciplined InSight;5325051 said:runningwolf1980;5324782 said:all the ic bullshit in the world isnt gonna make nas surpass jay-z's bank account and business acumen....we get it you think nas is "deep"...
Fixed for accuracy..that's what you really meant.
thats not what i meant at all...i dont listen to whos got the bigger bank account...the fuck i look like an accountant? im simply a 32 year old hip-hop fan that never liked nas..matter fact theres tons of hip-hop act i simply dont like..bottomline
runningwolf1980;5325093 said:starvin;5324957 said:runningwolf1980;5324782 said:all the ic bullshit in the world isnt gonna make nas surpass jay-z....we get it you think nas is "deep"...
He doesnt need to "surpass" him, he's going down in history as one of the goats.
this "goat" term is relative...i dont give two fucks about nas...tbh he bores the shit outta me. and as long as there folks like me that "goat" bullshit only applies to his fans...again i get it "some people like nas"
nujerz84;5325335 said:Jay been garbage since coming back from retirement..and fell off lyrically big time (he was overrated in that aspect anyway)
nex gin;5326777 said:Admittedly Jay has declined lyrically but I'm not sure what the rest of this neck rolling and finger snapping shit is about.
Jay still that dude and will go down in history as one of the GOAT
Nas still that dude and will go down in history as one of the GOAT
Fuck record sells...........bringing up both of their record sales, commercial hits, how many shows sold out and business ventures has never been a reliable indicator of musical talent.
starvin;5324957 said:runningwolf1980;5324782 said:all the ic bullshit in the world isnt gonna make nas surpass jay-z....we get it you think nas is "deep"...
He doesnt need to "surpass" him, he's going down in history as one of the goats.
CirocObama;5311344 said:usmarin3;5311039 said:The reason why jay has been more successful than them washed 90s niggas is because he switched up hid sound and never limited himself to dusty boom nap back packers. Niggas likeNas marginalized their audience and pigeonholed themselves. That's why when Nas makes singles with Chris Brown, Kerry Hilson,etc itdoesnt work.
Not true. Jay-Z's business moves and his relationship with Beyonce gave his brand waaaaay more relevancy than he would've had by now. Jay-Z is a brand his name alone will sell records. He gained alot more female fans and Beyonce fans when he hooked up with her too. Same thing with Swizz when he got with Alicia. Not that it's a bad thing but don't sit there and act like Jay-Z would've been that popular still if those things didn't happen. That's why Jay-Z can be gone for 5 years without dropping albums and still remain "out there" and still do big shows. It's not cuz of his music per se.
Funny tho how relevancy is measured in popularity. A rapper is irrelevant to me when i'm no longer interested in his music or what he has to say, not cuz he isn't as popular, isn't selling as many records and not trendy anymore.
How can Nas be irrelevant when he dropped prolly the best hip-hop album this year? I loved Hip Hop Is Dead and Nigger too so he always has and always will catch my ear as a fan. He's here strictly based off of his music. Not cuz who he's married with, not cuz of his sponsors, not cuz of his clothing line, not cuz he sold this many records, not cuz of his investments etc. When you think of Nas you think of his music and lyricsm before anything else, so if you call a 20 year career strictly off his music irrelevant while being a true MC who never really did those big numbers anyway then i unno what to tell ya..