It was easier to fake your past in the 90s rap scene than now

[Kwan Dai]

The part you're sorely missing is, they played their part and had talent. Cube might not have been a gang banger however, his contribution to Hip Hop wasn't his ability to shoot a gun. It was his ability to WRTIE rhymes and bring attention to situations that were affecting BLACKS across America. Pac and Biggie were simply PAWNS in the game. Hip Hop was shifting away from INTELLIGENCE, BLACK PRIDE, and TRUE MCING etc. They were stil babies while this shift was occuring so, they pretty much had no choice but to assimulate into the Industry practices. Biggies Sold out from day one. Pac had to strong of a Black Background for him to just Roll over like biggie did. So, he was able to do what Cube did. Write Music that touched Blacks across America. Dr. was and is a producer, No more no less. Onyxy stayed tru to their roots. They made SLAM music with Aggresive Lyrics. Everyone knew the back grounds of these Cats. It's new comers like yourself who aint been put on. SO no there has NEVER BEEN any EX CO's who have gone on to rap about being Cocaine King Pins.

 

[Pretty Fred]

Even though pac did alot of real things whle he was a rapper, with his past he would of been seen as fake today. because of the internet, we would've knew pac was a twinkle toes dancer at 17, can you imagine if biggie prodigy his ass? never lived a street life until he got famous, was a dancer with jada pinkett.

Biggie never was a poor black kid like he described in the song Juicy. Everybody knows his mom spoiled him.

Ice Cube went to a all white gifted high school, and been robbed for his chain in many occasions but most of us didnt know this until the internet or beef dvd.

Dr dre we already know bout his glitter ass.

Onyx were techno house dancers who were far from gangster.

So kids don't act like they weren't any officer rickys, or anything like that back then. rappers been faking it until they made it since day 1

Sorry there wasn't.

 

[tbirdandkoolaid]

1. already knew pac's history. im from the town and i knew his name wasn't ringing out like that. i respected his revolutionary stance. (then again what rapper you know who at the top, came to the aid of another black male, bust a pig in the ass)

'young black male' , 'trapped' and 'soulja's story" some of his best shit.

2. knew cube went to college and wasn't 'rasied' in the sets, once againe respected revolutionary stance.

3. dre, knew he was a borderline fruit loop, made cool beats. i mean he went from saying he didn't smoke, to being all over the chron..hahah

4. the other couldn't care less.

 

[mr.getwitcha]

This makes a lot of sense. People just dont want to accept the fact that their hereos arent as real as they thought they were.

Getwitcha

 

[mattee c]

I basically said the same thing the other day, about the internet, on that "right now is the realest era ever" post. But really, if you dig hard enough, you could find something embarrassing in anyone's past. Nobody came out the wound with a tech 9 smokin a blunt. And it's like somebody else said about Pac, if he hadn't gone to that fine arts school in Baltimore and did all the reading he did, his music would not have been near as good. He would've been another rapper with a limited vocabulary rapping about the same topics over and over. I remember seeing one of those Beef dvd's where they were trying to make Paul Wall look bad because he went to a Christian school. To me, that might be relevant if Paul Wall tried to come across as a satanic rapper or some shit but otherwise, so what. I've never heard him rap about where he went to school. But I've also noticed that most rappers nowadays seem to be a little more cautious when it comes to fabricating their past. It's not like the 90's where 99% of rappers claimed to be drug dealers, pimps, o.g.'s, etc.

 

[nynicca]

1. already knew pac's history. im from the town and i knew his name wasn't ringing out like that. i respected his revolutionary stance. (then again what rapper you know who at the top, came to the aid of another black male, bust a pig in the ass)

'young black male' , 'trapped' and 'soulja's story" some of his best shit.

2. knew cube went to college and wasn't 'rasied' in the sets, once againe respected revolutionary stance.

3. dre, knew he was a borderline fruit loop, made cool beats. i mean he went from saying he didn't smoke, to being all over the chron..hahah

4. the other couldn't care less.

But im not talking bout their revolutionary stance im talking about that they weren't 100% with their past neither. you might of known pac was a ballerina before he became a gangsta rapper but most of us didn't and if that came out back then it would've hurt him.

 

[nynicca]

The part you're sorely missing is, they played their part and had talent. Cube might not have been a gang banger however, his contribution to Hip Hop wasn't his ability to shoot a gun. It was his ability to WRTIE rhymes and bring attention to situations that were affecting BLACKS across America. Pac and Biggie were simply PAWNS in the game. Hip Hop was shifting away from INTELLIGENCE, BLACK PRIDE, and TRUE MCING etc. They were stil babies while this shift was occuring so, they pretty much had no choice but to assimulate into the Industry practices. Biggies Sold out from day one. Pac had to strong of a Black Background for him to just Roll over like biggie did. So, he was able to do what Cube did. Write Music that touched Blacks across America. Dr. was and is a producer, No more no less. Onyxy stayed tru to their roots. They made SLAM music with Aggresive Lyrics. Everyone knew the back grounds of these Cats. It's new comers like yourself who aint been put on. SO no there has NEVER BEEN any EX CO's who have gone on to rap about being Cocaine King Pins.

Nobody knew about that onyx that they were house dancers with platform shoes most dont even know about that today. And even though only a idiot would think rawse or any rapper was a kingpin in the first place, how does being a co for 18 months when he was 19 and 20 make him a fake? Even though he is but not because of that. is eminem a racist because he said ****** when he was 19? If a person was in jail for selling drugs and his lawyer said he could have not sold drugs because at 19-20 he was a co would you say " well he must be innocent then?

 

[nujerz84]

There was no such thing as the Internet and fans really didnt give a fuck about a rappers personal life outside the music as much as they do now.

