It was easier to fake your past in the 90s rap scene than now

[nynicca]

all im saying is that even rappers past back then wasn't 100%. and u know damn well if pac came out within the last 4 years when blogging started becoming popular and was living acting like a killer in his death row days and that picture of him in a tutu came out, yall would be cracking on that nigga saying hes fake. right now theres a video of a nigga i no getting smacked and running on youtube. even though he bust his gun before, now niggas are calling him fake. every body has something that if it was brought to light we would be looked at differently.

 

[nynicca]

if rappers really did what they said, they would be all in jail or least have served a long term like maino in their life. but keep believing they are smooth criminals and dont get caught. and dont give me tyhat nonsence well its ok for the 90s rappers because they said it better. i bet if there was a video of pac getting raped yall would give him a pass saying "YES HE GOT RAPED, BUT DID YOU SEE THE EMOTION HE HAD WHEN HE WAS GETTING IT IN THE BACK"

 

[ShadyTeam]

Ice Cube is from South Central LA born & raised and grew up around Gang Bangers all his life

2pac grew up in harsh poverty, with a mother addicted to crack, grew up all over from the Bronx to Oakland to Marin City and also caught cases for shooting at a police officer, spent time in jail, sold drug's for a short while etc

 

[ShadyTeam]

Paul Wall is the most undercover fake though what the Ill Community doesn't realize is

Paul Wall grew up Mddle Class in a Suburb in Jersey Village, Texas which is a predominantly White populated City, he attended a good College and came from a good backround as far as financially and being raised in an affluent gated home in a Suburb

Paul Wall is making money of black culture and a culture which root's are Inner City poverty

Why y'all think Eminem sold & Paul Wall never??? when Paul was on a big record label was affiliated with Cham too as well as being from the South the region that dominated sales in the 2000's

cos the Hip-Hop community realized Paul Wall was not what he portays in his Music

Everyone obviously knows Eminem grew up in Inner City Detroit which is Americas most dangerous city, grew up in poverty in public housing with a mother who was on welfare and a drug abuser, worked a minimum wage in a pizza restaurant, had a best friend from child hood that was black and had to get his daughter outta the hood since he was a father at a young age

 

[ShadyTeam]

Lets not forget the streets too Eminem unlike most Rap Artists who claim to be Gangster unlike them Eminem has caught cases with the law we all know about the pistol whipping incident when Eminem beat the living day lights out of a club bouncer and almost went to jail for it in 2000 but ended up on a 3 year probation

We also know about the case he caught for pulling out a Gun on Insane Clown Posse's manager

We know about how Eminem chased Insane Club Posse out of a night club and fired paint ball at their Van

We know Eminem had a criminal record from his teens before he ever became famous too

 

[mattee c]

@shadyteam - Could you possibly give Eminem anymore free publicity? God damn...And why are you comparing Paul Wall and Eminem? Honestly, unless you grew up with them, you really don't have any idea how real either one of them are. But I think you're way off trying to make Paul Wall look like a racist. He's married to a black woman and they have a son together, so that doesn't really make sense. And whether or not he's done all that shit, Eminem doesn't even try to come across as hard as you're trying to portray him.

 

[ShadyTeam]

@shadyteam - Could you possibly give Eminem anymore free publicity? God damn...And why are you comparing Paul Wall and Eminem? Honestly, unless you grew up with them, you really don't have any idea how real either one of them are. But I think you're way off trying to make Paul Wall look like a racist. He's married to a black woman and they have a son together, so that doesn't really make sense. And whether or not he's done all that shit, Eminem doesn't even try to come across as hard as you're trying to portray him.

I never once mentioned racism

Paull Wall is probably a nice down to earth guy but the fact is he grew up an Upper Middle Class white dude that later on in life went on to make a living outta Hip-Hop which is about getting poor people out the Hood & Inner City from a poor backround so they can feed their kid's and motivate other poor people in the Hood

Paull Wall didn't need to be a Rapper he never grew up in the enviroment, class, culture, struggle etc

 

[ShadyTeam]

Listen to a Song called Soldier by Eminem that Song is very hard and based on a true story he made that Song from what he lived

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

I love these hurt feelings threads where the Lifeless nobodies in the real world get E-Homotional over the fact there Idols are Phonies and start pulling the revisionist history shit. Quit catching feelings Kiddies You want to live in fantasy land more power to you but do not try and shit on the real to make yourselves feel better about it...

