Is The NY Hip Hop scene stable again?

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5th Letter;c-9942587 said:
buttuh_b;c-9942568 said:
If you got Papoose on your list of 10 hottest rappers in the city, it's not looking good b

For the sake of the argument why not?

He doesn't make music that people want to listen to. Other cities you can name rappers that make good music and are more current
 
buttuh_b;c-9942776 said:
5th Letter;c-9942587 said:
buttuh_b;c-9942568 said:
If you got Papoose on your list of 10 hottest rappers in the city, it's not looking good b

For the sake of the argument why not?

He doesn't make music that people want to listen to. Other cities you can name rappers that make good music and are more current

The bold is a generalized statement. He might not make music that fans of Yachty and Uzi etc likes. But there is an audience that will listen to his music.
 
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5th Letter;c-9942812 said:
buttuh_b;c-9942776 said:
5th Letter;c-9942587 said:
buttuh_b;c-9942568 said:
If you got Papoose on your list of 10 hottest rappers in the city, it's not looking good b

For the sake of the argument why not?

He doesn't make music that people want to listen to. Other cities you can name rappers that make good music and are more current

The bold is a generalized statement. He might not make music that fans of Yachty and Uzi etc likes. But there is an audience that will listen to his music.

Look I listen to and enjoy everything. I can acknowledge it's a time and place for Papoose. I like American Dream album but most people would really have to be in a certain mood to play that. That's music you can really only listen to when you're by yourself. Most people in New York and Jersey don't even like that shit. My point is you're not in a good place when a rapper who people already didn't dig like that when he was at his peak 12 years ago is considered one of the 10 hottest in your city. That means your city is colder than the iceberg that sunk the titantic.

The thing is the NYC scene is bad because most of the music isn't good, no creativity, very stagnant and outside of a couple singles there's nothing that could bring people together that they will enjoy. Like I said there's a few artists like ASAP Rocky, French Montana and Cardi B who are exceptions but even their music isn't on the same level as artists from other cities. Then you got Joey Badass who had a great album and Dave East who can rap and makes good music, nice beats and concepts.

But overall NYC used to dominate and had everything checked off. It's 20 million people in the metro area so population wise they should be doing better than just now having 3 or 4 hot rappers after 10 years of virtually nothing.
 
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buttuh_b;c-9942890 said:
5th Letter;c-9942812 said:
buttuh_b;c-9942776 said:
5th Letter;c-9942587 said:
buttuh_b;c-9942568 said:
If you got Papoose on your list of 10 hottest rappers in the city, it's not looking good b

For the sake of the argument why not?

He doesn't make music that people want to listen to. Other cities you can name rappers that make good music and are more current

The bold is a generalized statement. He might not make music that fans of Yachty and Uzi etc likes. But there is an audience that will listen to his music.

Look I listen to and enjoy everything. I can acknowledge it's a time and place for Papoose. I like American Dream album but most people would really have to be in a certain mood to play that. That's music you can really only listen to when you're by yourself. Most people in New York and Jersey don't even like that shit. My point is you're not in a good place when a rapper who people already didn't dig like that when he was at his peak 12 years ago is considered one of the 10 hottest in your city. That means your city is colder than the iceberg that sunk the titantic.

The thing is the NYC scene is bad because most of the music isn't good, no creativity, very stagnant and outside of a couple singles there's nothing that could bring people together that they will enjoy. Like I said there's a few artists like ASAP Rocky, French Montana and Cardi B who are exceptions but even their music isn't on the same level as artists from other cities. Then you got Joey Badass who had a great album and Dave East who can rap and makes good music, nice beats and concepts.

But overall NYC used to dominate and had everything checked off. It's 20 million people in the metro area so population wise they should be doing better than just now having 3 or 4 hot rappers after 10 years of virtually nothing.

But what if he evolves. Veterans have had second and sometimes 3rd waves in their careers. Not saying Papoose will blow up but you never know.

The problem with the NY scene isn't really about rappers "not making good music". It's about politics, it's about the artists not getting the push. The bs from other regions a decade ago got pushed regardless of whether people liked it or not.
 
