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What do you mean he didnt do it with his own power?? Thanos destroyed the Universe....he won....there is no other rebuttal.... he was the only person left...no Frank Richards, no Thor, No Living Tribunal, No Eternity, No Galactus...he won....TWICE![/quote]
I think what he meant was Thanos didn't do it without artifacts. As in if Thanos had to fight all of Earth's villains and heroes, the Celestials, Galactus, etc, without the Infinity Gauntlet, he would lose. Thanos briefly fought Galactus without any artifacts and although he got the first lick in, he still cried mercy at the end. Thanos didn't beat the Living Tribunal with the Infinity Gauntlet. Remember during that arc, that first Thanos killed half the population of the universe then took down that coalition of heroes & villains. Then he took down most of the cosmic abstracts before facing Eternity and usurping Eternity's position in the universe. Different from destroying a universe. The Living Tribunal is higher than the Infinity Gauntlet. It wasn't until Thanos attained the Heart of the Infinite(Universe) that he was able to defeat Eternity, Infinity, and the Living Tribunal. Even at that point, Thanos stated that an even higher power urged him to correct an imbalance in the multiverse and thus he reversed everything he did with the Heart of the Infinite. The being he was referring to is TOAA, who is top dog at Marvel. Remember there are quite a few beings in the Marvel's omniverse more powerful than the Infinity Gauntlet but only one trumps the Heart of the Infinite. Adam Warlock proved deft at handling the Infinity Gauntlet and even when he pwned the cosmic abstracts like Thanos,he found out quick that Living Tribunal can easily nullify the Infinity Gauntlet.
What do you mean he didnt do it with his own power?? Thanos destroyed the Universe....he won....there is no other rebuttal.... he was the only person left...no Frank Richards, no Thor, No Living Tribunal, No Eternity, No Galactus...he won....TWICE![/quote]
I think what he meant was Thanos didn't do it without artifacts. As in if Thanos had to fight all of Earth's villains and heroes, the Celestials, Galactus, etc, without the Infinity Gauntlet, he would lose. Thanos briefly fought Galactus without any artifacts and although he got the first lick in, he still cried mercy at the end. Thanos didn't beat the Living Tribunal with the Infinity Gauntlet. Remember during that arc, that first Thanos killed half the population of the universe then took down that coalition of heroes & villains. Then he took down most of the cosmic abstracts before facing Eternity and usurping Eternity's position in the universe. Different from destroying a universe. The Living Tribunal is higher than the Infinity Gauntlet. It wasn't until Thanos attained the Heart of the Infinite(Universe) that he was able to defeat Eternity, Infinity, and the Living Tribunal. Even at that point, Thanos stated that an even higher power urged him to correct an imbalance in the multiverse and thus he reversed everything he did with the Heart of the Infinite. The being he was referring to is TOAA, who is top dog at Marvel. Remember there are quite a few beings in the Marvel's omniverse more powerful than the Infinity Gauntlet but only one trumps the Heart of the Infinite. Adam Warlock proved deft at handling the Infinity Gauntlet and even when he pwned the cosmic abstracts like Thanos,he found out quick that Living Tribunal can easily nullify the Infinity Gauntlet.
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What do you mean he didnt do it with his own power?? Thanos destroyed the Universe....he won....there is no other rebuttal.... he was the only person left...no Frank Richards, no Thor, No Living Tribunal, No Eternity, No Galactus...he won....TWICE![/quote]
I think what he meant was Thanos didn't do it without artifacts. As in if Thanos had to fight all of Earth's villains and heroes, the Celestials, Galactus, etc, without the Infinity Gauntlet, he would lose. Thanos briefly fought Galactus without any artifacts and although he got the first lick in, he still cried mercy at the end. Thanos didn't beat the Living Tribunal with the Infinity Gauntlet. Remember during that arc, that first Thanos killed half the population of the universe then took down that coalition of heroes & villains. Then he took down most of the cosmic abstracts before facing Eternity and usurping Eternity's position in the universe. Different from destroying a universe. The Living Tribunal is higher than the Infinity Gauntlet. It wasn't until Thanos attained the Heart of the Infinite(Universe) that he was able to defeat Eternity, Infinity, and the Living Tribunal. Even at that point, Thanos stated that an even higher power urged him to correct an imbalance in the multiverse and thus he reversed everything he did with the Heart of the Infinite. The being he was referring to is TOAA, who is top dog at Marvel. Remember there are quite a few beings in the Marvel's omniverse more powerful than the Infinity Gauntlet but only one trumps the Heart of the Infinite. Adam Warlock proved deft at handling the Infinity Gauntlet and even when he pwned the cosmic abstracts like Thanos,he found out quick that Living Tribunal can easily nullify the Infinity Gauntlet.
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Thanos gained the artifacts through using his powers. Thanos's intellect, strategic manoeuvring, and his will. He is essentially Batman on a cosmic scale. He intended to destroy the universe...he did...he achieved his ultimate and final goal...of complete and utter domination over the universe.
That TOAA garbage is just Marvel's defacto "God" that they use to apease the religious types.