Shit is funny as they try and make up scenerios and ignore the facts that Niggaz were not lying or hiding there Past in the 90's there credentials checked out whether they went and got a education(Ice Cube) Was A Back Up Dancer(2pac) or sold small amounts of Dope to supplement their Income(EazyE) etc. Having a education, being cultured or having a past was something they built off they did not try and Hide their past and shit like todays kats do while they are repping a borrowed fictional dumbed down persona. Keeping it real does not mean being a gangsta it means speaking on what you know, what you believe and who you Really are. But like I said you kiddies getting all homotional because your heroes/man crushes do not meet that real criteria and have carreers made up almost entirely of fantasy, are hilarious...

Not saying there were not Kats faking it back in the day But hey either were quickly exposed and not heard from again or are revered as the archetypes for your favorite Phony rapper of today by you brainwashed Mtv babies...

 

[ShadyTeam]

You getting carried away with saying Eazy E sold small amounts of dope lmao you outta ya mind

Ruthless Records was funded by the money Eazy E made of selling Crack Cocaine in Compton he wasn't a king pin but he was a mid level Crack dealer in his teenage years like Young Jeezy

Eazy E & Young Jeezy probably outta all the Drug dealers turned Rappers made the most from selling drug's before Rap

Eazy E was also a member of a Crip Street Gang

 

[TMonroe]

I really don't understand how Pac's name gets brought up in a thread like this when all you had to do was listen to his interviews and in some of his music and he expdisslains his past. Yall just don't listen and take media shit as face value.

The problem with Pac is, people refuse to acknowledge those things of his past. While they clown other rappers for the very same things. Which isn't fair. Bottom line is, nobody on this board knows any of these rappers personally, to say what they've done in their lives or how real they are. Even the so called gangsters and thugs get caught slippin.

 

[ShadyTeam]

The problem with Pac is, people refuse to acknowledge those things of his past. While they clown other rappers for the very same things. Which isn't fair. Bottom line is, nobody on this board knows any of these rappers personally, to say what they've done in their lives or how real they are. Even the so called gangsters and thugs get caught slippin.

But the fact is

2pac fired shot's at a poice officer

2pac spent years in jail

2pac started selling drug's

2pac had been shot 5 times

 

[TMonroe]

Shit is funny as they try and make up scenerios and ignore the facts that Niggaz were not lying or hiding there Past in the 90's there credentials checked out whether they went and got a education(Ice Cube) Was A Back Up Dancer(2pac) or sold small amounts of Dope to supplement their Income(EazyE) etc. Having a education, being cultured or having a past was something they built off they did not try and Hide their past and shit like todays kats do while they are repping a borrowed fictional dumbed down persona. Keeping it real does not mean being a gangsta it means speaking on what you know, what you believe and who you Really are. But like I said you kiddies getting all homotional because your heroes/man crushes do not meet that real criteria and have carreers made up almost entirely of fantasy, are hilarious...

Not saying there were not Kats faking it back in the day But hey either were quickly exposed and not heard from again or are revered as the archetypes for your favorite Phony rapper of today by you brainwashed Mtv babies...

Exactly, and being gangster doesn't make you real either. It's funny how people attack rappers for being fake or things that happen that change your perception of them, these gangsters get caught slippin too. They ain't superman. There just no cameras around to expose their slip ups.

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

But the fact is

2pac fired shot's at a poice officer

2pac spent years in jail

2pac started selling drug's

2pac had been shot 5 times

Dretox they are not trying to hear that, they are not used to rappers that do not lie about there past and how they are living in there rhymes...

 

[TMonroe]

But the fact is

2pac fired shot's at a poice officer

2pac spent years in jail

2pac started selling drug's

2pac had been shot 5 times

So what, that doesn't make him anymore real than anybody else. The dudes in in my hood have the same story, probably worse. So none of those things prove anything to me. The point is, Pac did the same things these rappers now get dissed for. Pac still went to that art school, he still was a back up dancer (for Digital Underground), and he still had those questionable pictures in the tub with the bubbles. All things he can get called out for. All the things that these rappers today gets clowned for. You guys negate those facts about him.