 

[jrod44]

I basically said the same thing the other day, about the internet, on that "right now is the realest era ever" post. But really, if you dig hard enough, you could find something embarrassing in anyone's past. Nobody came out the wound with a tech 9 smokin a blunt. And it's like somebody else said about Pac, if he hadn't gone to that fine arts school in Baltimore and did all the reading he did, his music would not have been near as good. He would've been another rapper with a limited vocabulary rapping about the same topics over and over. I remember seeing one of those Beef dvd's where they were trying to make Paul Wall look bad because he went to a Christian school. To me, that might be relevant if Paul Wall tried to come across as a satanic rapper or some shit but otherwise, so what. I've never heard him rap about where he went to school. But I've also noticed that most rappers nowadays seem to be a little more cautious when it comes to fabricating their past. It's not like the 90's where 99% of rappers claimed to be drug dealers, pimps, o.g.'s, etc.

I definitely think, more rappers will br more forthright about their past now. There is basically no way or nowhere to hide, it seems.

 

[5th Letter]

But because the older generation of rappers may have spit it better it makes talking about guns and shooting people okay?

 

[nynicca]

There was no such thing as the Internet and fans really didnt give a fuck about a rappers personal life outside the music as much as they do now.

Your right. i think the problem is to many people worship rappers. i always saw rap as entertainment especially with shit that is so outlandish as a rapping drug kingpin. I'm not gonna get mad if i found eminem didnt really throw a fat bitch down the diving board in school. anybody that takes gangsta rap literally is a idiot

 

[georgia boi]

Your right. i think the problem is to many people worship rappers. i always saw rap as entertainment especially with shit that is so outlandish as a rapping drug kingpin. I'm not gonna get mad if i found eminem didnt really throw a fat bitch down the diving board in school. anybody that takes gangsta rap literally is a idiot

Exactly. It's funny when people live vicariously through these rappers and then get mad when they find out that the rhymes weren't true. The majority of the time in any artform, the artist is basically selling a fantasy, a creation of the imagination, or something that might have been influenced by their real life or their environment. Rarely do you get an artist who does the latter 100% of the time.

 

[sutterkane]

We live in the information age.......You cant hide anything these days, which is good because Anybody who wants to know the truth, can find out.......But in other ways its bad, because people be going to in depth about shit that has nothing to do with the music and it sucks the fun out things.......

The internet, cant live with it, cant kill it

 

[TMonroe]

Even the gangsters and thugs get caught slippin. They get beat up, robbed and clowned just like these rappers. Your street record don't stop you from being human. They embellish their past as well. So these thugs and gangsters aren't what they are blown up to be either. The only reason people go so hard on these rappers, is because they're in front of the public. So people can judge their lives publically.

It doesn't mean they aren't real or any faker than anybody else because they have an education or went to school in their past. None of these street dudes came out their moms holding guns in their baby hands. So to think that these big bad thugs and gangsters were always that way from birth is silly. I'm sure they were raised the same way these rappers were.

Bottom line, these street dudes are nothing but mere human beings at the end of the day. They bleed read and die like we do. They aren't super man or anymore real because they have a criminal record. These rappers are nothing but mere human beings. Who just so happens to be under public scrutiny. People need to stop putting these street thugs and rappers on pedistals.

 

[the_omniscient]

Untrue. Rappers who fabricated their past today still have careers. That didn't fly in the 90s. I remember when Boss admitted in a newspaper that she really wasn't a gangsta and went to a private school. That cost her her career. Meanwhile you have people like 50 Cent and Rick Ross who just flat out lifted real gangsta's identities, everybody knows it beforehand, and they are still able to sell music.

Nowadays all people care about is hot music. A lot of these rappers are fake but nobody cares. Rappers brag about money they don't have, women they don't pull and crimes they don't commit. None of that matters. Just have some catchy lyrics on a hot beat and you can say whatever you want.

 

[mattee c]

In the early days of rap, before N.W.A., Ice T, & The Geto Boys, it wasn't acceptable to rap about crime. It's not that rappers weren't drug dealers/users or robbers or whatever, it's that everybody was doin upbeat party music. Until the late 80's, artists didn't even cuss on records. Labels were scared to put out explicit records because no one had ever done it. But in some ways, I do think rappers today get away with lying about their past moreso than they used to. If Rick Ross had been exposed in the mid 90's, his career would've been over. Look at The Geto Boys for example. Willie D rapped about beating people up. That's real - Will's a golden gloves boxer with a solid record. Scarface really did get put in a mental institution when he was 10. So all his raps about manic-depressive, suicidal, homicidal thoughts - he probably knows what he's talking about. And I've met Bushwick. He really is crazy, that's no act.

 

[mr.getwitcha]

But because the older generation of rappers may have spit it better it makes talking about guns and shooting people okay?

True and them actually spitting it better is just a matter of opinion.

Getwitcha

 

[5th Letter]

True and them actually spitting it better is just a matter of opinion.

Getwitcha

These dudes dont get what I'm trying to say, they get invested in the whole who is real/ who is not real so much, and that's a problem hip hop faces today. Even back in 1988 most of those rappers talking that shit was gonna really do what they say in their bar, but I guess them being better than Rick Ross makes it okay. Rap fans smh.

Why cant y'all listen to the music, they let what these people do in real life affect their enjoyment of the music.

 

[lion_heart]

I really don't understand how Pac's name gets brought up in a thread like this when all you had to do was listen to his interviews and in some of his music and he explains his past. Yall just don't listen and take media shit as face value.

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

I love these hurt feelings threads where the Lifeless nobodies in the real world get E-Homotional over the fact there Idols are Phonies and start pulling the revisionist history shit. Quit catching feelings Kiddies You want to live in fantasy land more power to you but do not try and shit on the real to make yourselves feel better about it...