Is terrorism an effective way to advance one cause?

[It's Not Cool Bruh]

look how they treat women
most likely its conform to islam or die
christians are more forgiving

bruh.....you gotta pick up a history book sometimes, generalizing statements are never any good whether they're positive or negative

 

[ItzGravitation]

well maybe those arent real muslims... but your christian counterparts are overthere killing real muslims.. people that aint got much to do with nothin.. would a real christian be okay with that??

i'm not OK with it but God works in mysterious ways and maybe America is that Way

 

[fiat_money]

RIP Thread.

 

[rusty shackleford]

Word, I've watched many of those videos, they're usually observations followed by biased conjecture to reach a desired conclusion. An example of this is the "Jet fuel can't burn hot enough to melt steel, so 9/11 must be an inside job." argument.

what about NORAD saying they were told to ignore reports of hijacked commercial airliners, that that days events were only a drill.. just as they did the day the trains in london blew..the city of london had hired a firm to measure their reaction to a terrorist event involving bombs in the subway.. & then as the drill was under way, whatta ya know, real bombs hit the subway system.. so understandably shook, the guy who owns the firm went directly to the media saying the coincidence was too much to be just that.. hell, a month before the "attacks" a golfer's private plane went off course & was intercepted within minutes by f-15s.. so an hour & a half shouldn't have been an issue... but somehow..

ever heard of operation northwoods? almost 50 years ago, our government came up with plans to hijack our own commercial aircraft with american citizens aboard & crash them into buildings [sound familiar?] as a pretext for a conflict with cuba.. the documents also discussed flying an empty commercial airliner over cuba & shooting it down in a ploy to blame them..

believe what you want.. but the facts speak for themselves..

 

[ItzGravitation]

what about NORAD saying they were told to ignore reports of hijacked commercial airliners, that that days events were only a drill.. just as they did the day the trains in london blew..the city of london had hired a firm to measure their reaction to a terrorist event involving bombs in the subway.. & then as the drill was under way, whatta ya know, real bombs hit the subway system.. so understandably shook, the guy who owns the firm went directly to the media saying the coincidence was too much to be just that.. hell, a month before the "attacks" a golfer's private plane went off course & was intercepted within minutes by f-15s.. so an hour & a half shouldn't have been an issue... but somehow..

ever heard of operation northwoods? almost 50 years ago, our government came up with plans to hijack our own commercial aircraft with american citizens aboard & crash them into buildings [sound familiar?] as a pretext for a conflict with cuba.. the documents also discussed flying an empty commercial airliner over cuba & shooting it down in a ploy to blame them..

believe what you want.. but the facts speak for themselves..

conspiracy theories suck

 

[rusty shackleford]

conspiracy theories suck

they do... but what seperates the facts i listed from them is the documented proof.

i was watchin' tv the morning 9/11 took place.. a news reporter said that a passport was found on the ground that belonged to a known terror suspect & that's how they knew it was Al Qaeda.. nevermind the fact that they all flew under aliases..

to believe this as true, you'd have to be able to explain how a plastic & paper passport would make it out of the initial impact area completely impervious to the intense heat of the explosion..

as a side note: columbia university has seismographs that picked up an explosion comperable to a small nuclear explosion at the moment each building started to fall.. that backs up eye witness accounts from the basement where the explosions melted the skin off of people close by..

the only conspiracy here is amongst the ones telling their selves our government wouldn't do this to its own people.. [nevermind the fact that Roosevelt had plenty of a heads up to stop pearl harbor but knew the attack would drive the american public into a revenge frenzy thus allowing our entry into the war & the history channle completely backs this up..]

 

[ItzGravitation]

they do... but what seperates the facts i listed from them is the documented proof.

i was watchin' tv the morning 9/11 took place.. a news reporter said that a passport was found on the ground that belonged to a known terror suspect & that's how they knew it was Al Qaeda.. nevermind the fact that they all flew under aliases..

to believe this as true, you'd have to be able to explain how a plastic & paper passport would make it out of the initial impact area completely impervious to the intense heat of the explosion..

as a side note: columbia university has seismographs that picked up an explosion comperable to a small nuclear explosion at the moment each building started to fall.. that backs up eye witness accounts from the basement where the explosions melted the skin off of people close by..

lol

shit happens.

i hope you're prepared for the next one

 

[rusty shackleford]

lol

shit happens.

i hope you're prepared for the next one

riiiiiiiight.. who can REALLY be prepared for expendability?

the only conspiracy here is amongst the ones telling their selves our government wouldn't do this to its own people.. [nevermind the fact that Roosevelt had plenty of a heads up to stop pearl harbor but knew the attack would drive the american public into a revenge frenzy thus allowing our entry into the war & the history channel completely backs this up..]

so lets see...

aids: government funded

9/11: government funded

pearl harbor: simply allowed to happen

The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment: government funded

yep, as the evidence shows, we're incredibly expendable..