 

[TMonroe]

dissed

Dretox they are not trying to hear that, they are not used to rappers that do not lie about there past and how they are living in there rhymes...

That's not it at all. You guys are negating the fact, that Pac did the same things a rapper now days would get clowned for. It has nothing to do with lying in your rhymes or keeping it real. Pac wasn't all that real either. He had his slip ups, just like everybody else. The only difference is, back then the internet wasn't as prominent to expose that as it is now.

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

So what, that doesn't make him anymore real than anybody else. The dudes in in my hood have the same story, probably worse. So none of those things prove anything to me. The point is, Pac did the same things these rappers now get dissed for. Pac still went to that art school, he still was a back up dancer (for Digital Underground), and he still had those questionable pictures in the tub with the bubbles. All things he can get called out for. All the things that these rappers today gets clowned for. You guys negate those facts about him.

he never denied going to a school for the arts and that he was a dancer back in the day Mtv made sure that was common Knowledge, the tub pictures were for his female fans not for Homos on his dick. I guess the point of not lying or hiding his past and really doing what he talked about in his Lyrics like standing up against the cops helping his brother etc went over your head. You kats and this revisionist fantasy world want to focus on things and twist them to try and force them to corelate with your twisted perception when in reality they do not. Using Pac or Cube as an example to justify your favorite fake rapper of todays lies or Phoniness just shows how little you know and how foolish you are...

 

[tri3w]

There was alot more Real rappers back then, More than they are now..........

 

[mittenz]

Even though pac did alot of real things whle he was a rapper, with his past he would of been seen as fake today. because of the internet, we

So kids don't act like they weren't any officer rickys, or anything like that back then. rappers been faking it until they made it since day 1

How old are you? Pac was real about his past in EVERY interview. He challenged people to look into his background to see if he wasnt being 100%...There has been endless footage of Pac released at almost every stage of his life. He hid nothing about his past from his audience. Everyone who was into his music back then (caveat: as much as me or any nigga from by block was) knew the whole story cause he gave it to you in almost every interview. His Baltimore story, NY story, Marin City story, etc... he woulda been considered a fake today? Why is he revered by all these rappers today? Cause he made it ok to be yourself!!! Niggas arent ironmen! Even the most hardened gangstas played pop warner football! Nigga he was real cause we knew everything you said about him as a diss! Fans knew that back then! That shit you say about Pac comparing him to Ricky Ross disgusts me. Pac was not known to be a liar and actually shot at cops! Ross is a liar...he lies all the time in his interviews...the time that Pac was trying to approach his listeners and inspire them in interviews...Ricky is promoting a false image of an untouchable don that never went through any hardship! Comparing Pac to Ricky makes me sad for hip hop fans....How can we even hold a decent debate over this when you are saying Pac woulda been seen as fake? When he made it ok to be Real! Niggas were scared to write songs to say they love they mamas before Pac... or to admit they cry! Pac did...he gave a fuck what you thought about his image... Thats why niggas try to imitate a guy who you think would be fake today...

 

[tri3w]

How old are you? Pac was real about his past in EVERY interview. He challenged people to look into his background to see if he wasnt being 100%...There has been endless footage of Pac released at almost every stage of his life. He hid nothing about his past from his audience. Everyone who was into his music back then (caveat: as much as me or any nigga from by block was) knew the whole story cause he gave it to you in almost every interview. His Baltimore story, NY story, Marin City story, etc... he woulda been considered a fake today? Why is he revered by all these rappers today? Cause he made it ok to be yourself!!! Niggas arent ironmen! Even the most hardened gangstas played pop warner football! Nigga he was real cause we knew everything you said about him as a diss! Fans knew that back then! That shit you say about Pac comparing him to Ricky Ross disgusts me. Pac was not known to be a liar and actually shot at cops! Ross is a liar...he lies all the time in his interviews...the time that Pac was trying to approach his listeners and inspire them in interviews...Ricky is promoting a false image of an untouchable don that never went through any hardship! Comparing Pac to Ricky makes me sad for hip hop fans....How can we even hold a decent debate over this when you are saying Pac woulda been seen as fake? When he made it ok to be Real! Niggas were scared to write songs to say they love they mamas before Pac... or to admit they cry! Pac did...he gave a fuck what you thought about his image... Thats why niggas try to imitate a guy who you think would be fake today...

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