New York rap mainstream wise? Copycats... the artform originated from that city and they've lost their identity. Ironical

On the indie or underground tip though, that gutter boom bap sound still kicking (I hope Dave East and Bada$$ can thrive in the industry cos they're both brothas who still have a love for rap bars...)

Are they stable? Looks like the city is still in a tighter grip (as regards authenticity) by the OG'S: niggas who came up in the 90s and to a shorter extent the 80s too.

West Coast currently putting out the best music in HipHop and they do NOT imitate. It's still G-Funk on a lot of their records
 
rip.dilla;c-9943095 said:
West Coast currently putting out the best music in HipHop and they do NOT imitate. It's still G-Funk on a lot of their records

Best music period. Not just hip hop.
 
5th Letter;c-9943023 said:
buttuh_b;c-9942890 said:
5th Letter;c-9942812 said:
buttuh_b;c-9942776 said:
5th Letter;c-9942587 said:
buttuh_b;c-9942568 said:
If you got Papoose on your list of 10 hottest rappers in the city, it's not looking good b

For the sake of the argument why not?

He doesn't make music that people want to listen to. Other cities you can name rappers that make good music and are more current

The bold is a generalized statement. He might not make music that fans of Yachty and Uzi etc likes. But there is an audience that will listen to his music.

Look I listen to and enjoy everything. I can acknowledge it's a time and place for Papoose. I like American Dream album but most people would really have to be in a certain mood to play that. That's music you can really only listen to when you're by yourself. Most people in New York and Jersey don't even like that shit. My point is you're not in a good place when a rapper who people already didn't dig like that when he was at his peak 12 years ago is considered one of the 10 hottest in your city. That means your city is colder than the iceberg that sunk the titantic.

The thing is the NYC scene is bad because most of the music isn't good, no creativity, very stagnant and outside of a couple singles there's nothing that could bring people together that they will enjoy. Like I said there's a few artists like ASAP Rocky, French Montana and Cardi B who are exceptions but even their music isn't on the same level as artists from other cities. Then you got Joey Badass who had a great album and Dave East who can rap and makes good music, nice beats and concepts.

But overall NYC used to dominate and had everything checked off. It's 20 million people in the metro area so population wise they should be doing better than just now having 3 or 4 hot rappers after 10 years of virtually nothing.

But what if he evolves. Veterans have had second and sometimes 3rd waves in their careers. Not saying Papoose will blow up but you never know.

The problem with the NY scene isn't really about rappers "not making good music". It's about politics, it's about the artists not getting the push. The bs from other regions a decade ago got pushed regardless of whether people liked it or not.

Dog, you don't get it... the music ain't hot like that for the most part. I know good music when I hear it.
 
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buttuh_b;c-9943109 said:
rip.dilla;c-9943095 said:
West Coast currently putting out the best music in HipHop and they do NOT imitate. It's still G-Funk on a lot of their records

Best music period. Not just hip hop.

The album in my AVI is still my album of 2017 until further notice...
 
rip.dilla;c-9943141 said:
buttuh_b;c-9943109 said:
rip.dilla;c-9943095 said:
West Coast currently putting out the best music in HipHop and they do NOT imitate. It's still G-Funk on a lot of their records

Best music period. Not just hip hop.

The album in my AVI is still my album of 2017 until further notice...

Hell yea Thundercat elevated and I didn't even think he could. Saw him perform at Roots Picnic in June and he killed it.. going to see him again at Afropunk in Brooklyn next week.

Any NYC posters that got an issue with me can run the fade while Raphael Saadiq (another Cali legend) performs.. :)
 
Listening to Law Library 8... this shit hard..

I'm still about to turn this into a Cali appreciation thread in a minute tho
 
Beta;c-9943189 said:
Emm holla came through with the spam

Good looking lol

Btw you ever heard of perrion?

Nigga from Harlem? Yeah..

#HBTL nigga! There aint a new rapper out that rap better than Don Q right now.. That is a fact!

 

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