But he didn't destroy the universe with the IG. U stated he destroyed the universe twice, which he did not do. He destroyed the universe once with the HotI. But then again, Reed Richards destroyed the universe with the Ultimate Nullifer (including Eternity) and recreated it without Abraxas as a threat. Morg, who's not the brightest bulb, managed to scheme his way to the Ultimate Nullifier also. Are you saying that Morg & Reed Richards > Eternity, Infinity, Etc? The Living Tribunal trumps the IG. Regardless of how anyone feels about TOAA, his position is canon. Also remember that the Infinity Gauntlet had no effect on Maelstrom when Maelstrom confronted Thanos with the IG (confirmed as canon too by Marvel's Official Handbook)
The Infinity Gauntlet is über powerful but there are some artifacts and characters more powerful than it, or at the very least unaffected by its effects.
The Infinity Gauntlet is über powerful but there are some artifacts and characters more powerful than it, or at the very least unaffected by its effects.
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What do you mean he didnt do it with his own power?? Thanos destroyed the Universe....he won....there is no other rebuttal.... he was the only person left...no Frank Richards, no Thor, No Living Tribunal, No Eternity, No Galactus...he won....TWICE![/quote]
I think what he meant was Thanos didn't do it without artifacts. As in if Thanos had to fight all of Earth's villains and heroes, the Celestials, Galactus, etc, without the Infinity Gauntlet, he would lose. Thanos briefly fought Galactus without any artifacts and although he got the first lick in, he still cried mercy at the end. Thanos didn't beat the Living Tribunal with the Infinity Gauntlet. Remember during that arc, that first Thanos killed half the population of the universe then took down that coalition of heroes & villains. Then he took down most of the cosmic abstracts before facing Eternity and usurping Eternity's position in the universe. Different from destroying a universe. The Living Tribunal is higher than the Infinity Gauntlet. It wasn't until Thanos attained the Heart of the Infinite(Universe) that he was able to defeat Eternity, Infinity, and the Living Tribunal. Even at that point, Thanos stated that an even higher power urged him to correct an imbalance in the multiverse and thus he reversed everything he did with the Heart of the Infinite. The being he was referring to is TOAA, who is top dog at Marvel. Remember there are quite a few beings in the Marvel's omniverse more powerful than the Infinity Gauntlet but only one trumps the Heart of the Infinite. Adam Warlock proved deft at handling the Infinity Gauntlet and even when he pwned the cosmic abstracts like Thanos,he found out quick that Living Tribunal can easily nullify the Infinity Gauntlet.
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agreed
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I think what he meant was Thanos didn't do it without artifacts. As in if Thanos had to fight all of Earth's villains and heroes, the Celestials, Galactus, etc, without the Infinity Gauntlet, he would lose. Thanos briefly fought Galactus without any artifacts and although he got the first lick in, he still cried mercy at the end. Thanos didn't beat the Living Tribunal with the Infinity Gauntlet. Remember during that arc, that first Thanos killed half the population of the universe then took down that coalition of heroes & villains. Then he took down most of the cosmic abstracts before facing Eternity and usurping Eternity's position in the universe. Different from destroying a universe. The Living Tribunal is higher than the Infinity Gauntlet. It wasn't until Thanos attained the Heart of the Infinite(Universe) that he was able to defeat Eternity, Infinity, and the Living Tribunal. Even at that point, Thanos stated that an even higher power urged him to correct an imbalance in the multiverse and thus he reversed everything he did with the Heart of the Infinite. The being he was referring to is TOAA, who is top dog at Marvel. Remember there are quite a few beings in the Marvel's omniverse more powerful than the Infinity Gauntlet but only one trumps the Heart of the Infinite. Adam Warlock proved deft at handling the Infinity Gauntlet and even when he pwned the cosmic abstracts like Thanos,he found out quick that Living Tribunal can easily nullify the Infinity Gauntlet.
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Thanos gained the artifacts through using his powers. Thanos's intellect, strategic manoeuvring, and his will. He is essentially Batman on a cosmic scale. He intended to destroy the universe...he did...he achieved his ultimate and final goal...of complete and utter domination over the universe.
That TOAA garbage is just Marvel's defacto "God" that they use to apease the religious types.
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anyone can gain the artifacts..or the gems to accomplish what he did..and he didn't destroy the universe in IG
DarkRaiden
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a.mann;4326774 said:
Exact opposite actually. But w/e.
evoljeanyes
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Thor is the GOD! He runs marvel shit. As far as heroes go, bolt, hulk, sentry, and a few others can even match him in battle...
DarkRaiden;4327585 said:
Riiiighhtt...Marvel's own handbook puts his strength at incalculable, he's easily lifted a million tonnes, has easily fought the Hulk to a standstill (while the Hulk kept getting stronger) Thor was restraining himself. He has battled an entire Celestial Host by himself, smashed stars and planets with his bare fists, turned the Sentry into a corpse...Rune King Thor was omniscient and semi-omnipotent.
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rage;4504835 said:
He's also lost to Hulk multiple times, lost to Beta Ray Bill, lost to Thanos, etc. And nothing you named put him in the top 5. There are far more than 5 omnipotents, nonetheless semi-omnipotents
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rage;4508627 said:
So you're using only the strongest version of Thor and no one else? And then deliberately say no abstracts? Of course he'll seem top 5 with all of those restrictions and even then I need proof that he's stronger than Odin, then Doctor Strange(classic), then Dormammu(one that beat Eternity), then Mephisto, then Blackheart, Franklin Richards(who is Galactus level), Mad Jim Jaspers(Universal or Omniversal level threat), Scarlet Witch(Universal or Omniversal level threat), Cyttorak, Onslaught, etc.
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