 

[ItzGravitation]

riiiiiiiight.. who can REALLY be prepared for expendability?

the only conspiracy here is amongst the ones telling their selves our government wouldn't do this to its own people.. [nevermind the fact that Roosevelt had plenty of a heads up to stop pearl harbor but knew the attack would drive the american public into a revenge frenzy thus allowing our entry into the war & the history channel completely backs this up..]

so lets see...

aids: government funded

9/11: government funded

pearl harbor: simply allowed to happen

The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment: government funded

yep, as the evidence shows, we're incredibly expendable..

sucks to be expendable

glad i'm in the position i'm in

 

[rusty shackleford]

sucks to be expendable

glad i'm in the position i'm in

fascinating but... wait, so too bad for everyone else, huh?

that's mighty white of you..

 

[ItzGravitation]

fascinating but... wait, so too bad for everyone else, huh?

that's mighty white of you..

really?

too bad i'm black and inexpendable

 

[rusty shackleford]

really?

too bad i'm black and inexpendable

its not meant literally.. that's whatchu say when someone says some shit you'd expect to come out of the mouth of the typical elitist white person..

so where is your hiddy hole? or can you expose it's "position.."

 

[ItzGravitation]

its not meant literally.. that's whatchu say when someone says some shit you'd expect to come out of the mouth of the typical elitist white person..

so where is your hiddy hole? or can you expose it's "position.."

lol hiddy hole?

i'm front line with this movement

roll or get rolled on

i'll be face first with the next "911"

 

[one_manshow]

This thread got derailed by a bunch of idiots who use CNN as a legit source.

 

[Swiffness!]

I mean Muslim extremist seem to be getting their point across. Everyone is fearful of going on t.v and talking bad about them. Companies refuse to allow pictures of Mohammad. Fearful people are allowing their rights to be taken away for security. It seems they are going about and archiving what they want.

Al Qaeda's goal is to galvanize the world's Muslims into overthrowing their gov'ts and establishing a new Islamic Empire w/ a new Caliph. They're not any closer to that goal than they were 20 years ago.

For the most part, I think terrorism does nothing but give the ruling government an excuse for oppression and state sanctioned violence.

Just ask Dick Cheney....

 

[rusty shackleford]

lol hiddy hole?

i'm front line with this movement

roll or get rolled on

i'll be face first with the next "911"

but why fight an unwinnable fight? the time to stand up has long passed.. & the last time a 9/11 happened [as far as a death toll] was pearl harbor.. it could be a hot ass minute.. people in this country scare so easily..

 

[Swiffness!]

aids: government funded
9/11: government funded
pearl harbor: simply allowed to happen
The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment: government funded

AIDS: no evidence, you can make a stronger case for the CIA running drugs into inner cities
9/11: Bush organized the thousands of people needed to fake an attack and none of them snitched? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
Pearl Harbor: There can be an argument made for this. If FDR knew and let it happen, he did the right thing. America had no interest in fighting Japan & the Nazis before Pearl Harbor smh
The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment: Historical fact. Conducted by the United States Public Health Service, founded in 1798 and currently led by Howard Kyongju Koh.

 

[Swiffness!]

This thread got derailed by a bunch of idiots who use Alex Jones as a legit source.

fixed..........

 

[rusty shackleford]

AIDS: no evidence

oh rlly? the freedom of information act says differently.. [& i believe they flooded our streets with cocain but for the record, i never saw a house bill for the appropriation of 10 million in u.s. tax dollars to invent crack.]

 

[fiat_money]

what about NORAD saying they were told to ignore reports of hijacked commercial airliners, that that days events were only a drill...... hell, a month before the "attacks" a golfer's private plane went off course & was intercepted within minutes by f-15s.. so an hour & a half shouldn't have been an issue... but somehow..

ever heard of operation northwoods? almost 50 years ago, our government came up with plans to hijack our own commercial aircraft with american citizens aboard & crash them into buildings [sound familiar?] as a pretext for a conflict with cuba.. the documents also discussed flying an empty commercial airliner over cuba & shooting it down in a ploy to blame them...

Do you have proof that NORAD was told to stand down? If so, do you have proof that this wasn't an error in communicating the threat, or a genuine mistaking of the threat as a drill? Assuming the observation that NORAD was told to stand down is true, how does this immediately lead to the conclusion that 9/11 was an inside job?

Also, as far as I know, each of the planes hijacked were crashed within 40 minutes of their hijacking. So what is the "1 & a half" hour statement in reference to?

I have heard of Operation Northwoods, I've also heard of the many other plans it entailed such as:

• Staging Cuban soldiers as attacking U.S. bases.
• Blowing up a U.S. ships/drones and blaming Cuba.
• Faking pro-communist Cuban terror acts.
• Making it look like Cuba is plotting with other countries.
• Making it look like Cuban fighter jets were harassing the U.S.
• Making it look like Cuban has shot down U.S. planes.

Due to the myriad of ideas, it seems like it was just a formal brainstorming. The first long-range jetliners started operating in the late 1950's (~1958), less than 5 years before the Operation Northwoods proposal. It's quite conceivable someone in the government at the time was able to imagine that these relatively new transport-vehicles could potentially be used as weapons.

You've shown observations, but you've failed to show how they automatically lead directly to the conclusion that 9/11 was in inside job.

You have helped bolster one of my previous statements though:

Word, I've watched many of those videos, they're usually observations followed by biased conjecture to reach a desired conclusion...